Why is PM Abe visiting The Yasukuni shrine?

[caster55]

Germany didn't shrine Hitler and other Nazi criminals, and they banned all Nazi related symbols? What about Japan? When are they ever going to ban the Rising Sun flag? Wait they are still using in in their Navy.

And you wonder why the world is so angry at Japan?

what did Nazi do?
Nazi's flag was Nazi party's flag
rising sun flag is a Japanse navy's flag

 

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Was Hideki Tojo, Who Saved the Jews, the ﾂ"Hitler of Asiaﾂ"?

China is spreading propaganda campaigns against Japan throughout the world to paint the Japanese as the ﾂ"Nazis of today.ﾂ" Their propaganda activities have intensified since Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe visited the Yasukuni Shrine at the end of last year.

The Chinese ambassador to Israel contributed an article to the local English newspaper, saying, ﾂ"Hideki Tojo was the Hitler of Asia.ﾂ" He wrote that it was wrong for Prime Minister Abe to visit Yasukuni Shrine that honors the war dead including ﾂ"Class A war criminalsﾂ"such as former Prime Minister Tojo.

US major media joined those leveling this criticism. At the beginning of March, the New York Times called Prime Minister Abe a nationalist, stating that he is trying to whitewash the history of the war.

Behind this, there is the vague but commonly held assumption that Hideki Tojo was a Hitler-like dictator who committed something akin to the Holocaust by Nazi Germany. But is it true?



Hideki Tojo Saved the Lives of 20,000 Jewish Refugees

Tojo actually saved many Jews from being massacred, but this fact is little known in the world.

The discrimination against the Jews began shortly after the Nazi Party took power in 1933, and grew in intensity around 1938. In the latter half of that year, the attacks on Jewish businesses and synagogues spread throughout Germany, and some millions of Jews fled the country.

At the time, only a few countries were actively taking in Jewish refugees, and Shanghai, the city that the Army of Imperial Japan virtually occupied, was the only place in the world where Jews could enter without a visa. In Mach of that year, the Jewish refugees flocked in the freezing cold to Otpor, the terminal of the Trans-Siberian Railway, to escape to Shanghai. Manchuria, where Japanese troops were stationed, was near Otpor and they first sought entrance to Manchuria.

As Japan had entered into the ﾂ"Anti-Communist Pactﾂ" with Germany to counter a threat from the Soviet Union, there were calls for further careful argument within the government. Pro-German groups were especially strong in the army. However, as many Jews were freezing to death, Kiichiro Higuchi, major general and commander of the Harbin Special Branch of the Kwantung army, decided they should be helped and allowed their transit into Japan. According to one estimate, some 20,000 people were saved, and many of them headed to Japan and Shanghai.

This provoked much anger on the German side, and Foreign Minister Ribbentrop sought punishment for Higuchi claiming that his act thwarted the plan and ideal of Hitler.

Hideki Tojo, the Chief of staff of the Kwantung Army and Higuchi's then superior, spurned this demand by saying, ﾂ"it's the right thing to do from a humanitarian point of view.ﾂ" A few months later, Tojo brushed off the calls for punishment from within the army, and transferred Higuchi to the higher post of the second director of General Staff Headquarters.

After the war, Higuchi's name was engraved in the ﾂ"Golden Book,ﾂ" the book-shaped golden monument that inscribes the names of people who have contributed to the founding of Israel. This was done on the recommendation of the representatives for the Jews living in the Far East, but Tojo's name should also have been inscribed because it was he who gave the formal permission to the rescue of Jewish refugees.



Tojo Paved the Way for the Government's Decision to Shelter Jews

At the time, both America and Britain imposed a restriction on Jewish immigrants, and both countries sometimes engaged in inhuman acts such as shooting at boats carrying Jewish refugees who barely escaped with their lives.

Under these types of circumstances, Japan officially opened their doors to these displaced Jewish peoples. In December 1938, top-level ministers such as the Prime Minister, foreign minister, finance minister, army minister, and navy minister met at The Five Minister's Conference to discuss how to deal with the question of Jewish refugees. (The Five Ministers' Conference) They decided on a policy to protect Jewish refugees, because the expulsion of the Jews went against racial equality that Japan had advocated for years. It was nine months after the Jewish refugees asked Japan for help at the Otpor station. At that point in time, no other country practiced a policy of non-discrimination against the Jews.

