Need a word or phrase translated?
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～させてもらう is a humble expression of する, i.e., 上げさせてもらう means 上げる. Two interpretation, 僕のギアを上げる and 君のギアを上げる, are both possible. (Probably you can judge which interpretation is more appropriate from the context.)
DWolfs
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- 21 Jan 2013
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Thanks for your response Toritoribe.
I have another line that I find ambiguous. Context is father and son are talking in front of the tomb of their mother/wife about how the son is planning to take the world title (or something similar at least):
オトン: 決心は変わらんのか...
息子: 変わりませんよ...
息子: もちろん負ける気はないっすよ...
I understand the whole conversation, except I'm not sure if he means "there's no use in going any further" or "it can't be helped that I keep on going" when he says 「これ以上続けてもしゃあない」.
Thank you in advance.
I have another line that I find ambiguous. Context is father and son are talking in front of the tomb of their mother/wife about how the son is planning to take the world title (or something similar at least):
オトン: 決心は変わらんのか...
息子: 変わりませんよ...
テッペンがとれんかったら、これ以上続けてもしゃあないでしょ。
ガキの頃から今まで... それだけを目標にやってきたんやから...
あいつに実力が届かんようやったら...
リングの上で引退宣言しますよ。
オトン: そうか...ガキの頃から今まで... それだけを目標にやってきたんやから...
あいつに実力が届かんようやったら...
リングの上で引退宣言しますよ。
息子: もちろん負ける気はないっすよ...
オカンが世界一の空手家や言うてた男に20年以上空手叩き込まれたんやもん...
勝つよ... オトン...
オトン: 当たり前や。勝つよ... オトン...
I understand the whole conversation, except I'm not sure if he means "there's no use in going any further" or "it can't be helped that I keep on going" when he says 「これ以上続けてもしゃあない」.
Thank you in advance.
- 22 Feb 2008
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The former interpretation is correct.
Hey there,
I've got a couple of lines that I'm not quite sure I'm reading correctly; context is, we've two old friends, one a soldier and the other an outlaw turned revolutionary, who, having been together until a few months ago, find themselves at odds.
Soldier) お願いです、抵抗を止めて投降してください
Outlaw) 君の頼みでも、それは出来んね。君も変わってしまったって事か。
Is the underlined part meant as the outlaw saying that the his former-friend has changed so much, that he can't bring himself to trust him and accept his request to surrender?
Following that, the scene continues until this conversation:
Soldier)世界を混乱させる存在である以上、放置しておくわけにはいかない。覚悟してもらおう。
Outlaw)そうやって秩序の名の下に異物は排除しようって考えは御免だな。あんたが相手だろうとそれは貫かせてもらおうか！
Is the phrase above the outlaw saying that, even if he has to fight his former friend, he won't allow him to continue with his plan on purge his group in the name of order?
Thanks for the help.
I've got a couple of lines that I'm not quite sure I'm reading correctly; context is, we've two old friends, one a soldier and the other an outlaw turned revolutionary, who, having been together until a few months ago, find themselves at odds.
Soldier) お願いです、抵抗を止めて投降してください
Outlaw) 君の頼みでも、それは出来んね。君も変わってしまったって事か。
Is the underlined part meant as the outlaw saying that the his former-friend has changed so much, that he can't bring himself to trust him and accept his request to surrender?
Following that, the scene continues until this conversation:
Soldier)世界を混乱させる存在である以上、放置しておくわけにはいかない。覚悟してもらおう。
Outlaw)そうやって秩序の名の下に異物は排除しようって考えは御免だな。あんたが相手だろうとそれは貫かせてもらおうか！
Is the phrase above the outlaw saying that, even if he has to fight his former friend, he won't allow him to continue with his plan on purge his group in the name of order?
Thanks for the help.
mariocassan
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Hi, a friend of mine sent me a phrase I haven't been able to translate. Could you help me? Thanks a lot!
"Ōkina gyappu ga aru Watashi wa chōdo anata ga tsuyoku natte kita koto o negatte imasu"
大きなギャップがある私はちょうどあなたが強くなってきた事を願っています。
Taking some liberties to make it work in english, I believe this is what it entails: There's a big difference/gap between the two of us, so I hope you've gotten stronger (and closed some of that difference/gap).
mariocassan
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Thanks a lot!
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Are "those" people or are they objects? It makes a difference.
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Thanks
- 22 Feb 2008
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The outlaw feels the soldier has changed because the soldier said such a thing (= お願いです、抵抗を止めて投降してください). I.e., the soldier's change is not the reason the outlaw can't trust him.
Do you mean "even if the outlaw has to fight his former friend, the outlaw won't allow the soldier to continue with the soldier's plan on purge the outlaw's group in the name of order"?
FYI, the writer is not a native Japanese speaker.
Ah, so the first line would be akin to "You've changed (putting this first to make it a reaction to what the soldier said)...still, I can't do it, even if you ask."?
As for the second line, yes, that's what I've been reading it as.
- 22 Feb 2008
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That's right.
貫かせてもらおう is the volitional form of 貫かせてもらう, and 貫かせてもらう is a humble expression of 貫く. (This is a kind of rhetorical usage here. So it's actually a strong assertion.) Thus, the subject of 貫く is the outlaw, not the soldier. He declares that he sticks to his principle/belief "そうやって秩序の名の下に異物は排除しようって考えは御免だ" even if he has to fight his former friend.
DWolfs
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- 21 Jan 2013
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This is from the same conversation that I posted a few days ago. I think I got all of it, but the last big sentence keeps eluding me.
オカンが世界一の空手家や言うてた男に20年以上空手叩き込まれたんやもん...
I get the feeling a few particles are missing here... Can someone tell me what it means?
Thank you in advance.
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Kansai speech, looks like it is missing a と and an を.
オカンが世界一の空手家だと言ってた男に20年以上空手を叩き込まれたんだもん
Okan had karate pounded into him for over twenty years by a guy who claimed to be the number one karate dude in the world.
You might consider starting a thread for ongoing stuff...
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Thank you. I didn't look at anything except the sentence which appeared in isolation when I hit "reply".
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I'll have to edit mine too.
He had karate pounded into him for over twenty years by a guy she (Mother) claimed was the world's number one karate dude.
That's a summation, not a translation.
- 22 Feb 2008
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And オカンが世界一の空手家だと言ってた男 would refer to オトン, i.e., dad.
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My wife has never said a good word about me in all the years we've been together, so there was no chance I would spot that!
羨ましい....
