South park makers fluent in Japanese. Or not?

[KrazyKat]

I'm not going to look through each several 50 minute lessons. However, I can tell you, it's near the very beginnning, and they say "kore o" is used as a request to ask for something.
It's probably in one of the first 5.

I think you should. It would be very good practice to review the basics.


kono modifies a noun. ie kono enpitu=this pencil
kore replaces is it ie kore=this

Its not about different situations or anything. Please review the lessons on these.

 

[KrazyKat]

Yes, I made a typo again. "mimasen" means "to not generally watch"
South park wo yoku mimasen.
I don't watch south park often.

thats not the one I was talking about. two more guesses.

 

[The7thSamurai]

I do know what it means.
mite would mean (watching it now), and "mimasen" is non past, so I don't watch it often.

"Mite" does NOT mean "watching it now". "Mite iru" means "watching it now". You forgot the darn "IRU" again. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT FORGET THE "IRU". And "mimasen" doesn't mean "I don't watch often". Why did you think "often"? It simply means "don't watch". PERIOD.

 

[KrazyKat]

"Mite" does NOT mean "watching it now". "Mite iru" means "watching it now". You forgot the darn "IRU" again. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT FORGET THE "IRU". And "mimasen" doesn't mean "I don't watch often". Why did you think "often"? It simply means "don't watch". PERIOD.

Ah seems like bucko got it for you.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

"Mite" does NOT mean "watching it now". "Mite iru" means "watching it now". You forgot the darn "IRU" again. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT FORGET THE "IRU". And "mimasen" doesn't mean "I don't watch often". Why did you think "often"? It simply means "don't watch". PERIOD.

What about mimasen deshita?

I thought that meant "don't watch."

South Parkを見ている。Informal
SouthParkを見ています。Polite

Thanks.

 

[MeAndroo]

What about mimasen deshita?
I thought that meant "don't watch."
South Parkを見ている。Informal
SouthParkを見ています。Polite
Thanks.

Mimasendeshita is "didn't watch"

 

[GoldCoinLover]

Mimasendeshita is "didn't watch"

Oh it's PAST NEGATIVE.

 

[MeAndroo]

Oh it's PAST NEGATIVE.

Yes. And if I were you, I'd get this down before attempting any more -te forms.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

Yes. And if I were you, I'd get this down before attempting any more -te forms.

PAST NEGATIVE
Hon wo yonde imasen deshita.
I do not read books.
Hon wo yonde imasen.
Present negative
I am not reading the book.

I keep getting them confused.Would you mind help please?

 

[MeAndroo]

For the polite past negative, you use the past tense form of a verb and add deshita.

 

[KrazyKat]

For the polite past negative, you use the past tense form of a verb and add deshita.

thats realy going to confuse him now

Androo means the negative of a verb and add deshita.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

For the polite past negative, you use the past tense form of a verb and add deshita.

ikimasen deshita

I didn't go

Like that?

 

[MeAndroo]

thats realy going to confuse him now
Androo means the negative of a verb and add deshita.

悪い悪い！Thanks for catching that Kat.
Yes GCL, like that.

 

[WHEATTHlNS]

PAST NEGATIVE
Hon wo yonde imasen deshita.
I do not read books.

amari hon wo yomimasen.

What you typed is "I didnt read the book".

What is confusing to me, is that you got the second part right - the Present Negative, but didnt apply that to the first part - as if you think its two different phrases, and not a single phrase with different tense.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

悪い悪い！Thanks for catching that Kat.
Yes GCL, like that.

Although I understand that it means like this:
Kore wa empitsu desu.
This is a pen.
Kono pen empitsu desu .
This is a pen.
What is the subtle differences in these 2?
Kono acts to modify the noun, or to replace it.
For example: Kono pen wo akete desu.
This pen is red. (Answers "What color is it?)
Kore states what something is.
Apparently, ga is when something new is being introduced and puts emphasis ont he subject. "wa" is when you already talked about it.
I get them confused, hehe.

DS wa sugoi desu.

The DS is cool.

DS wa sugoi desu ne?

Ne asks for confirmation.

The DS is cool, isn't it?

 

[GoldCoinLover]

amari hon wo yomimasen.
What you typed is "I didnt read the book".
What is confusing to me, is that you got the second part right - the Present Negative, but didnt apply that to the first part - as if you think its two different phrases, and not a single phrase with different tense.

That's because yomimasen and yomimasen deshita confsues me.

yomimasen means "I generally don't read books" "I don't read books"

Sono hon wa(wo?) yomimasen .
I do not read this book.?

Sono hon wo yomimasen.
I didn't read the book.

Sono hon wo yomimasen deshita
I never read books.

Ugh, it confuses me.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

amari hon wo yomimasen.
What you typed is "I didnt read the book".
What is confusing to me, is that you got the second part right - the Present Negative, but didnt apply that to the first part - as if you think its two different phrases, and not a single phrase with different tense.