It was also Tojo who played an important role in this government decision. About one year before the Five Minister's Conference, January 1938, the Kwantung army set a policy to shelter Jewish refugees. The policy declared that under the spirit of universal brotherhood (Hakkou Ichiu), the Japanese Army would never discriminate against Jews but would accept and embrace them. In the midst of intensifying persecution by Nazis, the Japanese Army declared that any Jews entering and residing in Japan, China, and Manchuria would be treated the same way as brothers and sisters.

Tojo was the one responsible for making the final decision. The rescue of the Jews by Japan would have been impossible without Tojo's compassionate and humane decision.



Shanghai Was Considered ﾂ"Paradiseﾂ" by the Jews

Under the Japanese policy, the International Settlement of Shanghai was inundated with some thirty thousand Jews. However, the Nazi's persecution of Jews extended to Shanghai, and in 1942 when Japan went to war with the United States, Reichsfuhrer-SS Himmler, aide to Hitler, sent SS colonel Meisinger over to Japan. The proposals he presented to the Japanese government renewed their awareness of gruesomeness of the Holocaust.

Meisinger's proposals for the ﾂ"extermination of Jewsﾂ" were to include: (1) Putting them on a disabled ship and leaving them to die of starvation in the East China Sea; (2) work them to death at a salt mine; or (3) create a concentration camp at the mouth of the Yangtze River and conduct live-body experiments.

Since the Japanese government had decided on a policy to prohibit discrimination against Jews, Meisinger's demand was unacceptable by any measure. The government warned the Jews in Shanghai about the immediate danger, while at the same time determining to ensure the safety of the Jews by all means. This was the reason that Shanghai Ghetto (the Restricted Sector for Stateless Refugees) was established.

Ghettos established in Nazi-occupied areas were directly connected to concentration camps, but in the ghetto created by Japan, temporary passes were issued to work so people could freely come and go out of the ghetto during the day and had nothing at all remotely to do with forced labor. There was no forced labor.

For this reason, after the war, some Jewish refugees in Shanghai recalled, ﾂ"Shanghai was paradise, compared to the Nazi-occupied nations where Jews were massacred.

It was because Tojo adopted the policy to shelter the Jewish refugees that this haven for the Jews existed amidst the appalling persecution elsewhere.



The Government and Sugihara as Japan's ﾂ"Schindlerﾂ"

Regarding Japanese who saved the Jews, Chiune Sugihara, a vice-consul of the Japanese Consulate in Lithuania, is well known and honored around the world for his heroics in rescuing Jews.

In July of 1940, Lithuania was occupied by the Soviet Union, and the Jews who had escaped from Poland to Lithuania began to be persecuted again. The Japanese Foreign Ministry required that transit visas be issued only to those who had visas to a third destination to exit Japan and had money enough to travel and stay in Japan. Sugihara disobeyed these rules and issued visas for over 6,000 refugees, saving their lives.

After the war, Sugihara was granted the honor of ﾂ"Righteous Among the Nations, by the government of Israeli, and was praised as theﾂ" Japanese Schindler.

But actually, Japanese consulates in other cities in Europe also disavowed the rules and Japanese immigration officers too ﾂ"looked the other wayﾂ" in an effort to save Jewish lives.

This does not diminish the value of Sugiharas courageous and humanitarian act of issuing the visas that saved human lives, but it is also worth noting the little known policy of the Japanese government of treating Jews as family which was thoroughly ingrained in government personnel. Indeed, the Japanese government at the time acted much like ﾂ"Schindlerﾂ" to find creative ways around Nazi policy.



Japan Also Suffered Racial Discrimination

Behind all of this was Japan's own experience of suffering racial discrimination.

Japan opened the country to the word in the middle of the 19th century, when most Asian and African countries lost their independence and became colonized by the West. Japan modernized the nation to prevent it from being occupied by the West, and in the Russo-Japanese War, it defeated Russia in its attempts to take over the Far East. Indeed Japan was the first nation to push back the colonial aggression of a white power.

However, this gave rise to the ﾂ"Yellow Terrorﾂ", and the expulsion of Japanese immigrants subsequently took place in the United States and other countries. The American media agitated people by saying ﾂ"the Japanese could attack at any moment. The Japanese immigrants in California would serve as a bridgehead for their country.ﾂ" Japanese children were expelled from elementary schools and Japanese immigrants were prohibited from purchasing land.

After the Depression, Britain, the United States, France and other nations formed the block economic zone, and the Japanese had to worry about how to survive. What was worse, with the embargo imposed by the US and other countries on valuable resources such as oil, Japan was forced to go to war with the United States.

