Banned from Japan

I'm just wondering why, except cocoichi, nobody is questioning about Japanese police's behavior...

Just to be clear:
Questioning Japanese police's behavior in this specific situation. Given that what you say is all true.

I personally never had any problems with them, and it's never justified to hit a cop out of self respect.

All I'm trying to do is give you objective advice :)
 
The chance of success is pretty small, I know.

I don't there is any provision in Japanese law for lifting a ban. The law regarding the ban is very clear.
 
You two guys are fantastic, just for the reason you are concerned about my case!
And I appreciate it so much. Really! THANK YOU!!!
You are awesome!

but:
I got the probation ONLY thanks to CCTV recordings that my lawyer found out…
The judge was so embarrassed and the prosecutor, speechless…
However they found a way to kick me out.
The only consolation would be that those 4 policemen got fired… but i'm not that kind of person. I'm very forgiving person. We are humans after all…
I would like them to reflect about that, and do all my best to give them their jobs back...
But knowing unforgiving japanese system, they might are working now is some under-paid, rice field in Shizuoka....

We all got punished, afterall...

p.s. cocoichi:
At least I would write a very deep letter of regret (apologizing for hitting the cop, to have been a burden to the Japanese judicial system and society, even for taking someone's time to read this letter and making him decide whether or not to clean your sheet). Then I would add something about what you have done to become a better person, how the situation has helped you to see things clear, whatever, and what you can/could do in Japan that Japan would benefit from.

The chance of success is pretty small, I know. Make one more mistake and it's basically that guy's responsibility, because he let you back in.


THANK YOU! I'LL DO MY BEST TO TRY TO BE FORGIVEN! also because I volunteered to help disabled JAPANESE people to visit my Country, between 2014-2015.
 
I do think there's something to say about the police crossing the line, and the government getting rid of you rather quickly. Don't know where you are from (PIZZA LAND) or how well you speak the language (very well), but it might be an interesting story to a journalist at a well known Japanese newspaper or well read website. Maybe there's someone that reports about police brutality or racist judges in Japan, and maybe it will catch some attention. I think that's your best shot.
 
Please introduce me to that journalist, to show how Japan don't want us, but just tollerate us.... System wise...
I don't care if I will be kneecapped... PLEASE! SPREAD IT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, AGAINST FOREIGNERS!
THANK YOU!!!
 
It is irrelevant to the question at hand and we have only your side of the story....and by your own admission you were astoundingly drunk at the time.
I have 2 witnesses. of course japanese, and nobody touched them...
oh my.... really can't understsnd your "devotion" to this racist system...

are you happy with that?
 
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Please introduce me to that journalist, to show how Japan don't want us, but just tollerate us.... System wise...
I don't care if I will be kneecapped... PLEASE! SPREAD IT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, AGAINST FOREIGNERS!
THANK YOU!!!

Good sir, I am not that well connected, and I live in Europe. You said you can speak Japanese very well (which is better than my Japanese), so I am sure you can contact any large Japanese media outlet and try for yourself.

I have 2 witnesses. of course japanese, and nobody touched them...
oh my.... really can't understsnd your "devotion" to this racist system...

are you happy with that?

May I ask why you are so devoted yourself on returning to Japan, when it seems you are quite done with the Japanese system?
 
Please introduce me to that journalist, to show how Japan don't want us, but just tollerate us.... System wise...
I don't care if I will be kneecapped... PLEASE! SPREAD IT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, AGAINST FOREIGNERS!
THANK YOU!!!

Dear journalist, I would like to tell you how Japan treated me unfairly by deporting me after I committed a violent crime. Yes, I know Japan is home to about a million foreigners who don't get deported because they don't commit violent crimes and has hosted many millions of tourists who weren't deported because they didn't commit violent crimes. But you must understand I am a special snowflake and Japan applying their impartial law to me impartially is a sign how Japan doesn't want us but just tolerates us. Yes, the deportation of one foreigner who is an unrepentant convicted violent criminal proves systemic Japanese racism. Japan is a horrible place and the Japanese are horrible people.I am writing this in hopes you can do something to help me go back to this horrible country.

