is it all about the visual?

[Horizon]

Ok.

They HAVE diminished its musical quality... happy now?? ☝

I wouldn't know. I don't know what songs are on each album actually. However, everything I've listened to, I have liked at least a little bit and I'm horribly picky, so ehhh...

 

[hebiichigo]

It was their 5 days concert thing. They had a day for every album they had out. Playing old favorites and the like.

Just for the record, I wasn't talking about 5 Days.. I was replying as to why they don't play the old songs anymore usually. I've never seen the 5 Days thing so I can't comment. Once again not sure why people are quoting me

 

[SaKeVi]

I wouldn't know. I don't know what songs are on each album actually. However, everything I've listened to, I have liked at least a little bit and I'm horribly picky, so ehhh...

that's interesting...

I had a picky friend too, and she preferred BackStreetBoys instead of Ahmad Jamal trio I hope you not to be this kind of picky

See you!

 

[Horizon]

I have no idea who Ahmad Jamal Trio is or whatever...☝ But very few things are worst than the Backstreet Boys...-shudders-

 

[SaKeVi]

He is one of the best jazz musicians ever.

But what can we do... :?

 

[furan]

Ahmad Jamal Trio...... i think i saw them live.......


or... i wanted to but didn't get the chance *is confused*

 

[Horizon]

He is one of the best jazz musicians ever.

But what can we do... :?

I'm not into Jazz. However, I'd probably listen to him for as long as my life continues if it came between him and someone like the Backstreet Boys...-shudders again-

 

[Kaidan]

You go by a vibe? A feeling? I'm not even going to comment on this one really... ☝

When you're in a good live, it's not like watching a video. There's excitement. You can feel it from the audience. You can feel it from the band. I know I'm sounding like a pathetically loopy ****, but there's honestly a vibe you feel at a good concert. That wasn't there for the 5days. There was just a feeling of not wanting to be there that was felt by all. But hay, if concert going for you is like watching it on dvd, then sux for you. <3

Ohhh...I misspelled it by one, single letter! lyk ohmigawd! 'Tis the completely and utter end of the world! The horsemen are coming! Run for your very souls!

It wouldn't bother me so much if every idiot with their thumb up their butt didn't do it. It causes problems sometimes, such as another forum I'm on which has a user named "Kaiden" who ends up getting mail meant for me. I understand illiteracy is rampant, but we shouldn't all just settle for complacency.

And I don't seem to understand why people always go all like "get over it" when there is nothing to get over. I don't particularly care much to say the ultimate, very least, although good try anyway!

If you didn't particularly care much, why are you making such a stink about it. Are we trying to be contrary here or just non sequitur?

 

[Kaidan]

Just for the record, I wasn't talking about 5 Days.. I was replying as to why they don't play the old songs anymore usually. I've never seen the 5 Days thing so I can't comment. Once again not sure why people are quoting me

Ah, I see. I just quoted you as I thought you were saying that in reference to what I was talking about. XD

 

[Horizon]

When you're in a good live, it's not like watching a video. There's excitement. You can feel it from the audience. You can feel it from the band. I know I'm sounding like a pathetically loopy ****, but there's honestly a vibe you feel at a good concert. That wasn't there for the 5days. There was just a feeling of not wanting to be there that was felt by all. But hay, if concert going for you is like watching it on dvd, then sux for you. <3

Perhaps then, they had another reason for it? I'm not saying that's the case, however, it's not particularly right to just assume things like that. Now, if every single live they now perform is like that then, perhaps, your accusations would have a bit more to go on. However, if you're only going by one live...

It wouldn't bother me so much if every idiot with their thumb up their butt didn't do it. It causes problems sometimes, such as another forum I'm on which has a user named "Kaiden" who ends up getting mail meant for me. I understand illiteracy is rampant, but we shouldn't all just settle for complacency.

Oh...I see. I did see "E" though for some reason... :?

If you didn't particularly care much, why are you making such a stink about it. Are we trying to be contrary here or just non sequitur?

Because this is a discussion and I'm just expressing my opinion like everyone else is pretty much?

 

[Kaidan]

Perhaps then, they had another reason for it? I'm not saying that's the case, however, it's not particularly right to just assume things like that. Now, if every single live they now perform is like that then, perhaps, your accusations would have a bit more to go on. However, if you're only going by one live...

I was referring to their not wanting to play old songs when I said that. If they ever played any of their old songs any more, I would've thought it was a fluke, too. But the fact is that they don't. And their newer songs are lacking quite a bit of the old innovation they used to show. Even when they were mostly a Kuroyume copy band.

Because this is a discussion and I'm just expressing my opinion like everyone else is pretty much?

Then you DO care what's said in this thread. And you WERE just trying to be contrary.

 

[Horizon]

Oh...Well, again, they could have just changed to the point where they no longer think it's appropriate for them to perform those songs anymore? Again, you can't really know why they do something...

And...Errr...☝ Whatever you say then...☝

 

[mizerable_d]

And yet I again I must ask 'and'? I have an extremely 'hard' (as you put it) opinion and I simply adore expressing them and backing up my opinion and I'm honest as well, brutally so. And, yet, still, I'm not going around, dissing a band just 'cause they changed, not to mention, again, talking as if I actually know what they're going through and what thoughts are racing through their little heads!

i dont think she is dissing them. if she was, i'd be trying my hardest to kick her ***.

 

[Horizon]

Ahhh...But it seems quite a bit like that's exactly what she's doing...