In 1919 after the First World War, the Japanese delegation to the Versailles Peace Conference proposed adding the racial equality clause in the Covenant of the League of Nations. A majority approved the proposal, but the Chairman, US President Woodrow Wilson, overturned the decision, insisting that a unanimous vote be required on such an important issue. Indeed, Japan had advocated the ideal of racial equality for years.

When the Japanese delegation stopped in New York on its way to Paris, the leaders of an African American civil rights organization in the US asked the delegation for a meeting. They handed the delegation a petition asking them to work to rid the world of all racial discrimination and prejudice.
For black people in the US, the Japanese delegation, not their own President, seemed their last hope for ending the racial discrimination they endured.

As the proposal from Japan was rejected by the US President, black people started riots throughout the US, causing tens of thousands of casualties. These racial riots spread to Egypt, India, and Palestine as well.

One American Senator at the time fearing the global spread of the anti-racial movement said,ﾂ"If we gave racial equality to Asians, it would threaten the survival of the nation and Western civilization itself may crumble.ﾂ"

Indeed, the world before the war was based on racial discrimination, and that was exactly what Japan was fighting against.



The Term ﾂ"Hakko Ichiuﾂ" Means Universal Brotherhood

The concept of Hakko Ichiu contained in the policy adopted by Tojo to save the Jewish refugees was misinterpreted after the war as the ideology that justified aggression. However, this was Japan's ideal of the universal brotherhood and was also considered the spirit of racial equality at the Tokyo Trials as well.

Originally, the first Emperor Jimmu stated this phrase in the imperial rescript at the time of his ascension. The statement means, ﾂ"I shall cover the eight directions and make them abode.ﾂ" This became the philosophy upon which Japan was founded.

The Jews who were saved by Japan understood this as well. At the Conference convened in December 1939 by Jews living in the Far East, they expressed their appreciation to Japan for adhering to the national policy of racial equality based on ﾂ"Hakkou Ichiuﾂ" and sheltering Jewish refugees.

In July of 1940, amid worsening relations with the United States and Britain, the concept of Hakko Ichiu, or the spirit of racial equality, was formally contained in the white paper titled ﾂ"Fundamental National Policyﾂ" and literally became ﾂ"national policyﾂ" of Japan. In modern terms, it means: ﾂ"The aim of Japan's national policy is the establishment of world peace in conformity with the very spirit on which our nation was founded. Under the spirit of racial equality, we will create a new order in East Asia by uniting Japan, Manchuria, and China.ﾂ"

This concept was also reflected in the Greater East Asia Conference held in November of 1943. The conference was attended by leaders from Asian countries that had gained independence after the Imperial Japanese army had expelled the colonial powers.
The Greater East Asia joint declaration announced that, ﾂ"East Asian countries shall deepen relations with the nations of the world, eliminate racial discrimination, nurture culture well, proceed to liberate resources and contribute to the development of the world.ﾂ"

It was probably Emperor Showa who had understood most deeply about the ﾂ"spirit of Hakko Ichiu.ﾂ"At the imperial staff conference in September of 1941, when Japan could not prevent the war with the United States, Emperor Showa read the poem composed by Emperor Meiji. The poem is as follows;ﾂ"I wonder why there is trouble, even though all the countries overseas in all directions are considered to be brothers and sisters in the world.ﾂ" He then proclaimed thatﾂ"I wish to manifest the Meiji emperor's love for peace.ﾂ"

Tojo and other Ministers felt the same as they listened to him solemnly. All of them were sought a world free of racial discrimination, a world where universal humanity prevailed.



ﾂ"Class A War Criminalsﾂ"such as Yosuke Matsuoka, Seishiro Itagaki and Iwane Matsui Worked Together to Save Jews

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Japanese people welcomed Jewish refugees at Kobe by providing food to them. (Photos cited from Rabbi Marvin Tokayer's book titled Japan-Made in Judea)

For this reason, it was not only Tojo who saved the Jews. Other Japanese leaders who were condemned by China asﾂ"Class A war criminalsﾂ" along with Tojo worked to save Jewish refugees.

Former Foreign Minister Yosuke Matsuoka who led the Tripartite Pact between Japan, Germany, and Italy may have been a politician who lost his perspective, but he was second to none in protecting the Jews.

In the Otpor incident, Matsuoka, who was the president of the Manchurian Railway, ran special trains to Harbin 900 km away. When he was Foreign Minister, he met with Jewish leaders and said to them ﾂ"I am responsible for allying with the Fuhrer, Hitler, but I have never said that Hitler's anti-Semitic policy will be carried out in Japan. This is not a personal opinion, but the opinion of the Japanese government.ﾂ"

The role of the former Army Minister Seishiro Itagaki was also instrumental and contributed to disavowing Hitler and saving Jews.