Thank you

Clinically insane gaijin

There you go....I wrote your letter for you. All you have to do is copy and paste.

You are banned from Japan. That isn't going to change and there is really no point in discussing this further. I think a thread lock is in order.
 
I haven't read more than most of the first page.

You are going to have to live with the fact that you are banned. I don't like the way in which you try to rationalize things (not violent to punch a police officer, but self respect!). That won't fly in any circumstance, no matter if the officers lost their jobs or not.

If you are trying to get help from an anonymous discussion forum, you are really hopeless. Talk to an immigration lawyer. That is the only credible source you should be consulting.

Just out of curiosity, if you haven't already stated it, why do you feel so strongly about returning? I suspect there is a lover involved, but I don't want to speculate.
 
Yes, guys. I'm a moron, insane and helpless right now (ain't sarcastic).
In this moment i'm just over-emotional and can't think rationally.

And, yes, Glenski, there is my future wife involved... I didn't want to talk further about my private life. That's all.
After I discovered that we can't settle a family in her homeland, we tried to figure out a solution, to live together in Europe or Bangkok.
But unfortunately she cannot leave... She is a single child and have to tare care of her old parents in Gunma, everyday. She had to move from Tokyo, quit her job and now is working in a local 7-11, in order to stay with them.
Moreover, my "physical" support would be a great help.
But the immigration was immovable.
We are still in touch, she come to Bangkok to visit me (5-6 hours flight for mere 25,000yen, roundtrip, AirAsia) when she can, but I guess, both of us don't wanna wait until our 50's to marry and have kids that late...
So if I won't find a way, it will be soon over, i guess...
I did a single mistake and I'm a human-being. We all should get a second chance. But of course you can disagree, it's just my point of view about life.
Yes, I don't like that unforgiving system and that sneaky racism that is deep-rooted in that Country. But the love of my life is stuck there, I'm denied to help her and being with her. And, yes, I still love and miss the Country itself as a land, not the system.
Perhaps, thinks will change for the Tokyo olimpics... Let's see.

Yes I consulted some lawyers: about my first passport they were all clear... But no one could guarantee me 100% that coming with the second one it would succeed (the most they could said was: dekiru kana (in japanese "kana", usually is used to predict a 50% chance), because someone made it trough, yes, but could be just fortunate cases where the officers overlooked and maybe were inexperienced trainees. Who knows...
You guys where just my another hope. You never know... Sometimes an unexpected info can come out. But I'll continue to research. Perhaps a foreign lawyer living there, might know more about immigration system holes, compared to Japanese ones. But, geez, international lawyers are damn expensive. LOL. But, at this point no other choice.

Anyway, thank you so much for your time also for the critics regarding my personality. They have to be treated always as a treasure to learn more about yourself, what people can see in you and weren't aware of. I should try to be less emotional and be more rational. Thanks. Really.

p.s. about the punch for "self-respect" maybe was misleading. I should improve my english, sorry. What I meant was that, I wanted to be respected as their law commands: who touch first the other is in the wrong side, always. Japanese law. But they shoved me, laughed at me, thinking they were over the law. Well, they weren't after all, coz they got punished, too.
I had to be smarter that time and keep myself calm and be superior to them... But,
I went down to their level, maybe even below... And that's the result. I'm really a baka gaijin, as they stated while laughing at me. They were right. LOL
 
Yes I consulted some lawyers: about my first passport they were all clear... But no one could guarantee me 100% that coming with the second one it would succeed (the most they could said was: dekiru kana (in japanese "kana", usually is used to predict a 50% chance), because someone made it trough, yes, but could be just fortunate cases where the officers overlooked and maybe were inexperienced trainees. Who knows...
You guys where just my another hope. You never know... Sometimes an unexpected info can come out. But I'll continue to research. Perhaps a foreign lawyer living there, might know more about immigration system holes, compared to Japanese ones. But, geez, international lawyers are damn expensive. LOL. But, at this point no other choice.
Any lawyer that says maybe is a fool, and should be removed from the bar association.

