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The socalled COVID vacinne fails the definition of a vacinne. Vacinated people are still dying from COVID.
Why are you being so obtuse?

Most vaccines are neither 100% protective nor permanent--and if one is that is wonderful.

Way long ago, early 70s, I was overseas and got a cholera shot/booster every four months. And in that situation it was not because cholera had evolved--some new strain--it was because efficacy of a shot dropped over time.

Spin the clock forward to about '84, and I caught typhoid fever--I'd been vaccinated for that (and many other things) when I went into the army (even before the above). But that was out of date, and I should have gotten a booster.

Pneumovax, for pneumonia--actually for quite a few different strains of that--needs to be redone every five years.

Flu (just like covid ;) ) evolves continually, which is why most people get a flu shot every year. And, surprise surprise, flu is another vaccination that doesn't last forever--tho highly unlikely, even if the same strain comes back two years in a row, it'd be really wise to get another shot.

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I got my 5th shot (3rd booster) in November, never any side effects apart from slight soreness at the injection site for a day.
 
BNT162b2 Vaccine‐Associated Myo/Pericarditis in Adolescents: A Stratified Risk‐Benefit Analysis showing the cardiac dangers of a COVID vacine as against t I am happy to take fully tested proven vacines- had one as an adult and my son had all that he possibly . The COVID "vacine"s have not properly. People who generally favour vacines but don''t believe in the safety of COVID VACS don't have any problem with vacinologists or epidemiologists- that is mostly the medical, government and university establishment that have a problem. Constitutional Rights Law Centre - Canada
 
At least we're not talking about some high school student in gifu who was licking/touching all the stuff in a スシロー, and posting videos of himself doing that...!
 
At least we're not talking about some high school student in gifu who was licking/touching all the stuff in a スシロー, and posting videos of himself doing that...!

I was tempted to post the video, but I wasn't sure whether to file it under "Crime" or "News". :LOL:
 
Well, don't post the video--too much potential liability!

Apparently there's some blowback--people saying, perhaps ominously, that they know the high school or who he actually is.
 
The socalled COVID vacinne fails the definition of a vacinne. Vacinated people are still dying from COVID.

Here is the definition according to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.


1: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease: such as
A: an antigenic preparation of a typically inactivated or attenuated (see attenuated sense 2) pathogenic agent (such as a bacterium or virus) or one of its components or products (such as a protein or toxin)
B: a preparation of genetic material (such as a strand of synthesized messenger RNA) that is used by the cells of the body to produce an antigenic substance (such as a fragment of virus spike protein)
2: a preparation or immunotherapy that is used to stimulate the body's immune response against noninfectious substances, agents, or diseases

Maybe its just that you don't know what the real definition is? Perhaps when you are looking for definitions you should check a dictionary, as that is where words are defined.
 
BNT162b2 Vaccine‐Associated Myo/Pericarditis in Adolescents: A Stratified Risk‐Benefit Analysis showing the cardiac dangers of a COVID vacine as against t I am happy to take fully tested proven vacines- had one as an adult and my son had all that he possibly . The COVID "vacine"s have not properly. People who generally favour vacines but don''t believe in the safety of COVID VACS don't have any problem with vacinologists or epidemiologists- that is mostly the medical, government and university establishment that have a problem. Constitutional Rights Law Centre - Canada
The article you linked reported a risk of myocarditis from the vaccine in adolescents as 162 or 93 per million.
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Compare to this study which puts the risk of myocarditis from the virus itself at 450 to 601 cases per million. In other words, Covid itself is more risky than the vaccine. (And more than likely a kid who reacts to the vaccine will react to the virus itself).
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To me this line of logic is like saying because seat belts injure people in car crashes we shouldn't wear a seat belts.
 
The article you linked reported a risk of myocarditis from the vaccine in adolescents as 162 or 93 per million.
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Compare to this study which puts the risk of myocarditis from the virus itself at 450 to 601 cases per million. In other words, Covid itself is more risky than the vaccine. (And more than likely a kid who reacts to the vaccine will react to the virus itself).
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To me this line of logic is like saying because seat belts injure people in car crashes we shouldn't wear a seat belts.
I wasn't around when seatbelt laws were first introduced, but people totally fought against them. It's no consolation, but that mentality hasn't gone anywhere


 
I wasn't around when seatbelt laws were first introduced, but people totally fought against them. It's no consolation, but that mentality hasn't gone anywhere
Yes, in some cases the pendulum swung back to towards "free-dumb." Not for seatbelts I don't think but for things like helmet laws like the one that was repealed in Michigan.
 