At the Five Minister's Conference in December of 1938, where Japan decided that it would not discriminate against Jews, it was Itagaki who made the proposal. Itagaki said at the meeting,ﾂ"Japan is a nation that values universal brotherhood (Hakko Ichiu). We shall not discriminate against a particular ethnic group, and the Jews are no exception.ﾂ" He made that pronouncement despite the threats of Hitler.

The ﾂ"Tokyo Trialsﾂ" were supposed to be the Japanese equivalent of the Nuremberg Trials. However they lacked the justice exhibited at Nuremberg. In reality the outcomes were predestined. Unlike Nuremberg, where former Nazis who had perpetrated genocide against the Jews were tried, the Tokyo trials lacked witnesses and credible testimony. Assumedﾂ"Class A war criminalsﾂ"who were accused ofﾂ"crimes against peace, were executed without any judicial impartiality. Indeed the Japanese effort to save tens of thousand of Jews was never acknowledged, witnesses were not heard, and men were condemned based on expedience and hate rather than justice.



The Japanese Army Protected the Jews, but ﾂ"Massacred the Chineseﾂ"?

It was in January 1938 that Tojo made the protection of Jews a national policy. According to China, the ﾂ"Nanking Massacreﾂ" happened a month before that.

This raises a simple question as to whether the Japanese army really massacred 300,000 Chinese people while at the same time saving the lives of Jews in keeping with the spirit of racial equality. China claims that when the Imperial Japanese army entered the city of Nanking, the leader of the troops issued orders to kill civilians indiscriminately, and that the soldiers carried out the orders. It is hard to believe this was the same Japanese army.

Before advancing into Nanking, General Ishine Matsui, who was convicted a Class A war criminal for committing the crime of the massacre in Nanking and was executed, commanded his soldiers to adhere rigidly to military discipline and that those who conducted illegal activities would be severely punished. He made sure that the Chinese soldiers, who lost the will to fight, and civilians, would be treated with the same spirit of tolerance and mercy.

With the fall of Nanking, more than one hundred Japanese and Western reporters and photographers accompanied the Japanese troops, but there was no eyewitness report of a massacre. The New York Times reported in detail the moves of the Japanese troops, but they reported only based upon secondhand information that there were many civilian corpses on the streets. After the war, the reporters who were vetted in Nanking said that they never witnessed a massacre or heard of one from the soldiers either.

Indeed, press conferences were held twice to interview General Matsui who returned to Shanghai right after the Nanking occupation, but nobody questioned him about a massacre.

The troops of the Chinese National Party that abandoned and fled the capital of Nanking gave as many as 300 press conferences before and after the fall of Nanking, but they had never mentioned the atrocity allegedly conducted by the Japanese.



General Matsui Made Sure that Citizens in Nanking Would Be Treated with Tolerance and Mercy

According to the findings by many researchers after the war, the ﾂ"massacreﾂ" was actually the mopping-up operation conducted by the Japanese Army, because many of the Chinese soldiers stripped civilians of their clothing in an attempt to blend in and began to use illegal guerrilla strategy. Guerrilla fighters cannot be treated as captives under international law, and the Chinese soldiers who were executed numbered in the thousands.
This situation is similar to the one wherein the US forces had to continue to conduct its mopping-up operation against the armed insurgents in Iraq even after the Iraq war ended in 2003.

On the other hand, according to the articles written by reporters inside and outside of Nanking, right after the Japanese occupation of the city, order in the city was certainly restored. The Japanese Army provided the citizens with a large supply of food so that no one suffered from hunger, resulting in the rapid increase in the city's population from 200,000 to 250,000.

The Japanese troops restored the water supply and electricity and people were able to get return to their normal lives before New Year's Day.

The Japanese soldiers reportedly rendered tender care to the injured Chinese soldiers. No sign of a massacre were to be found.

It was the very spirit of tolerance and mercy that General Matsui instilled in the minds of his soldiers.

There were some cases of lootings and unfortunate rapes conducted by some unscrupulous Japanese soldiers, but they were severely punished, causing some dissatisfaction within the army.

Like Emperor Showa, both Tojo and General Matsui treated the Jews and the Chinese alike in the spirit of universal brotherhood.



Self-Defense Forces also Illustrated the Spirit of ﾂ"Tolerance and Mercyﾂ" to Foreigners

In recent years, we continued to witness the same spirit of tolerance and mercy the Japanese soldiers adhered to in Nanking.