Just imagine: You land at Narita, Haneda or whatever airport you will use. Somehow you make it past the immigration officer and get a 90 day tourist visa. Then what? Are you going to overstay your visa (and break the law once more), or are you going back to Thailand and take a gamble every single time you want to visit Japan? You know that you will never get a visa better than the on the spot 90 day tourist visa. Plus, making it past immigration is just one step. What are you gonna do when you see a police officer on the street? Will you become suspicious that they got a warrant for your arrest? What if you get into a situation where you need to consult the police, or they will approach you?

And now the cold part from my side (and this is nothing personal): How do you know your girlfriend is not keeping you in the dark about her daily life? She also should know by now that you returning to Japan is almost impossible, and she is stuck there. Being around her parents and working in a conbini could also make her wish for a better life (in which the husband is working, so she can take care of her relatives), and from my experience Japanese women are not the adventurous type (in other words: they want stability, and don't go for the "we can overcome anything as long as we love eachother" road).

I wish you all the best, but it might be better to accept your situation, and go on with your life. If you really miss the Tokyo lifestyle, you could consider the closes thing to Japan from a foreigner's perspective: Seoul, Hong Kong or Singapore. Maybe even Shanghai.
 
Any lawyer that says maybe is a fool, and should be removed from the bar association.

Just imagine: You land at Narita, Haneda or whatever airport you will use. Somehow you make it past the immigration officer and get a 90 day tourist visa. Then what? Are you going to overstay your visa (and break the law once more), or are you going back to Thailand and take a gamble every single time you want to visit Japan? You know that you will never get a visa better than the on the spot 90 day tourist visa. Plus, making it past immigration is just one step. What are you gonna do when you see a police officer on the street? Will you become suspicious that they got a warrant for your arrest? What if you get into a situation where you need to consult the police, or they will approach you?

And now the cold part from my side (and this is nothing personal): How do you know your girlfriend is not keeping you in the dark about her daily life? She also should know by now that you returning to Japan is almost impossible, and she is stuck there. Being around her parents and working in a conbini could also make her wish for a better life (in which the husband is working, so she can take care of her relatives), and from my experience Japanese women are not the adventurous type (in other words: they want stability, and don't go for the "we can overcome anything as long as we love eachother" road).

I wish you all the best, but it might be better to accept your situation, and go on with your life. If you really miss the Tokyo lifestyle, you could consider the closes thing to Japan from a foreigner's perspective: Seoul, Hong Kong or Singapore. Maybe even Shanghai.

About the 90-days visa, you are completely right! That's why I need to be sure that it's safe 101% using the second citizenship, resulting as a another person for the database, as the lawyers stated: till now SEEMS that the system didn't make a crosscheck between nationalities... It would be resulting that the same fingerprints and facial recognition will be recorded on a separate directory, one for each Country.
BUT, technology advance everyday. So who knows... that's their answer... Yes it's foolish.. Fortunately they were cheap, it makes sense. LOL.
I won't step in and gamble with my life, until the attorney won't sign me a written statement that what he says is completely true and safe, otherwise he will pay me onerous compensation, for screwing further, my life! (of course i'm kidding... just wanna make you aware how serious I'm about that. I have to be completely worry-free by stepping in that land again).
So I'll go with some gaijin attorney, they are much better... but ridiculously expensive.

About my "wannabe wife", thanks for your advice :) But... well, don't worry. I'm 35... I can say know now confidently, who I can trust or not. Otherwise, I wouldn't put that much effort in coming back. :)

Actually I don't like much the chaotic Tokyo lifestyle, is tiresome, but it's a matter of memories (40% of my life), which can't be replaced, "smelled" in other Tokyo-like cities. Plus, I have a tons of friends there. I miss them.
I repeat, Japanese (not all, of course) taken as single individuals, when they start knowing you deeply, are really genuine and kind. It's the system that it's rotten. Maybe in the upcoming next 20 years, things will change with a more open-minded young politicians. And I could wait. But, repeat, there are too many human relationship then I'm missing from there.
 
