Just a word of wise for you, don't use "Islamic Arabia", Caliphate was anti-nationalist, anti Fascist, anti tribal centric government entity. The center of knowledge like Cordoba, Samarkand, Constantinople, were not been overwhelm by Arabs and are not Arabic country. So do many great figure in Islam from Salahudin Al Ayyubi or as you know as Saladin, Muhammad Al Fatih, Yavus Sultan Selim, and thousand more even millions of them are not Arabs.
We are cross national boundaries brotherhood, that Spread from China to Spain under the way of Islam. You will not also say Ottoman was an Arabic Caliphate that totally blunder, not also a Turkish Caliphate, another blunder, it's Muslim Caliphate that been given bai'ath or oath by the muslim all over the world, from Indonesia to Bosnia, from Albania to Somalia, from the blackest of the black peoples to whitest of the white peoples.
The reason of our fall is the conspiracy of British and French propaganda, injecting nationalist idea from a man like Arthur Lumney, also the backing for the establishment nationalist feudal of Hejaz, the salafi Saudi Kingdom.
My advice, study the history of Islam goodly from a muslim author. I tell you something good, a history is a discourse and discipline of knowledge that man mostly poorly educate or wrongly educate that create miss conception and miss understanding in both present and future.
Don't get offense from this advice I mean no offense just a sharing for you. I know person like you will happy to get this.
This girl may be an activist, but she only fought for free speech and equal rights for women. The taliban are against that and shot her for it.
In my opinion she is a heroine and a martyr. Braver than I'll ever be.
The taliban are against civilisation itself, is how I see it: against music and entertainment, free speech, education for women, against science and technological progress, against art,... the list goes on.
Al qaida and the taliban are responsible for killing more muslim people than the rest of the world combined.
I am no fan of what the US (and allies) did in Iraq; it is a country calling itself a state of law unworthy. But if the NATO war in Afghanistan is able to defeat the taliban, at least some good would come out of it over there. Though every innocent victim is one too many. It is all too easy to say this is a price these people must pay for their freedom. That is not fair.
This is a very difficult matter, and honestly I don't know what to think of it. But seeing the taliban for what they are, I know what side I'm taking.
The taliban is the opposite of the accomplishments, the ancient Arabic world stood for. As a man of science, I think the majority of the muslim world has much to be proud of. And the nations of the west would never have evolved as they have without Islamic Arabia.
I hope one day this ancient spirit of education, discovery and humanism will be sparked anew in the middle east, because nowadays I barely see a trace of it.
Just my opinion.
Look Waribald. If you think American war in Afghanistan is an emancipatory war you don't need to get the war till finish to figure it out that it isn't.
The installation of the new government it already done, and it is corrupt and similar with other puppet government, which they were reluctant and been install to serve the US interest only, as they gave up all of their natural resources to both MNC and TNC company in exchange for the luxury and free corruption for their family. This is not at all something news.
The corruption and crime of Karzai government goes in the peak of embarrassing and cruse-able government as they serve they interest also on poppies trafficking to poison the youth all over the world with heroin.
I'm talking about a business that worth trillion of dollar and benefit them for millions of dollar. Only with these fact you will not say and justify that the US war in Afghanistan is a emancipatory war, it was and it is an imperialist war that serve no interest except the interest of group of peoples that is not at all a good peoples.
It not even serve their own national interest, because actually American government give no care about the american, they are nothing but tax payer and un-aware citizen that been manipulated by their government.
There lots of myth about Taliban, which back then I also in the side of those who believe that myth as many peoples believe it now in faith some other with fanatic believe but ironically they think they are knowledgeable and moderate in the issue.
My finger is ready to point out any of Taliban miss conduct as I ready also to point out any of US and it allies miss conduct. I will not stand here as many peoples stand except few peoples over here, "right or wrong is my country. Right or wrong is my peoples. right or wrong is my allies" that is fanaticism. I will stand for "right is right, wrong is wrong".
First myth, Taliban use drug trafficking and support their economy with drugs.
