として / っちゃいました / なのに / 公園にいた鳩

[eeky]

Hi,

1. 勉強すればきっと上手になるはずだ。
（結果としてそうならなくても、論理的にはそうだ。）

(The second sentence is explaining the use of はずだ in the first.)

I'm guessing that that the second sentence means something like "Even if that result [i.e. becoming good at something] doesn't happen, logically it ought to." In other words, emphasising that はずだ means something ought to or should happen.

However, I don't fully understand the first part of the sentence, especially the purpose of として.


2. あう～、あたしったらまたドジっちゃいました。

Translation given: "Ahh, silly me, I've messed up again."

What is っちゃいました? I assume it's something to do with しまう, but what? Is it a contraction of V-てしまいました for some verb?


3. こんなに青空なのに、雨が降るはずがありませんよ。

Although I suppose this means "With this blue sky, it can't possibly rain", I'm not very clear how ～なのに provides an appropriate link between the two parts. How does that bit work?


4. 不思議なことに、きのうまで公園にいた鳩が一羽もいな くなった。そして、猫も一匹もいなくなった。

My translation: "Amazingly, all the pigeons that were in the park until yesterday disappeared. Then all the cats disappeared too."

Is this right? I'm not sure I understand the logic of this. Is it implying that the cats followed the pigeons? The cats only went to the park to hunt pigeons? Some pest control service removed both the pigeons and the cats ... ???


5. 貴重な思い出料としては安いものですよ。

Translation given: "That'll make for a memorable time."

I can't match the Japanese to the translation. In what sense are 料 and 安い being used?

 

[Toritoribe]

1)
結果として is an adverbial phrase.

結果としてそうなる
Something will happen as a result.

2)
Right. That's ドジってしまいました. The noun ドジ is verbalized, just like ミスる（＝失敗する）, 事故る（＝事故を起こす）. These are rather colloquial expressions.

3)
はずがない denies 青空なのに、雨が降る.

4)
そして seems to mean just "and" to me. The sentence just says that the two facts were happened.

5)
The speaker spent some money, or maybe his/her time, effort or like that for something they are talking about. He/She said that the cost is inexpensive for the (good) memory.

 

[eeky]

Thanks Toritoribe.

3)
はずがない denies 青空なのに、雨が降る.

Oh, is のに used more in the sense of "when"? So it means "It's impossible for it to rain when the sky is blue"?

 

[Toritoribe]

のに is an adversative conjunction.

Inspite of the blue sky, it rains.

 

[eeky]

I have no problem with こんなに青空なのに、雨が降る meaning "It's raining in spite of the blue sky", like you say. But what is はずがない adding? You said it denies 青空なのに、雨が降る, so wouldn't that mean it actually isn't raining? Or does it mean it is raining, but it shouldn't be?

Sorry to be so slow about this one, and thanks for your continued patience!

 

[Toritoribe]

Ah, I see your point. Indeed, 青空なのに、雨が降るはずがない can mean both "it can't rain, so it doesn't rain" and "it can't rain, nevertheless it is raining". The key is the sentence final particle よ. This is for the assertion of the speaker's opinion. So, he/she said "It's impossible to rain, don't warry" or something along the line. (If this is used in a situation where it's seemingly raining, e.g., the sound of the rain is heard, the ground is wet, etc, he/she means "It can't be the rain. This must be something other than rain". It would be a rare situation, though.)

 

[eeky]

I see, thank you.

 

[Mike Cash]

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