About the 90-days visa, you are completely right! That's why I need to be sure that it's safe 101% using the second citizenship.

It will never be safe, because you are banned. It is illegal to enter.

till now SEEMS that the system didn't make a crosscheck between nationalities... It would be resulting that the same fingerprints and facial recognition will be recorded on a separate directory, one for each Country.

Why would this be per country? They should/could run it through a database of lawbreakers, regardless of nationality.

I won't step in and gamble with my life, until the attorney won't sign me a written statement that what he says is completely true and safe

No lawyer except for Saul Goodman would ever do that, because he then would confess to be helping in a criminal activity.

I can say know now confidently, who I can trust or not. Otherwise, I wouldn't put that much effort in coming back. :)

Have you tried appealing your case? I think you should quit your effort in looking for backdoors, and 100% focus on getting that ban removed. I don't know if that is even possible, but I think it's the only way worth exploring.
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Extra comment: what's Japan's policy on a banned person trying to re-enter? I know from Border Security (Australian tv show) that people who try get automatically sent back on the first plane to the country of origin. If that's also Japan's policy, you don't have much to lose except for a swift return to Thailand.
 
There's quite a lot about your story I simply don't believe.

I have trouble believing you have actually been consulting with lawyers at all. It only took me a few minutes googling to learn about 上陸特別許可 and there's no way a Japanese immigration lawyer is indulging your "second citizenship" idiocy without having told you of the existence of the system. The conclusion is that either you haven't actually been talking to Japanese immigration lawyers or that they have already told you that you don't have a chance in hell of 上陸特別許可 and you didn't tell us.

From the Ministry of Justice:
http://www.moj.go.jp/content/001140035.pdf

Note:
上陸拒否期間
日本国又は日本国以外の法令に違反して1年以上の懲役又は禁錮等に処せられた場合等(「懲役刑等(1年以上)」)の上陸拒否期間は無期限(長期拒否)

Frankly, with a record of a violent crime and no Japanese spouse/children or foreign spouse/children who are legally in Japan, I would guess your chances are near zero.
 
Extra comment: what's Japan's policy on a banned person trying to re-enter? I know from Border Security (Australian tv show) that people who try get automatically sent back on the first plane to the country of origin. If that's also Japan's policy, you don't have much to lose except for a swift return to Thailand.

It happens excatly the same, like in Border Security. LOL, I watched all their seasons. :D
You are detained at the border and you have to buy a last-minute ultra-expensive flight. Of course, after being interrogated for hours.... But I would like to avoid that... I couldn't stand another detainment...
But i clearly remember of as US citizen (banned from Australia), coming with her second Greek passport.
They found her suspicious coz she couldn't speak Greek well (while in my case, i can speak my second language like a native) . they stopped her, interrogated her why she did it. Her reason was that she missed her step-daughter and wanted to see her at all costs!
Result? THEY LET HER IN, because the officers considered it a good reason (we are humans and have feelings).
But that was Australia. Not Japan, where the words such us "mercy" and "compassion" don't exist in their vocabulary.
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Why would this be per country? They should/could run it through a database of lawbreakers, regardless of nationality.

That's what my 2 lawyer said. More than this I don't know.

No lawyer except for Saul Goodman would ever do that, because he then would confess to be helping in a criminal activity.

I said i was kidding. please re-read the post. :)

Have you tried appealing your case? I think you should quit your effort in looking for backdoors, and 100% focus on getting that ban removed. I don't know if that is even possible, but I think it's the only way worth exploring.

Of course i wanted to, but the lawyer at that time suggested me to accept the probation, coz it would take years and tons of money to continue, with a mere 1~2% chance of success...
Moreover, I was convinced it was just a 5-years ban. Even the embassy assured me that (both! my embassy and Japanese embassy in my Country).
To belie themselves this year by contacting JP immigration. I just wanted to double-check and FORTUNATELY I did! Otherwise I would still live with the illusion that I'll can come back on beginning of 2018.
 