Aren't any of you remember who is the one successfully ban and burn the cultivation of Opium in Afghanistan that provide more than 75 percent of the total of world opium supplies? It was the
Taliban who ban it and successfully burn it and mark it as illegal. Taliban as political entity was the most prestigious at their campaign against drugs, UN also note that and want a part of the cake that they help the taliban, while they are not.
US war black campaign on black goating their opponent with false information is not at all a new thing. As I told above did you remember on how the US accuse Iraqis soldier feeding babies in car incubator? Then peoples believe that and raging about that, while the witness is one of the ambassador relatives that later it known that she were made a false witnesses upon this things just to downgrade the opponent of US and to give a moral reason for their army to wage war and to gain the moral support of the world, that they are the force of good versusing the foce of evil Iraqis soldier that feeding babies in Incubator.
Just search that things it is easy to find, you'll find it, no need for me to get it for u isn't it?
How can they made up such things such stupid things and peoples believe in it? Because most of peoples don't use their mind, they just believe and stay away from controversial stand that goes against the opinion of majority while most of the case the opinion of majority is been manipulated by the popular flow that been won by the effect of mainstream media while the true mostly remain in controversial position, only those who have principal and fairness that able to stand for the truth while it not prevail, and God willing I stand for it.
Dr Khetab Kakar, Director of SJA Hospital stated in the time of Taliban not even Opium there even no drug addicts, as those who cultivate, consume, distribute poppies is been punish to death by the Taliban. While the opium is again been flourish and increase in production also the addiction of Afghan peoples in opium are increase in each territories that been invade by NATO.
Funny isn't it? that is the fact, take it or leave it. Let me give you some clue.
Yesterday, Britain cultivate drugs in Gujarat and sell it to all over the war, include to China, this is a big business. Don't believe me? See how they acquire Hong Kong for hundred year also the successful invasion on China were due to how they sell drugs to the chinese until they rich nation goes to bankrupt.
Today. The US collaborate with Russian Mafia and Afghani Mafia cultivate Poppies in Afghanistan and sell it whole over the world. The occupation of the US to Afghanistan is count not long after Mullah Omar burn more then 90 percent of the total poppies in Afghanistan. Of course they lost trillions dollar profit because the halal and haram of Taliban domestic policies, they need to invade and settle new government over there that more cooperative for US favor.
So Taliban and the drugs things are nothing but myth.
Second Myth, women are forbid to go to school under Taliban rule
Mr Blair talking about the evil Taliban, that this nation are so evil they don't even let their kids to fly a kite. What he and Bush not told us yet is, how the Taliban feed their babies for dog food and put them in dark basement and let them sleep above the broken glasses, if they say you so will you believe it oh you peoples?
While all of us here seating in the cozy chair, and see the event that kill 19 peoples that been shot in the theater as tragedy, non of us know the reality of the war.
In war a thousand of peoples die been killed and that not even be call a tragedy that not even worth enough to be put in CNN.
We only believe what the tv told us to believe. TV is the truth for most of peoples, TV is the prophet, while their nation is their God and nationality is their religion. And false emancipatory war is their religious teaching, hating the enemy of the state is their moral conduct.
Look, I will show you the reality, we don't have any idea what happen over there, most of peoples they just heard what the TV told them and they believe, as we muslim say "Wa samai'na wa taotna" or we heard and we obey, but this is just for God. And TV is no God.
Yvonne Riddley have more knowledge than any of us here right now, as she come to investigate taliban, leave UK as someone who hate Taliban to go to Afghanistan, and live among the Afghani. She say funnily as she goes there and expect to see oppression of women but what she find over there is it really arguably women over there are far then been oppress.
She ask one of the villagers, about the pre-war condition, she say she was so sad and angry because she cannot continue her medical studies in university as the university now been closed by the Taliban because the condition before war they don't want her to get hurt. And Yvonne pretty shock about knowing that women actually go to university and study medicine in under Taliban rule.
Long story short, I urge someone who like to know the truth about Taliban, watch this :
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I want to continue to talk, but I have things to do I will reply the other thread also later
outch !
