kairi~vs~rinoa
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- 16 Oct 2004
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[>Kaidan<] why do people like dir en grey so much?
[>Kaidan<] I just don't get it.
[+ pink spider +] because they're talented... do you not like them then?
[>Kaidan<] They haven't shown talent in their music for about four years.
[>Kaidan<] I don't like quite a bit of their work.
[+ pink spider +] hmmmm i'll admit their music isn't what it used to be, but thats not a bad thing. i think they're still good.
[>Kaidan<] Honestly, they can't even duplicate what little talent they showed in their earlier work. Toshiya TOTALLY ****** over the Cage solo in the 5 days concerts.
[>Kaidan<] It's funny. I was one of their biggest fans about five years ago. XD Oh how the mighty have fallen.
[>Kaidan<] I've given them more money than most every person that has accused me of just being a hater on them. XD
[jeunne_fille] i liked their music when they were visual, now they are more mainstream
[>Kaidan<] That's another thing. What is up with visual? Do people really need a pretty face to sell them music?
[>Kaidan<] Has the world become so shallow?
[jeunne_fille] visual kei is the basis of most japanese rock bands and now teen culture in Japan, why do you hate it? it is just an art form
[>Kaidan<] There are so many great bands out there (speaking of japanese music, that is) that don't have to dress up like ugly women to make good (better) music.
[jeunne_fille] excuse me , ugly? and its not shallow at all
[>Kaidan<] Most japanese teens LAUGH at visual kids.
[>Kaidan<] IT'S A JOKE.
[>Kaidan<] It's an insult to their fanbase.
[>Kaidan<] To think that their fans wont care unless they look good. Which is really a sad thing, because it's true. Most visual fans only like bands because of their looks.
[>Kaidan<] Talk to any cosplay girl at almost any visual live, and they'll tell you "i only like this band because ____ is so cute."
[+ pink spider +] so you're saying that most people don't like diru now because they've eased off on the vk?
[>Kaidan<] I'm saying who cares what dir en grey look like, their music has been kind of lacking for the past four years.
[>Kaidan<] I mean, every new release seems to have more and more distortion covering everything. There's little discernable guitar work that you can make out through the haze.
[>Kaidan<] Kyo's vocals have dissolved into hardly anything other than screams and moans and whines.
[>Kaidan<] I'm saying that dir en grey fans, for the most part, must be either fans of screamo, or are just being loyal to the band that they used to like, but still want to support (for some reason).
[>Kaidan<] I just lament the fact that they no longer seem to care what they sound like, as long as people will still give them money.
[>Kaidan<] Or maybe what some girl said yesterday is true, and that they're just trying to americanize their sound to appeal to their overseas fanbase.
[>Kaidan<] But seeing them in lives, they really don't seem to enjoy it. I mean, during the 5 days blitz thing, they acted like they didn't even want to be there. You could TELL they didn't want to play their old songs....
[>Kaidan<] it wasn't a comfortable set of lives.
[>Kaidan<] But they dropped the old sound while they played the old songs. They revamped them with their newly acquired haze of distortion and screams.
[>Kaidan<] In some of the songs, the audience sang more than Kyo.
[>Kaidan<] There are other bands that aren't so lackadasical towards their music even after being around for 7+ years.
[>Kaidan<] Other who despite changing their sound drastically, don't end up sucking with every song sounding basically the same.
i'd like to hear people's opinions on this. is it really all about the vk these days?
[>Kaidan<] I just don't get it.
[+ pink spider +] because they're talented... do you not like them then?
[>Kaidan<] They haven't shown talent in their music for about four years.
[>Kaidan<] I don't like quite a bit of their work.
[+ pink spider +] hmmmm i'll admit their music isn't what it used to be, but thats not a bad thing. i think they're still good.
[>Kaidan<] Honestly, they can't even duplicate what little talent they showed in their earlier work. Toshiya TOTALLY ****** over the Cage solo in the 5 days concerts.
[>Kaidan<] It's funny. I was one of their biggest fans about five years ago. XD Oh how the mighty have fallen.
[>Kaidan<] I've given them more money than most every person that has accused me of just being a hater on them. XD
[jeunne_fille] i liked their music when they were visual, now they are more mainstream
[>Kaidan<] That's another thing. What is up with visual? Do people really need a pretty face to sell them music?
[>Kaidan<] Has the world become so shallow?
[jeunne_fille] visual kei is the basis of most japanese rock bands and now teen culture in Japan, why do you hate it? it is just an art form
[>Kaidan<] There are so many great bands out there (speaking of japanese music, that is) that don't have to dress up like ugly women to make good (better) music.
[jeunne_fille] excuse me , ugly? and its not shallow at all
[>Kaidan<] Most japanese teens LAUGH at visual kids.
[>Kaidan<] IT'S A JOKE.
[>Kaidan<] It's an insult to their fanbase.
[>Kaidan<] To think that their fans wont care unless they look good. Which is really a sad thing, because it's true. Most visual fans only like bands because of their looks.
[>Kaidan<] Talk to any cosplay girl at almost any visual live, and they'll tell you "i only like this band because ____ is so cute."
[+ pink spider +] so you're saying that most people don't like diru now because they've eased off on the vk?
[>Kaidan<] I'm saying who cares what dir en grey look like, their music has been kind of lacking for the past four years.
[>Kaidan<] I mean, every new release seems to have more and more distortion covering everything. There's little discernable guitar work that you can make out through the haze.
[>Kaidan<] Kyo's vocals have dissolved into hardly anything other than screams and moans and whines.
[>Kaidan<] I'm saying that dir en grey fans, for the most part, must be either fans of screamo, or are just being loyal to the band that they used to like, but still want to support (for some reason).
[>Kaidan<] I just lament the fact that they no longer seem to care what they sound like, as long as people will still give them money.
[>Kaidan<] Or maybe what some girl said yesterday is true, and that they're just trying to americanize their sound to appeal to their overseas fanbase.
[>Kaidan<] But seeing them in lives, they really don't seem to enjoy it. I mean, during the 5 days blitz thing, they acted like they didn't even want to be there. You could TELL they didn't want to play their old songs....
[>Kaidan<] it wasn't a comfortable set of lives.
[>Kaidan<] But they dropped the old sound while they played the old songs. They revamped them with their newly acquired haze of distortion and screams.
[>Kaidan<] In some of the songs, the audience sang more than Kyo.
[>Kaidan<] There are other bands that aren't so lackadasical towards their music even after being around for 7+ years.
[>Kaidan<] Other who despite changing their sound drastically, don't end up sucking with every song sounding basically the same.
i'd like to hear people's opinions on this. is it really all about the vk these days?