Words based on Japanese Kanji have even more affected Korean words in Hanja (=Kanji, Hanzi) when they were in use, they are written phonetically now using Hangul. So Chinese Kanji travelled from China to Japan and Korea. Some words have been created in Japan (+ a small number of pure Japanese Kanji) travelled back to China and Korea. Normally, Japanese words are transformed in Chinese to use the current version of Hanzi and pronounced according to the pinyin rules in Mandarin, so from your example:
For example, the original Japanese ツ図ツ鞘?佛?テ兌/SIZE] (窶堙??堋オ窶堙・窶堋ゥ窶堙ア - toshokan) "library" becomes 图书馆 (simplified) or ナ。ツ、ツ鞘?佛?テ兌/SIZE] (traditional) túshūguǎn. Note that the 1st character is different in both simplified and traditional Chinese and pronunciation is not the same.
Taiwan uses more Japanese words than mainland China, some are only colloquial, based on pronunciation, not Kanji/Hanzi:
For example, some colloquialisms in Taiwan:
ナク^窶ケgナ狸 (ōujísāng) - 窶堋ィ窶禿ェ窶堋ウ窶堙ア (ojīsan) "uncle"
ナク^窶拊ナ狸 (ōubāsāng) - 窶堋ィ窶挂窶堋ウ窶堙ア (obāsan) "aunt"
Made-in-Japan 不倫 (adultery) is also adopted in China.Sorry for the bad influence from Japan.
窶「テ鞘?佚 ( hentai,pervert ) ..
BTW,窶「s窶氾 means incest in Chinese
lol i expect that too,like "Connechewa" and " Aregatou " and " Ohayou " ,i use Japanese words everyday,i like japanese more than English ..Astroboy said:Really???? But I'm sure that "Hentai" will be included in Oxford Dictionary soon or later.
Taiwan uses more Japanese words than mainland China
I think that grapefruit, is being Pan-Asian.
Japan has no need to get along better with Asia than the West.
I have read nothing in this thread to make me think otherwise.
That's because the discussion slipped into a different direction. There are always benefits of getting along with neighbours and non-neighbours. Economically, Japan could have a huge benefit if it got along with China and, of course, if China got along with Japan. The current trend shows it's gradually going that way. Look at long time enemies turned friends: France-Germany or Germany-Russia. The social and cultural benefit is far more important. East Asian countries could compete with Hollywood in producing the best movies, with Europe making film and music festivals. All the rough edges disappear when there is a lot of communication.Japan has no need to get along better with Asia than the West.
I have read nothing in this thread to make me think otherwise.
However, your post itself sounds anti-Asian. Why is that? Are you angry at China or some other Asian country?
My take on relationship of Japan & Chinas & Koreas,sums up in one word ' pendulum '.
latest example ...
The number of South Korean people rating Japan as ツ"the most- disliked countryツ" has increased to 57 percent from last year's 38 percent, the JoongAng Ilbo newspaper said Monday, citing its survey results.
The results clearly showed anti-Japanese sentiment has intensified in South Korea since Japan decided in July to assert its claim to sovereignty over a pair of rocky islets that Seoul controls.
http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=6296
It seems the majority of Japanese oppose becoming part of Asian worrying communist China becoming a dominant player in the group, This is understandable and similar to what the western media subscribe for in fear of a non-democratic country holding ever-increasing power in the world.Internet Opinion Poll - Realtime Yoron Chos.net indicates below:
http://www.yoronchousa.net/result/1445
About East Asia Union
First 5 lines = Positive.
But all below = Negative.
Although it is not a result of all Japanese, I believe it reflects majority voice.
To me, Numbers 2 and 3 do not fit together well. When a Japanese leaves his/her little islands and gets into the world community, it is easy to be isolated and misunderstood in the world dominated by the West if the person does not corporate with other Asians. At this moment, the world is not an ideal place as we wished to be. Racism in both strong and weak forms are rampant (since prejudice by nature stems from the strategy of stereotyping that is indispensable for humans to process an enormous amount of information). You feel much comfortable and easy to be with Koreans and Chinese in such situations even if you are aware of their national sentiments toward Japan.I don't think his post sounds like anti-China/Asia. He just wanted to tell ....
1. JAPAN is JAPAN, being not a part of anything.
2. Geographic location is not important as the world is being much smaller.
3. Culture & language is not important, either, as it's mosaic even in Asia.
4. Economic integration is already completed.
5. It is more than enough from the Japanese perspective.
But I don't know Chinese perspective.
be isolated and misunderstood in the world dominated by the West if the person does not corporate with other Asians.
Racism in both strong and weak forms are rampant (since prejudice by nature stems from the strategy of stereotyping that is indispensable for humans to process an enormous amount of information).
You feel much comfortable and easy to be with Koreans and Chinese in such situations even if you are aware of their national sentiments toward Japan.
For instance, westerners might not understand the craziness of Japanese women trying their best to maintain their skin white. Even if you try to explain how Japanese view the issue, this looks incomprehensible to the value system held in the west, because western women try hard to look tan. You feel more comfortable to have Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indonesians, and other Asians on your side. This is a small example and its not even related to the issue of racism.
Personally I have never experienced any racisim overseas
In real world & online ( ナ陳サナステ?ツ青「ナ?E窶堙??堙?,ニ値ニ鍛ニ暖窶堙個青「ナ?E窶堙??堙? ),Japanese who admitted and confessed to be victims of White racism overseas have been females.
Really ? I have never heard about such things. But sounds interesting. Are there any source?