Why is Japan warning against US agency debt?

[Marilyn Elam]

From the telegraph's article, it seems to have the similar concern with you, but just closely read the 2nd paragraph above. Even with my poor English skill, it is not about the war just between Japan and your country.

Why did we all ignore the Greenspan's ambiguous warning against the problem?

it is hard to heed a jargon disguised warning...but goes far in a clever defense for him to get out of his responsiblity at a later date, when asked why he did not provide an approiate warning when he knew what was coming, or a double agent higher authority ordered him to remain silent.

won't know for certain until full disclosure is released....but someone is going accept responsiblity, and should probably consider hari kari as an escape from the degree of dishonor and humilation accociated with it.

This time perhaps we will reward those "partially responsible" for the "situation" if they assist in leading to human(s) fully responsible for these possibly unauthorized traitorous acts.

We will reward them, and deal their punishment to the fully responsible party.

Justice?

 

[tada]

Yeah, it's really old news that the US has crippling debt, and a lot of other countries already hate us for it.

List of countries by current account balance - Wikipedia

It's funny how there are a lot of first-world countries near the bottom.

 

[Marilyn Elam]

Good bye.....Japan is now responsible for the US's fiscal problems.

perhaps they can prove they did provide the required warning and it was ignored, and they went to the proper lengths to do so before surrendering and letting it come to this.

but to then shout "fire" in the crowded theater?

that act betrays certain intentions and useful motivations in itself.

words and explanation are not even needed to see the true picture.

friends don't do that to one another, unless they are fiegning friendship to gain access to your 6 o'clock so they can cut your throat in safety.

I know a set-up when I see one, as i am quite good at devising them as well.

I invite someone to prove me wrong.

 

[Marilyn Elam]

perhaps they can prove they did provide the required warning and it was ignored, and they went to the proper lengths to do so before surrendering and letting it come to this.
but to then shout "fire" in the crowded theater?
that act betrays certain intentions and useful motivations in itself.
words and explanation are not even needed to see the true picture.
friends don't do that to one another, unless they are fiegning friendship to gain access to your 6 o'clock so they can cut your throat in safety.
I know a set-up when I see one, as i am quite good at devising them as well.
I invite someone to prove me wrong.

I have a few things to attend to, I will return shortly. feel free to discuss these matters among yourselves and plan your questions accordingly

ciao baby

 

[Pachipro]

Actually and factually, I believe it was Pachipro with his comments on another thread in this subject as well as the NY Times that started feeding this fear.

But Ben Bernanke, Henry Paulson, and I, Ocean Dude, have been doing our best to calm the financial markets. We will not rest until our job is finished.
Hysterical threads like these do NOT help. :auch:

Actually, the fear is very real and it is Hanky Panky Paulson and Bernanke who are leading us down the road of financial ruin by continuing to pump about $500 million/day into the economy with nothing to back it up. This will only lead to hyper-inflation which is already at 12%-13% in the US today based on figures released by the government last week.

What can Japan do in this situation? They have already helped out the US all they could and are already the largest holder of US debt to the tune of $592.2 Billion! Plus they already hold an additional few hundred million in bad mortgages through Fannie and Freddie which are in trouble and hold over $5 TRILLION in mortgages.

If Fannie and Freddie go under the shareholders and bondholders lose everything! If foreigners lose over $1 Trillion they will probably stop funding the $700 Billion current account deficit. Therefore, it will be the US taxpayers who will end up paying for this financial mis-management.

To say that Japan is not doing anything to help the US and warning against US agency debt is very ignorant and mis-informed. How long can one expect the Japanese people to continue helping out the US? Until they're broke also?

 

[KirinMan]

To say that Japan is not doing anything to help the US and warning against US agency debt is very ignorant and mis-informed. How long can one expect the Japanese people to continue helping out the US? Until they're broke also?

It's a complicated relationship that's for sure, however I personally feel that Japan should be working towards evening it's position with the US rather than just seemingly bowing to demands from Washington.

Particularly in the area of defense. Sure it benefits noone to be a fear monger and it is up to the US to clean up it's financial house, but if Japan has the US by the cojones like it sounds here, they should try to leverage it put them more on equal footing.

 

[Marilyn Elam]

From the telegraph's article, it seems to have the similar concern with you, but just closely read the 2nd paragraph above. Even with my poor English skill, it is not about the war just between Japan and your country.

Why did we all ignore the Greenspan's ambiguous warning against the problem?

Also, your very perceptive, I was rushing and missed the point you made on the second paragraph. I see your point, however, with the US and Japan combined and cooperating? It would be a grave mistake on their part, if we survive the attack.

Perhaps Japan is simply been holding the largest part of our combined gold reserves, and a trap to see who will try and jump and attack when they think they have us down enough, once we verify their true motives and intentions, we can deal with them with the upmost severity......without any regrets I should add.

Thanks for mentioning that.

 

[Marilyn Elam]

Actually and factually, I believe it was Pachipro with his comments on another thread in this subject as well as the NY Times that started feeding this fear.
But Ben Bernanke, Henry Paulson, and I, Ocean Dude, have been doing our best to calm the financial markets. We will not rest until our job is finished.
Hysterical threads like these do NOT help. :auch:

closing ones eyes to looming threats, in the hopes that they will disappear is not a victory or solution to a problem, just ask our leaders.