There's quite a lot about your story I simply don't believe.

I have trouble believing you have actually been consulting with lawyers at all. It only took me a few minutes googling to learn about 上陸特別許可 and there's no way a Japanese immigration lawyer is indulging your "second citizenship" idiocy without having told you of the existence of the system. The conclusion is that either you haven't actually been talking to Japanese immigration lawyers or that they have already told you that you don't have a chance in hell of 上陸特別許可 and you didn't tell us.

From the Ministry of Justice:
http://www.moj.go.jp/content/001140035.pdf

Note:
上陸拒否期間
日本国又は日本国以外の法令に違反して1年以上の懲役又は禁錮等に処せられた場合等(「懲役刑等(1年以上)」)の上陸拒否期間は無期限(長期拒否)

Frankly, with a record of a violent crime and no Japanese spouse/children or foreign spouse/children who are legally in Japan, I would guess your chances are near zero.
Pardon? Why should I lie? I don't see any reason in that.
And why are you so harsh to me in every single post you reply me? If you don't like me for whatever reason, nobody is forcing you to read the tread. Really don't understand all this hate. what can I say more... Are you Japanese and working for immigration?

Anyway, thank's a lot for the pdf! I'll read it carefully.
 
wait! I have this pdf already.
But it doesn't say about the holes in their system (according to the lawyers), of course.
Immigration doesn't know I have a 2nd citizenship.
I never went in Japan with the 2nd passport since 2002, when the wasn't fingerprinting at all...
I never declared I have a 2nd citizenship.

NOW: if they have a special database for those with criminal records, regardless the nationality, that's another story. but I don't know, nobody, even the lawyer, the embassy couldn't answer my clearly... That's what I wanna know.

and for the note:上陸拒否期間
日本国又は日本国以外の法令に違反して1年以上の懲役又は禁錮等に処せられた場合等(「懲役刑等(1年以上)」)の上陸拒否期間は無期限(長期拒否)

If I didn't know about this, do you think I would ask for help?
 
Semi-OT: recently the football player Messi was sentenced to 21 months of forced labour. He and his father got the probation, if I'm not mistaken, of 3 years.
Technically both cannot enter in Japan for life, from now on.
Right? Well, I wanna see if they'll deny his entering to the country, when he will have to play some match in Tokyo... I'm very curious!
 
but I don't know, nobody, even the lawyer, the embassy couldn't answer my clearly... That's what I wanna know.

I think this is because the government does not want (foreign) citizens to know their homeland security details. Imagine the potential danger of convicted terrorists knowing this.

recently the football player Messi was sentenced to 21 months of forced labour. He and his father got the probation, if I'm not mistaken, of 3 years.
Technically both cannot enter in Japan for life, from now on.
Right? Well, I wanna see if they'll deny his entering to the country, when he will have to play some match in Tokyo... I'm very curious!

Yes, but this was in Spain. I don't know how this translates to Japanese immigration?
 
It doesn't matter. For Japanese immigration, everyone sentenced more than 12 months, in every country of the world, it will be denied the entry in Japan, permanently.

Funny that Maradona could enter in 2002, for the world Cup games. After a first denial, days later they let him in.
Ahhh. The power of fame and money.
 
It doesn't matter. For Japanese immigration, everyone sentenced more than 12 months, in every country of the world, it will be denied the entry in Japan, permanently.

Funny that Maradona could enter in 2002, for the world Cup games. After a first denial, days later they let him in.
Ahhh. The power of fame and money.

Now that's something your lawyers should look into. I imagine that if people with the same conditions as yours have been admitted again, your lawyer can fight it based on precedent.
 
wait! I have this pdf already.
But it doesn't say about the holes in their system (according to the lawyers), of course.
Immigration doesn't know I have a 2nd citizenship.
I never went in Japan with the 2nd passport since 2002, when the wasn't fingerprinting at all...
I never declared I have a 2nd citizenship.