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I guess it's human nature to dislike others telling us what to do. My generation was raised to think any government that controls us must be communist. Seems a lot of people would rather take a chance at death or injury for themselves rather than be told what to do.
 
I guess it's human nature to dislike others telling us what to do. My generation was raised to think any government that controls us must be communist. Seems a lot of people would rather take a chance at death or injury for themselves rather than be told what to do.
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I think that gets to the heart of a lot of it, no one wants a nanny state, even one that's just giving reasonable advice. People dislike being told what to do so much, they'll do things that put themself in obvious peril just to show how free and ungovernable they are. A lot of folks have died as a direct result of that behavior, but even though it's their decision to make, of course they didn't expect the worst possible outcome would happen. So many flex their freedom and get away with it... until they don't.

It's tragic all the same.
 
I think that part of the problem is that you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. Tell people not to do something that could be dangerous, or make a law against doing it, and people get angry, complain, and try to do it anyway because the government shouldn't be telling them what they can and can't do. Don't tell people not to do it and they do and get hurt/killed or hurt/kill other people doing it and people get angry, complain, and blame the government for not doing something about it.

I partially blame lawyers for this by pushing stupid lawsuits. People seem to have increasingly less feelings of personal responsibility for their , poor/stupid, decisions. They keep getting pushed the narrative that it must have been someone else's fault, even when it was their own.

Just to be clear, I am not against lawsuits in general. Just the stupid ones.
 
I think that gets to the heart of a lot of it, no one wants a nanny state, even one that's just giving reasonable advice. People dislike being told what to do so much, they'll do things that put themself in obvious peril just to show how free and ungovernable they are. A lot of folks have died as a direct result of that behavior, but even though it's their decision to make, of course they didn't expect the worst possible outcome would happen. So many flex their freedom and get away with it... until they don't.

It's tragic all the same.
The question is, at what point does one's personal behavior affect society to the point where individual behavior must be curbed.
Not getting vaccinated, not isolating and not wearing masks ended up killing many other people in the Covid case. But how many is too many?
The argument for helmet laws is that bashing in your brain costs society -- it has to pay for your injuries, potential lifetime health costs for brain damage, or raising your parentless kids. Every law restricting individual behavior (and that's what almost all laws do) is a balance.
 
Vacinnation by COVID vacine doesn't stop transmission- Merck and Pfizer didn't test for its ability to do that and proved to be ineffetive.
I think that part of the problem is that you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. Tell people not to do something that could be dangerous, or make a law against doing it, and people get angry, complain, and try to do it anyway because the government shouldn't be telling them what they can and can't do. Don't tell people not to do it and they do and get hurt/killed or hurt/kill other people doing it and people get angry, complain, and blame the government for not doing something about it.

I partially blame lawyers for this by pushing stupid lawsuits. People seem to have increasingly less feelings of personal responsibility for their , poor/stupid, decisions. They keep getting pushed the narrative that it must have been someone else's fault, even when it was their own.

Just to be clear, I am not against lawsuits in general. Just the stupid ones.
I blame judges for operating a corrupt incompetent system that is unable to give a reasonable assessment of the merits of case. I never understand why responsibility of the court at heads of the judiciary and exectutive and legislative.
 
Vacinnation by COVID vacine doesn't stop transmission
Have you checked to see if that's the same for other diseases vaccinations? What did you find?

Eg, does a BCG prevent people from transmitting/carrying TB?

Or MMR?

Or yellow fever?

Or pneumonia?

Or polio?

Or smallpox?

Or typhoid?

Or plague?

..and so on.
 

Have you checked to see if that's the same for other diseases vaccinations? What did you find?

Eg, does a BCG prevent people from transmitting/carrying TB?

Or MMR?

Or yellow fever?

Or pneumonia?

Or polio?

Or smallpox?

Or typhoid?

Or plague?