The Self-Defense Forces were dispatched to Samawah, a city in the southern part of Iraq, to provide humanitarian and reconstruction assistance. The SDF engaged in various activities such as maintaining security, reconstructing hospitals, schools, roads, and bridges, and providing water and medical treatment.

According to the local paper, the foreign troops hired local people and told them what to do. On the other hand, SDF personnel, even senior officials, worked together with the local people.

The article stated, ﾂ"The people in Samawah discovered that the members of SDF are loving people with a strong ethical sense, the same as the Japanese of the past. They have inherited the grand tradition of showing respect for other nations, family life, and occupations of the people in foreign countries.

This shows that the way the Japanese troops treat foreigners has not changed much even 70 years after the war.

General Matsui and other officers heard about the ﾂ"Nanking Massacreﾂ" on a radio broadcast by the US after the war. It was just propaganda under the American military occupation. Obviously China is still conveniently continuing to spread this propaganda.



Tojo Was Evaluated Completely Differently than Schindler

The Jewish people had endured persecutions for thousands of years. The Nazi Holocaust was aimed at exterminating the Jews down to the last soul, bringing the Jews to the brink of extinction. The Nazi's stripped the Jews of the right to legal protection, took away their property rights, and the right to life and a fair trial. Asset forfeiture, unjust arrest, extrajudicial executions went unmentioned. The final solution was concentration camps and gas chambers.

Then Japan created the ideal of racial equality. They rejected the protests from Germany, then the ally of Japan, and saved as many Jews that they could.

Speaking of the person who saved the lives of many Jews, Schindler, a German industrialist, is best known. He employed the Jews who were about to be taken to camps in his factories. When he moved his factory to Czechoslovakia, he took imprisoned Jews with him, saving the lives of 1,200 Jews.

Schindler's courageous act of risking his life to save the Jews still continues to move people around the world. However, Tojo, who saved even more Jewish lives than Schindler, was convicted as aﾂ"Class A war criminalﾂ" and was hanged without any reference to his deeds of courage against his German allies and for the lives of those he quietly saved. Even today, he is condemned as the ﾂ"Hitler of Asia.ﾂ" How should we measure the world of difference between the assessments of these two people?



Tojo Who Sought Racial Equality Cried from his Soul

One of the personal notes written by Tojo is ﾂ"Modern Japan's Responsibilities for the Greater East Asia War from international Perspective.ﾂ"
In this note, Tojo sharply criticized the invasion and colonial rule of Asia and Africa by the West.

ﾂ'ﾂ"The Western countries advocated humanity, human rights, freedom, equality, and the rule of law and called the 19th century the century of nationalism'. However, wasn't this actually ﾂ'the century of the enslavement of Asians' by the West?'ﾂ"

ﾂ"The West may have enjoyed a highly advanced civilization and prosperity through capitalism and global free economy, but we must not forget that this prosperity was built upon the enslavement of over one billion people of color in Asia and Africa under the obscurantist policy.ﾂ"

ﾂ"Contrary to justice and humanity taught in Christianity, Western countries engaged in inhumane acts such as subjugation, atrocity, slave trafficking of Africans, the Opium War, acts of violence in the South African War, and the exploitation of India under colonial rule.ﾂ"

ﾂ"Remember how the delegations from Britain, Australia, and the US turned down the Japanese proposal calling for racial equality at the Versailles Peace Conference held after the First World War?ﾂ"
This is Tojo's cry from his soul for racial equality. This shows Tojo's character was unlike that of Hitler who massacred millions of Jews.

In actual fact, the Greater East Asia War fought by Japan put an end to the 500 years of colonial rule in Asia and Africa by the West. As Tojo said, over one billion colored people in Asia and Africa were freed from slavery.

Ba Maw, who became the first head of state of Burma after the Japanese army defeated Britain and overran Burma, wrote in his book, ﾂ"Breakthrough in Burma: Memories of Revolution 1939-1946ﾂ? the following;

ﾂ"From a historic perspective, no country other than Japan contributed to the freedom of Asian countries from White domination. The independence of Burma was declared on August 1st in 1943, not January 4th in 1948. The true liberator of Burma was not the Labor Party led by Clement Attlee, but General Tojo and the government of the Empire of Japan.ﾂ"



Now Is the Time to Remember Japan

After the war, the Soviets identified Higuchi, who saved the Jewish refugees in the Otpor incident, as aﾂ"war criminalﾂ"and demanded that MacArthur hand over him to the Soviet. After Japan accepted the Potsdam Declaration, the Soviet Union started to invade the Kuril Islands, so Higuchi led the troops and fought against the Soviet military, halting Stalin's ambition. This infuriated Stalin.