Hon wo yonde imasen.
Yonde is a ~te/~de form, so it means "presently reading" when added to iru or imasu. (See, I didn't forget this time!)
So yonde imasen (imasen is present negative) Present negative confuses me.
What does amari mean?

Present negative
I am not reading the book.


So with "imasen" it means "am not reading" I gotta remember that.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

Nagashimaさんは、



いいえ、いいえ。No, no. 誤解はですよ。There is not a new PSP. (Present negative)
Atarashii (New)
PSP wo atarashii dewa arimasen.
There is not a new PSP.

Damn, I suck at this.

 

[doinkies]

Although I understand that it means like this:
Kore wa emptentsu desu.
This is a pen.
Kono pen empentesu desu .
This is a pen.
What is the suble differences in these 2?
Kono acts to modify the noun, or to replace it.
For example: Kono pen wo akete desu.
This pen is red. (Answers "What color is it?)
Kore states what something is.
Apparently, ga is when something new is being introduced and puts empahsis ont he subject. "wa" is when you already talked about it.
I get them confused, hehe.
DS wa sugoi desu.
The DS is cool.
DS wa sugoi desu ne?
Ne asks for confirmation.
The DS is cool, isn't it?

The correct forms of those sentences:

これは鉛筆（えんぴつ）です。(and 鉛筆 means "pencil", not "pen".)
これはペンです。
このペンは赤い（あかい）です。
Since the "pen" in that last sentence is the subject you don't use を, but は.

Also, すごい is closer to "awesome" or "great" than "cool". Cool (in the slang way) is かっこいい.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

The correct forms of those sentences:
これは鉛筆（えんぴつ）です。(and 鉛筆 means "pencil", not "pen".)
これはペンです。
このペンは赤い（あかい）です。
Since the "pen" in that last sentence is the subject you don't use を, but は.
Also, すごい is closer to "awesome" or "great" than "cool". Cool (in the slang way) is かっこいい.

So if pen is not the subject (and something else was) I'd use wo?

Got it.

かっこいい.[/
Gakkoii

Is that right?

 

[GoldCoinLover]

大日本がですよ！



It is great japan!

This is great japan.

Should I use kore or sono? Ugh

Sono dai nippon ga desu yo.

Sore wa nippon ga desu yo.

Dare wa?
何方ですか？

Which one(of the two? is it?

 

[KrazyKat]

Nagashimaさんは、
いいえ、いいえ。No, no. 誤解はですよ。There is not a new PSP. (Present negative)
Atarashii (New)
PSP wo atarashii dewa arimasen.
There is not a new PSP.
Damn, I suck at this.

new psp= atarashii psp

no need for wo - there is no object here.

there is not= arimasen

try again.

 

[doinkies]

Also, here's a quick review of how to conjugate verbs, using 見る（みる） as an example:
ドインクを見ます。(I see a doink.)
ドインクを見ません。(I do not see a doink.)
ドインクを見ませんでした。(I did not see a doink.)
ドインクを見ました。 (I saw a doink.)
ドインクを見ています。(I am seeing a doink.)
ドインクを見ていません。(I am not seeing a doink.)
In all these sentences, since the doink is the thing (object) that is being seen, you use を, the object marker, not は, which is the subject marker. The doink isn't the subject of these sentences.
And かっこいい is kakkoii, not gakkoii.
For "Japan is great!" you would probably say 「日本はすごいです！」 There is no need to use kore/sore/are or kono/sono/ano in this sentence.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

new psp= atarashii psp
no need for wo - there is no object here.
there is not= arimasen
try again.

Why don't I use dewa arimasen?
Oh, is t past negative?

Arimasen is present negative?

new psp= atarashii psp

no need for wo - there is no object here.

there is not= arimasen

try again.

OKay.

新しい（あたらしい）PSPがありません。


Should I use ga? It's supposed to put emphasis on the subject, the PSP.

 

[WHEATTHlNS]

Kono acts to modify the noun, or to replace it.

Kono modifies the noun (in a sense) - it doesnt not replace the noun since kono/sono/ano cannot appear on their own. Its the same as saying "This (kore) is great" (at writing), "This (kono) pen is great" (at writing).

Kore states what something is.

Kore is an ambigous noun that on its own cannot say what something is. Of course "Kore ha enpitsu desu" depends on the "enpitsu desu" to tell what "kore" is.

PSP wo atarashii dewa arimasen.

"Wo" marks a noun that a verb is performed on. Atarashii is not a verb. It is an adjective. "Atarashii PSP ga arimasen" would be "There isnt (somewhere I'm assuming) a new PSP". "Watashi ha atarashi PSP ga mottekimasen" would be better, "I dont have a new PSP".