NOW: if they have a special database for those with criminal records, regardless the nationality, that's another story. but I don't know, nobody, even the lawyer, the embassy couldn't answer my clearly... That's what I wanna know.

and for the note:上陸拒否期間
日本国又は日本国以外の法令に違反して1年以上の懲役又は禁錮等に処せられた場合等(「懲役刑等(1年以上)」)の上陸拒否期間は無期限(長期拒否)

If I didn't know about this, do you think I would ask for help?

I have already told you that your whole `second citizenship" idea is pure idiocy. I didn't link the pdf thinking it would give you some information about that idiotic idea.

Regardless of the nature of databases, citizenship, or passports, YOU as an individual are a convicted criminal and banned from entering Japan. You would have to knowingly LIE about being a convicted criminal when you try to reenter Japan. You are simply hoping you won't get caught BREAKING IMMIGRATION LAW. Are you seriously so delusional or ignorant that you think you could tell the immigration authorities when they catch you, "Oh, I was a convicted criminal as a citizen of Country X.... I'm here as a citizen of Country Y this time so you have to let me in"? Do you really think any sane person is going to go along with that lunacy? Do you not think there are domestic records of your fingerprints in a criminal database? Or records of your being thrown out of Japan? Or being banned from entering again? Are you not aware of the new national tracking system in Japan? Even if by some miracle you bluffed your way through the airport, you're certain to get caught and this time they'll probably let you actually serve time in prison before they deport you again.

Your imagined "loophole", if it exists will only temporarily delay your arrest and deportation, not magically make it legal for you to enter Japan. You need special landing permission or you can forget about it. Period. End of story.

If you already had the pdf, then why were you speaking here as though you were totally unaware of the 上陸特別許可 process?
 
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Good morning. 😅
First at all, I would like to thank you again for your time. Despite you being stern in my regards (but that's ok), you are still here "trying to wake me up" and being realistic (by your point of view).

Ok let's go on:

I have already told you that your whole `second citizenship" idea is pure idiocy. I didn't link the pdf thinking it would give you some information about that idiotic idea.


So why, those 2 lawyers I contacted online and PAID them, aren't of the same opinion?
So if their idea is idiotic, they told me that just in order to give me a tiny kind of hope? And fool me, just to get some money out from me?
Can I ask you why are you so sure about your point of view?

You would have to knowingly LIE about being a convicted criminal when you try to reenter Japan. You are simply hoping you won't get caught BREAKING IMMIGRATION LAW.

Does it mean I have to accept any law like a sheep, without trying to fight for my freedom on this Earth and my sentimental situation?
The law can be bypassed, NOT NECESSARILY BROKEN!

Are you seriously so delusional or ignorant that you think you could tell the immigration authorities when they catch you, "Oh, I was a convicted criminal as a citizen of Country X.... I'm here as a citizen of Country Y this time so you have to let me in"? Do you really think any sane person is going to go along with that lunacy?

I would never say but the truth, about my gf situation and our love.
And I won't expect to be understood and receive any sort of clemency from Japanese immigration. LOL
They are there to check over us and purge as much as many foreigners from their beloved and special Country.
You would answer: "well, what do you expect from them, if that is their job"?
That's the sad point.
Unlikely other countries (for example Australia), they are specifically trained to don't feel any empathy and sympathy towards us. Their supervisors brainwash them to the point, to see us just a like an extreme burden and to get rid of us, as soon as they have the chance. (and brainwashing an average Japanese, it's simplier than you might think.LOL)
That is what one Japanese friend told me, working at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Even them, yes, regular Japanese people, hate the immigration... LOL
They are simply a pack of brainwashed dogs, trained to hate us. Also, did you know that at immigration, they hire people by several tests, selecting only those with ideas of "extreme right wings" parties? Is it just a coincidence? LOL
Source: same guy, as above.

wait...now I realized... why I'm wasting my time telling you all these infos? 🤦
I know already, it will irritate you further and you will start attacking, offending, mocking me over and over, rather than try to give some advices. But I already have written it, so...