It allows those bent on destroying you, perhaps even traitorous high officials, acting as double agents more time to increase their attack and/or fiegned stupidity to increased levels to please their handlers and succeed in their hidden mission.

Plus if you helped, your unknown hidden attackers bent on your demise, will escape and be free to plot and plan a stronger counter-attack at their earliest opportunity.

May I suggest you read "The Art of War", by Sun Tzu, and pray to Buddah to give you a gift of increased comprehension so that you may digest it in it's purest and greatest extent possible.

The you will fully understand, and find a whole new level of existance as i have, and if you are wise, you will advise others to do the same thing so that they may join you.

 

[nice gaijin]

Forgive the Off-topicness, but why on Earth would anyone pray to Buddha?

 

[Grandpa Frank]

In case you wonder why.

MS. Elam has been here before and banned as Salivating Dog/General Lee/Oryoku Maru. Probably will return again too soon.

Uncle Frank

:bikkuri:

 

[tada]

I move for IP ban on him/her.

 

[JimmySeal]

It's unlikely that this person has a static IP, and banning a range of IPs has the potential to punish people who were unfortunate enough to have the same ISP as these wiseguys.

 

[caster51]

Why is Japan warning against US agency debt?

When the current American economy worsens in the principle of the market,
.......
It begins to hear of the sound of ammunition boots.....

US needs a war

 

[hsakakibara1]

The US is in a fiscal mess. Hopefully, the housing crisis will ease next year but most financials are wading in tit-deep red ink. I live in the US and must say that the standard of living is artificially high (most people live according to their credit card limits and NOT according to their means). Well, that party is coming to a close and we will see a huge slide to poverty in the next 10 years or so. As it is despite lower housing prices many cannot afford a home. I expect a lot more homeless as well. Really bad.

The trouble is that most TV shows and movies don't depict THIS America, but the America that most people WANT to see; rich, affluent, and sexually free. Of course this is the case for some but not for the majority, especially the rich and affluent bits. So many still think that is the way things are supposed to be, while in fact they are not.

Don't get me wrong. I do like it here despite my rantings and it pains me to see this place going down. But this is reality and therefore I am considering returning to Japan because despite my hatred for the LDP and many of the problems that Japan has, it is still a more stable country.

 

[Pachipro]

The US is in a fiscal mess. Hopefully, the housing crisis will ease next year but most financials are wading in tit-deep red ink. I live in the US and must say that the standard of living is artificially high (most people live according to their credit card limits and NOT according to their means). Well, that party is coming to a close and we will see a huge slide to poverty in the next 10 years or so. As it is despite lower housing prices many cannot afford a home. I expect a lot more homeless as well. Really bad.

Well said and you are quite correct there, but you would never know it by the manipulation of the stock markets, foreign currencies, and gold and silver these past few days, but things in the US are far, far worse than the media will have you believe. Inflation and unemployment are at highs not seen in many years, forclosures are at a record high, and the average American has over $8,000 in credit card debt and the stock market goes up! It goes against all fundamental economic thinking. Many are upside down on their homes, unside down on their cars and are just a paycheck or two away from bankruptcy. Easy credit is harder and harder to come by and many are getting by on their credit cards.

With the anathesia of easy available credit, Americans were able to live way above their means these past several years. Now the taps have been shut off and the chickens are coming home to roost.

We are just beginning to see the beginning of the meltdown I believe, as even Alt-A mortgages and prime mortgages are beginning to show signs of non-payment, then will come the credit-card meltdown.

How long can the US depend on Japan, China, and other countries to keep bailing them out? I believe they will soon give up and may just stop buying treasuries unless there is another major war or something. Georgia anyone?

 

[hsakakibara1]

Well said and you are quite correct there, but you would never know it by the manipulation of the stock markets, foreign currencies, and gold and silver these past few days, but things in the US are far, far worse than the media will have you believe. Inflation and unemployment are at highs not seen in many years, forclosures are at a record high, and the average American has over $8,000 in credit card debt and the stock market goes up! It goes against all fundamental economic thinking. Many are upside down on their homes, unside down on their cars and are just a paycheck or two away from bankruptcy. Easy credit is harder and harder to come by and many are getting by on their credit cards.

With the anathesia of easy available credit, Americans were able to live way above their means these past several years. Now the taps have been shut off and the chickens are coming home to roost.

We are just beginning to see the beginning of the meltdown I believe, as even Alt-A mortgages and prime mortgages are beginning to show signs of non-payment, then will come the credit-card meltdown.

How long can the US depend on Japan, China, and other countries to keep bailing them out? I believe they will soon give up and may just stop buying treasuries unless there is another major war or something. Georgia anyone?

Well said. You know America well. And it is frightening. That is one BIG reason I am planning to return to Japan. It is getting scary here.

 

[caster51]

It begins to hear of the sound of ammunition boots.....

US needs a war

It has come in good timing..