 

[mizerable_d]

i think she just have a negative opinion of Diru's new stuff. she's not dissing them as in "omg they suck so bad. they have no talent, they are ugly, and stupid and..." the likes. also she used to be a fan.

 

[Kinsao]

ummm... what about those people here who saw Diru in Paris in July. What do they think about their live performance now? From their set list I think I remember seeing they played some of their older stuff? (is that right?) :? Do you think their skill level has gone down, or not? How was the atmosphere you got from the live?

I feel like I can't really get in on this discussion much because I don't have enough of their stuff to really compare... I have quite a lot of songs (nearly all of which I like), but usually I have no clue which album they are from or which order it comes in the discography - I'm hopeless at stuff like that.

EDIT: I found something Mana said in an interview of Moi dix Mois, I thought it was interesting in relation to this thread, he says:

"There isn't only the music. There is also the visual side, our universe. It窶冱 really sad if they only like the music. If you for example, look at the CD's picture you share this universe that you just can't download. I wish that people could love our entire universe."

For me personally, the music always comes first. But Mana also has a point. And, it's interesting to me to get a slant on the way a musician sees it...

 

[mizerable_d]

ummm... what about those people here who saw Diru in Paris in July. What do they think about their live performance now? From their set list I think I remember seeing they played some of their older stuff? (is that right?) :? Do you think their skill level has gone down, or not? How was the atmosphere you got from the live?

what i believe is that their skills with their insturments and voices have gone up, but their composing skills have gone down. or they are just not using their compsing skills properly.

EDIT: I found something Mana said in an interview of Moi dix Mois, I thought it was interesting in relation to this thread, he says:

"There isn't only the music. There is also the visual side, our universe. It窶冱 really sad if they only like the music. If you for example, look at the CD's picture you share this universe that you just can't download. I wish that people could love our entire universe."

For me personally, the music always comes first. But Mana also has a point. And, it's interesting to me to get a slant on the way a musician sees it...

visuals is always a bonus. i mean if you go see a live show, the visuals keep your eyes interested and the music keeps your ears interested. i like that.

 

[Horizon]

what i believe is that their skills with their insturments and voices have gone up, but their composing skills have gone down. or they are just not using their compsing skills properly.

Or maybe, just maybe, they're doing what they wanna do? lyk ohmigawd!

 

[mizerable_d]

Or maybe, just maybe, they're doing what they wanna do? lyk ohmigawd!

thats what i meant by them trying to sell to America. see a lot of western numetal lack serious composing. they are following along so the lame numetal kids can head bang to it.

Edit: whats with that last part...

 

[Horizon]

They could be, yes...Or, again, maybe it's just how they want to do it.

 

[mizerable_d]

could be. *goes off to a corner to cry* i guess i'll always have Gauze and Macabre... OR they COULD make their new album really kick ***. but from the sound of Clever Sleazoid, it's going to be one of those albums again.

 

[Horizon]

Who knows...Perhaps they're saving up everything for something really amazing, ne, ne?

 

[mizerable_d]

Who knows...Perhaps they're saving up everything for something really amazing, ne, ne?

Horizon i heart you! you always make me feel better about stuff! <333

 

[Dollporn]

I wasn't in Paris, but I was in Berlin. I'll agree that Dirus skills have gone up but their creativity has gone down.
I don't see at all how Withering sounds like Vulgar, but I don hear how Withering sounds like other things(What I mean is I don't think this album is as unique as the earlier ones).
They played almost all of Vulgar at the concert and there was a very good feeling in the audience(Thankfully it was a standing concert!). But later I can't shake the fear that this might feel as a routine to the band and in any way not as special as it was to the audience.
I can also understand people being being a bit dissapointed in Diru. I like Withering, I do, but it's like they're tipping off in the opposite direction of my tastes(Anyway if that's what they want to do they should, only I probably won't be listening to them anymore).
I feel I sound like I hate Diru, I don't! They're my favourite band! I'm just a bit sad I might not like their new music.
I have to say it's very true about nobody starting to diss them untill they changed their image.
I think maybe they just found themselves at a point where they didn't feel well dressing up flashy anymore, I mean they're around 30 now.
And if you look at it, it seems they IMAGEWISE are doing what they like. Kyo still does quite a visual act, Toshiya does the fashoin thing, Kaoru does the suit, because that's what he's into.

 

[mizerable_d]

I wasn't in Paris, but I was in Berlin. I'll agree that Dirus skills have gone up but their creativity has gone down.
I don't see at all how Withering sounds like Vulgar, but I don hear how Withering sounds like other things(What I mean is I don't think this album is as unique as the earlier ones).
They played almost all of Vulgar at the concert and there was a very good feeling in the audience(Thankfully it was a standing concert!). But later I can't shake the fear that this might feel as a routine to the band and in any way not as special as it was to the audience.
I can also understand people being being a bit dissapointed in Diru. I like Withering, I do, but it's like they're tipping off in the opposite direction of my tastes(Anyway if that's what they want to do they should, only I probably won't be listening to them anymore).
I feel I sound like I hate Diru, I don't! They're my favourite band! I'm just a bit sad I might not like their new music.
I have to say it's very true about nobody starting to diss them untill they changed their image.
I think maybe they just found themselves at a point where they didn't feel well dressing up flashy anymore, I mean they're around 30 now.
And if you look at it, it seems they IMAGEWISE are doing what they like. Kyo still does quite a visual act, Toshiya does the fashoin thing, Kaoru does the suit, because that's what he's into.

don't worry you don't sound like you hate Diru. i might sound like it but NO. they are god.