But I don't dislike you. It's just your personality and I don't take it personally.

Do you not think there are domestic records of your fingerprints in a criminal database? Or records of your being thrown out of Japan? Or being banned from entering again?


Of course I know. But, nobody could tell me, yet, certainly at 100% if those database are in a special directory, or just connected to that specific passport...
That's what I'm asking over and over. But nobody could tell me for sure, despite some people with 2 passports made it. The only thing I'm sure about is that a 50%~50% gamble.
This counts for 90-days visa, only. On higher level visa, I'm sure they would find out, soon or later. That's for sure, but ain't interested in them.

Are you not aware of the new national tracking system in Japan?

You mean the "My Number" stuff? Yes I'm aware of that. But does it apply also for 90-days visa holders?
Because my plan, as I said is not to live there steadily anymore but, rather, going there couple times a years (my job allows me that), for 2-3 months per time, to help my gf and trying, in the meanwhile, to find a solution how to grab her out from Japan with me, painlessly (for her and her parents).
That's why I'm so delusional. I won't allow a Country, to deny me to be with someone I love, whatever it will cost. But first I'm trying to understand if there is any, at least, safe or safer way. If not, I'll find some other solutions.

Yeah, yeah... I'll tell myself before you assault me: I'm a criminal, who is trying to break the law, I'm delusional, ignorant, lunatic, insane, and... what else? Up to you. :D
I, repeat! You can offend me as much as you want, yet I didn't come in this forum to be simply judged, over and over. I hoped in simple advices. If you cannot help, well thank you anyway for your time, but I'll never give up the idea to help my gf and her parents.
Attacking and mocking me, will not change my determination to stay with her. But go on, if it makes you feel better... :D

Even if by some miracle you bluffed your way through the airport, you're certain to get caught and this time they'll probably let you actually serve time in prison before they deport you again.

Again, what makes you so certain about that?
I'm just planning to spend my time in her hometown at her home, taking care of her parents and looking for a solution. From there, everything is much easier.
Or should I fear every second a raid from some sort of Japanese SWAT, like in GTA game? LOL :D

Your imagined "loophole", if it exists will only temporarily delay your arrest and deportation, not magically make it legal for you to enter Japan.

"Imagined". Again... how can you be so sure?

You need special landing permission or you can forget about it. Period. End of story.

You gave me a great info! You see? Being stubborn helped me a bit to get some new info. I'll ask my lawyer about these "special landing permissions", to check more deeply in that. Thank you!!!!

If you already had the pdf, then why were you speaking here as though you were totally unaware of the 上陸特別許可 process?

Did I give you this idea? It's from the first post I said that my life in JP is over. I got that info just in 2016, by calling the embassy (I wrote it, some posts above). That's why I was shocked. Then, I'll started asking if somebody knew a way to get in, with the second citizenship, and NOBODY could answer me clearly. Even after contacting 2 lawyers online and recently by looking for advices from this forum.
And surely I'll continue going deep into it. I am a person who does not give up that easily.


Anyway... this is my last post I reply you. I'm getting tired trying to justify my actions, over and over, rather than get some "tips and tricks". Without counting how many times you offended me.
But thank you, anyway, for your time. Better 1000x times being insulted than ignored. At least, at the end, you told me about these sort of special landing permissions, for which I'll sweat blood and tears. Thank you.
 
Now that's something your lawyers should look into. I imagine that if people with the same conditions as yours have been admitted again, your lawyer can fight it based on precedent.

Thank you for your kindness, you are really a nice person. 😅
But just couple hours ago, the user Mike Cash told me that exist some kind of "special landing permissions".
I'll go deep into that!
Thanks a lot again, for your kindness and sobriety in my regards and for your will to help me! 😅
 
cocoichi wrote:
Now that's something your lawyers should look into. I imagine that if people with the same conditions as yours have been admitted again, your lawyer can fight it based on precedent.
That would be promising if Japan worked its law system on precedents. It doesn't.
 
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