Upon hearing this, the Jewish community in the United States rose up to return the favor Japan bestowed upon them in Otpor. They lobbied General Headquarters of the Allied Forces and had MacArthur refuse to hand over Higuchi to the Soviet. If he would have been turned over to Russia, he would certainly have been executed.

Japan now is being called ﾂ"the Nazi of todayﾂ" and condemned as an evil country, and the Western media appears to be going along with this.

It is said that Zionist capitalists dominate the world's media. How can the Jewish people sit by and watch Japan facing this difficult situation? The answer is that few know about the Japanese acts of humanity in World War II toward the Jews. I hope as history is corrected to include this valiant chapter, that the Jewish people stand up and say, ﾂ"Now is the time to remember Japan.ﾂ"

Was Hideki Tojo, Who Saved the Jews, the "Hitler of Asia"?

 

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The Tibetan Flag

The Tibetan flag, also known as the 'snow lion flag'[1] and the 'Free Tibet flag', was a flag of the military of Tibet, introduced by the 13th Dalai Lama in 1912 and used in the same capacity until 1959. Designed with the help of a Japanese priest, it reflects the design motif of the Japanese military's Rising Sun Flag.[2] Since the 1960s, it is used a symbol of the Tibetan independence movement

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[Switches]

Germany didn't shrine Hitler and other Nazi criminals, and they banned all Nazi related symbols? What about Japan? When are they ever going to ban the Rising Sun flag? Wait they are still using in in their Navy.

And you wonder why the world is so angry at Japan?

Yasukuni houses not only criminals but those who served for the country. It is totally fine for Abe to visit the shrine because made an oath to the millions enshrined there that Japan will not be the aggressor and not create wars. What's wrong about that? I see nothing wrong with it, you're simply being narrow minded about it.

The Rising Sun flag has been used by the military far before WWII even started; it was adopted in 1870.

Your argument is invalid, Mr. Uninformed Chinese.

 

[FinancialWar]

haha good thing that China annexed Tibet, before it turns into another aggressor.

 

[caster55]

Abe is a realist. he is neither an ideologist.nor a militarist.
as for Yasukuni, Abe was misled as militarist because of visiting Yasukuni.
there is an APEC Conference in this Autumn. and there will be Japan and China's Conference
before that, he had to need political powers because of important law establishment earlier
Abe should not go Yasukuni near Apec to try to be reconciled with china.
In cace After APEC,it is to leave someone at the altar.
he selected the best timing

and it is said that is why Caroline Kennedy was into Abe
it showed it in Obama and Abe meeting well , that is, leration of Japan and USA

as for comfort women issue and Kono statement.
Though Abe refused to investigation, many Japanese understand there is no.. and it was accomplished
it was like " do not say and do too much". It is also required to capture the spotlight in the world

 

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People don't get angry about the non-war criminals. Just the war criminals. It's not like anybody is under the illusion that all of Yasukuni's interned were war criminals.

Apparently if the kami of the war criminals were removed and relocated to a different shrine, most people would not have a problem with the Japanese government making visits to Yasukuni. Apparently it is stated by Shinto priests that these kami cannot be moved, but I read somewhere that this isn't the case, because there is a ritual (bunrei and kanjõ) specifically designed for that (According to the text, My Own Inari by Karen A. Smyers).

I did a thesis on the controversies surrounding the Yasukuni Shrines two years ago during my senior year of college.
If I remember correctly, Abe is part of the conservative Liberal Democratic Party of Japan, and many of the other members are nationalists and avid visitors of the shrine.

 

[Mark of Zorro]

Was Hideki Tojo, Who Saved the Jews, the "Hitler of Asia"?

Yes.

I don't know exactly what role Tojo played in saving Jews or why, not do I care much because being a Nazi/fascist is about a hell of a lot more than hating Jews. The Nazis may have tortured, slaved and murdered millions of Jews, but the Japanese, under Tojo, did the same with Chinese. And lets not forget about launching wars across continents and getting lots of innocent people killed and violating lots of national sovereignties. Plus there was the propaganda of superiority, believed by many, along with the belief in infallibility and the oppression of political opinion and freedom of speech of their own people. Those along with many many other good reasons to dub Tojo the Hitler of Asia even if he did not wield the same absolute power as Hitler.

Shanghai Was Considered "Paradise" by the Jews

We cannot be talking about the same Shanghai that Jews in places like Kobe were forcibly relocated to.

