raikado
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- 29 Oct 2012
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Hello,
1) パタン:
軽くて平たいものがぶつかったり、たおれたりするときの音です。
マンガで見る|基本スキット|第22課
First, is it the same thing as using たおれたりしたとき?
And if it is, why not use ~たりしたとき. I thought the tense before とき was important. Is the dictionary form allowed because there is an enumeration there?
2) I need to explain quite a bit for this next sentence. 風香 gets in an embarrassing situation. Her sister, あさぎ sees this, calls her younger sister as well, and makes fun of her, then she leaves. Meanwhile, Yotsuba's father is trying to help 風香. After all this is over, 風香 apologizes for the trouble and then starts to complain (I think she complains mostly to herself, but Yotsuba's father is still in front of her) : 風香:ゔ―!!かっこ悪い!! なんでこんな事に!! あさぎ姉ちゃんにはバカにされるし
a) In the last sentence she says "あさぎ made fun of me!" and not "あさぎ will make fun of me!", right? So バカにされる = バカにされた here.
b) With what purpose is は used in あさぎ姉ちゃんには? I don't think it indicates the topic here, so...is it this one? ("1 「に」の付いた部分を強める意を表す。「僕―わかっている」「ここ―ない」「わざわざ出向く―当たらない」") It says emphasis, but judging by these examples, it looks like "contrastive は".
にはの意味 - 国語辞書 - goo辞書
3) I'd also want to check my understanding of the し particle.
彼女は美しいし気立てもいい
「She is beautiful, and, moreover, [Besides being beautiful,] she is good-natured.
しの英語・英訳 - goo辞書 英和和英
I know し can be used for enumerating. Is it exhaustive, or does it depend on context (just like ~たり)?
1) パタン:
軽くて平たいものがぶつかったり、たおれたりするときの音です。
マンガで見る|基本スキット|第22課
First, is it the same thing as using たおれたりしたとき?
And if it is, why not use ~たりしたとき. I thought the tense before とき was important. Is the dictionary form allowed because there is an enumeration there?
2) I need to explain quite a bit for this next sentence. 風香 gets in an embarrassing situation. Her sister, あさぎ sees this, calls her younger sister as well, and makes fun of her, then she leaves. Meanwhile, Yotsuba's father is trying to help 風香. After all this is over, 風香 apologizes for the trouble and then starts to complain (I think she complains mostly to herself, but Yotsuba's father is still in front of her) : 風香:ゔ―!!かっこ悪い!! なんでこんな事に!! あさぎ姉ちゃんにはバカにされるし
a) In the last sentence she says "あさぎ made fun of me!" and not "あさぎ will make fun of me!", right? So バカにされる = バカにされた here.
b) With what purpose is は used in あさぎ姉ちゃんには? I don't think it indicates the topic here, so...is it this one? ("1 「に」の付いた部分を強める意を表す。「僕―わかっている」「ここ―ない」「わざわざ出向く―当たらない」") It says emphasis, but judging by these examples, it looks like "contrastive は".
にはの意味 - 国語辞書 - goo辞書
3) I'd also want to check my understanding of the し particle.
彼女は美しいし気立てもいい
「She is beautiful, and, moreover, [Besides being beautiful,] she is good-natured.
しの英語・英訳 - goo辞書 英和和英
I know し can be used for enumerating. Is it exhaustive, or does it depend on context (just like ~たり)?
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