..and so on.
Yes because your immune system kills the infection. Top cardiologists have serious concerns about the COVID vaccine.
 
Yes because your immune system kills the infection. Top cardiologists have serious concerns about the COVID vaccine.
Do you really lack that much critical thinking? Take a look at this list of people who have died.

I bet MOST of these people drank coffee in the days, often hours, before they died. Perhaps somebody should look into that shouldn't they? :unsure:
 


Yes because your immune system kills the infection. Top cardiologists have serious concerns about the COVID vaccine.

Who are these top cardiologists, and what are their concerns that we haven't addressed in the numerous papers cited in this thread?

Maybe you can make such a vague appeal to authority if you're out drinking with your buddies, but we're all sitting here expecting more than empty rhetoric.
 
I partially blame lawyers for this by pushing stupid lawsuits. People seem to have increasingly less feelings of personal responsibility for their , poor/stupid, decisions. They keep getting pushed the narrative that it must have been someone else's fault, even when it was their own.

Just to be clear, I am not against lawsuits in general. Just the stupid ones.
As an aside, I think many Americans share this general dislike of lawyers and frivolous lawsuits, but that public opinion itself was strongly influenced by a public framing of certain lawsuits as being frivolous in an attempt in the 80's and 90's to tighten up tort law to make it easier for corporations to get away with stuff. There's an excellent documentary about one of the most famous cases, called Hot Coffee, that shines a light on just how intentionally manipulated the public opinion was on that case. It's really wild to think back about how my own perception of the case at the time was completely molded by a coordinated media campaign.

The whole film is available here:
 
 
The new normal is to no longer wait for any actual evidence to come to light before claims are made, and since everything is plausible to someone out there every claim will become irrefutable, and if it goes viral: immortal. Fake news stories can never be scrubbed from public memory. For some that's a warning about the importance of getting your facts straight, and for others it's a challenge to see how ridiculous a story you can get others to repeat.

One of the very first people to get publicly vaccinated became the subject of conspiracy theories and harassed into withdrawing from social media. I found this podcast while researching some cryptic posts I had seen on Facebook about her (showing that the theories persist years later). Spoiler alert, Tiffany is alive and well, as confirmed by her family and friends and neighbors, and she is still active on Pinterest but no longer uses any other social media. She was going to sit for an interview but decided that she was tired of trying to prove to people who don't really care about her that she exists. To sum it up for those who don't have the time, the point is that disproving a bad faith assertion is a losing battle, because the goal posts will just move no matter how hard you try. That doesn't mean the truth isn't worth pursuing, but the truth doesn't reside in the opinions of strangers online.

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Something I realized which both horrifies me and also makes the whole situation easier to understand... Just think of the internet as a creative writing seminar: our various news sources give us a prompt of some sort, and everyone puts their own spin on it to fit the prompt into their own world view.

This presents a real challenge; is it better to engage trolls in the hopes that it will bring someone out there closer to realizing they're engaging in fantasy, or disengage and ignore? How do you separate out bad faith actors from true believers?
 
Something I realized which both horrifies me and also makes the whole situation easier to understand... Just think of the internet as a creative writing seminar: our various news sources give us a prompt of some sort, and everyone puts their own spin on it to fit the prompt into their own world view.
But it's even worse because social media giants make more money by promoting divisive misinformation. It's not in their business interests to eliminate hate speech, vaccine misinformation, etc.
 
As an aside, I think many Americans share this general dislike of lawyers and frivolous lawsuits, but that public opinion itself was strongly influenced by a public framing of certain lawsuits as being frivolous in an attempt in the 80's and 90's to tighten up tort law to make it easier for corporations to get away with stuff. There's an excellent documentary about one of the most famous cases, called Hot Coffee, that shines a light on just how intentionally manipulated the public opinion was on that case. It's really wild to think back about how my own perception of the case at the time was completely molded by a coordinated media campaign.

The whole film is available here:

I am actually aware of that one. Unfortunately all you have to do is look around when out and about to see advertisements from lawyers and law firms trying to entice you to sue someone to get your rightly deserved compensation. As mentioned, not all lawsuits are frivolous but there are a lot of them and the only thing they accomplish is making a lot of lawyers a lot of money. :(

I know some decent lawyers and even they complain about those types.
 
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