For this reason, after the war, some Jewish refugees in Shanghai recalled, "Shanghai was paradise, compared to the Nazi-occupied nations where Jews were massacred.

Some Jewish refugees said exactly the same quote? Sure they did.

And on top of that you seem to be ignoring the caveat about near certain death in Nazi occupied places. Those in the fire would call the inside of the frying pan paradise RELATIVELY. Few things are worse than death, torture and starvation!

Shanghai Ghetto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On November 15, 1942, the idea of a restricted ghetto was approved. On February 18, 1943, the Japanese authorities declared a "Designated Area for Stateless Refugees", ordering those who arrived after 1937 to move their residences and businesses into the one-square-mile area within three months, by May 15. The stateless refugees needed permission from the Japanese to dispose of their property; others needed permission to move into the ghetto. While the ghetto had no barbed wire or walls, a curfew was enforced, the area was patrolled, food was rationed, and everyone needed passes to enter or leave the ghetto.[2]

Yes, I noticed that you avoided all the facts occurring after 1941. Propagandists ignore a lot of facts.

 

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the fact in korea at that time

 

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Nazi War Crimes &
Japanese Imperial Government Records
Interagency Working Group
Final Report to the United States Congress
April 2007

There are growing, unsubstantiated questions about whether the Japanese Imperial Army kidnapped 200,000 sex-slaves (Comfort Women) in World War II.
Mostly from Korea.

A $30 million US Government Study specifically searched for evidence on Comfort Women allegations.

After nearly seven years with many dozens of staff pouring through US archives -- and 30 million dollars down the drain -- we found a grand total of nothing.

The final IWG report to Congress was issued in 2007. (Linked below.)


Nobody should be writing about Comfort Women issues without reading this report cover to cover.

Many of the unsubstantiated claims are coming from Korea. Korean allegations have led to unexpected twists.

At the time, Korea was actually part of Japan -- roughly in the way that Puerto Rico is part of the USA.

Many Koreans were members of the Japanese military. So any allegations that the Japanese military kidnapped 200,000 women implies that Koreans were involved
in kidnapping Koreans. This is an uncomfortable reality. It gets even more uncomfortable.

So today, South Korean President Park Geun-hye constantly accuses Japan of kidnapping these shiploads of women.

Imagine how this boomerangs back. President Park is saying that Japan -- and her daddy was an officer in the Japanese Army at the time -- kidnapped uncounted
tens of thousands of women from Korea as sex-slaves. Yet there is no evidence that Korean men fought back.
During the war, Korea had a population of about 23 million. Today, Texas has a population of about 26 million.

Imagine trying to kidnap 200,000 Texas women. There would be a bloodbath. The Army would lose thousands of soldiers, and thousands of civilians no doubt would have
been slaughtered in return.
Evidence would be everywhere. Photos. Films. Battle sites. Texans would never allow 200,000 women to be stolen and raped without making a river of blood. So President
Park is essentially saying Korean men during World War II were a bunch of cowards.

Also imagine this from the perspective of a Japanese military General or Admiral. He is at war with the USA, Australia, Britain, China, and more. His hands are full.
The USA in particular is on the march with our Navy and Marines, and we are smashing Japan anywhere we can find Japanese.

All generals always want more troops and supplies. That is a fact of life. Just ask any General. Ask any business leader what he or she needs to expand or defend against
competition: They always want more resources.

What kind of fool General would dedicate the resources to kidnap, guard, transport, and feed 200,000 women, knowing that he is creating yet another war to fight?

The Japanese were highly advanced military thinkers. They made their own submarines, airplanes, and aircraft carriers. These were serious people, and super smart.

There is no way that Generals would dedicate those resources to kidnapping women when the US military and allies were marching down their throats. They had a war to fight
-- this was not Spring Break.

Any serious military or business person can see the folly in common sense of kidnapping 200,000 women. It does not make sense, and would have created a new war in Korea
-- which was a base for Japanese recruitment. Koreans were fighting Americans. Koreans were our enemy.

And back to Korean men. It would be horrific to see the US Army try to kidnap 200,000 Texas women -- especially so considering that many US military members are Texans,
just as many Koreans were Japanese Soldiers.

Texas would rise up and start smashing the Army. Bridges would blow up. Soldiers would be shot every day. Bases would burn. The Army would fight back and there would be total war.

So are we to believe that Korean men are such cowards that nobody lifted a hand to defend their women? Because if they allowed these many women to be kidnapped,
they are cowards, and their sons today had cowards for fathers.

The reality is that we know that Koreans are no cowards. Koreans are a courageous people. So what really happened? It is clear from source documents, and the common sense
that every water buffalo possesses, that there was no mass kidnapping.

It's all a lie, and no matter how much someone hates Japan, it will always be a lie.

Please read the IWG report that practically nobody seems to know exists. If you do not have time for the whole report, do a search inside the report for Comfort Women, and
carefully read those parts:

http://www.archives.gov/iwg/reports/final-report-2007.pdf

 

[Mark of Zorro]

Blah blah BLAH blah.

Blah.

BLAH blah blah.

Blah BLAH.

 

[caster55]

 

[Mary27]

Does the shrine still have the kitean suicide aircraft on the grounds outside and the doolittle raider B-25 wreckage exhibit inside of it?

 

[danno]

Does the shrine still have the kitean suicide aircraft on the grounds outside and the doolittle raider B-25 wreckage exhibit inside of it?

No sign of any Doolittle wreckage in the War Museum at Yasukine when I was there last year. Just a nicely restored Zero fighter and a Navy bomber. A very good museum for WW2 aficionados. Although I do understand that some consider visiting the museum somewhat controversial.

 

[Mark of Zorro]

When talking about things like Yasukuni and sex slaves erroneously called comfort women, the millions killed, tortured, KIDNAPPED, slaved, dispossessed, and displaced, and all these Japanese politicians and right-wing nuts declaring things didn't happen and that apologies are not necessary and its ancient history and its regrettable and reparations have been paid....then have a look at Japanese constant hair rending over a mere handful of people kidnapped by North Korea, despite some returning to Japan and North Korea confessing, and insistence that those declared dead must surely still be alive.

And I assure you there are still unmarked mass graves of slaved Chinese and Koreans at other shrines in Japan as others have been unearthed. Just as surely as Megumi Yokota lies in an unmarked grave in North Korea.

Clearly Japan wants to be more equal than others. Apparently, a million mainland Asians are not worth one Japanese fingernail.

 

[Mark of Zorro]

Does the shrine still have the kitean suicide aircraft on the grounds outside and the doolittle raider B-25 wreckage exhibit inside of it?

If there were Doolittle wreckage, surely the signs at Yasukuni would point out the schools they damaged while bombing civilians. Oh well, so would I. And I note that wikipedia has been sponged of the fact. Lying liars and the truth they omit. Liars should get jail time.

 

[Mary27]

Werent Korean men serving in the japanese military at the time? How come they let their daughters sisters suffer like that?

 

[Mark of Zorro]

Werent Korean men serving in the japanese military at the time? How come they let their daughters sisters suffer like that?

So, you actually believe IJA soldiers wielded significant amounts of political power or had a say in anything...just by the virtue of serving in the army? Do you even believe they had equal status with their Japanese counterparts just because they too had their "souls" inducted into Yasukuni (against their families' wishes)?

When was the last time YOU saved any of your countrymen from the brutality of armed thugs? Are we supposed to believe you are going to unilaterally turn into Batman if we give you a uniform and a gun?

 

[Mike Cash]

Werent Korean men serving in the japanese military at the time? How come they let their daughters sisters suffer like that?

Do you know anything at all about the history of relations between Japan and Korea?

 

[Mary27]

Very little. Sounds like it doesnt pay to be friends with ww2 japan.

 

[Mary27]

You know. That is actually kind of frightning. Japan was forced into being our allies and friends. Would or could they ever turn on us too?

 

[Mark of Zorro]

Do you know anything at all about the history of relations between Japan and Korea?

We may well get the usual response that Korean pimps sold women and girls to the IJA and/or ran the brothels they used. It gets pretty tired. Its tired because even though its true, its an attempt to obfuscate the larger truth that those slimeball Korean pimps were random opportunists and thugs, and not part of an official Korean system and not a typical Korean at all. They were contractors in an official and sanctioned Japanese system.

It also attempts to obfuscate the truth that the rape of someone else's slave is still rape and the perpetrator still a slimeball. I few Korean slimeballs don't compare to the hoard of Japanese slimeballs at the time in any way, shape or form.

 

[Mark of Zorro]

You know. That is actually kind of frightning. Japan was forced into being our allies and friends. Would or could they ever turn on us too?

That is a funny way to put it. If Japan ever became an enemy of America again, it would not be because America has been nothing but nice to Japan. America has shoved a lot of garbage down Japan's throat over the years along with just desserts. But just desserts are never appreciated and only add to the hard feelings.

 

[Mary27]

Like what?

 

[Mark of Zorro]

When you ask "Would they turn on us?" it sounds like Japan is traitorous and untrustworthy and we are innocent, no?