japanese sound
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undrentide
Japa'n vagyok
- 18 Jan 2006
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It is not really the changes of word but more of the changes of pronunciation.
A very simple explanation is that saying "k" twice needs extra efforts* and it is much easier to put two kk together.
I hope you can feel the difference by saying "gakukou" and "gakkou" yourself several times...
*The sound [k] is voiceless velar stop
Voiceless velar plosive - Wikipedia
This kind of "change" is not particular to Japanese language;
Connected speech and coarticulation
Glenn
一切皆苦
- 8 Jan 2004
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That's an interesting essay, there, undrentide. It also explains the devoicing of /i/ and /u/ in Japanese pretty well, and that they are actually there, even if you don't really hear them. Every time I think of examples of that, the word 業務上過失致死 comes to mind, where the end just sounds like a bunch of "sh" and "ch" strung together.
Along those lines, it's interesting, although I suppose not too surprising, to see that even in English sentences where sounds seem to go missing, we're actually making at least an attempt to produce them. I'm not sure I've ever thought about it in those terms, but it makes sense now that it's been pointed out. Also, I didn't realize that all the vowels in "morning" were nasalized before reading that. Haha, I keep saying it to check, and sure enough!
Along those lines, it's interesting, although I suppose not too surprising, to see that even in English sentences where sounds seem to go missing, we're actually making at least an attempt to produce them. I'm not sure I've ever thought about it in those terms, but it makes sense now that it's been pointed out. Also, I didn't realize that all the vowels in "morning" were nasalized before reading that. Haha, I keep saying it to check, and sure enough!
- 22 Feb 2008
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Yeah, interesting indeed. Probably the followings can be examples of "private set of rules in Japanese".
作曲[○sakkyoku sakukyoku]
試作曲[○shisakukyoku shisakkyoku]
引っ込む[○hikkomu hikikomu](Both are possible, but the meanings are different.)
引越し[○hikkoshi hikikoshi]
引込み線[○hikikomisen hikkomisen]
引籠り[○hikikomori hikkomori]
作曲[○sakkyoku sakukyoku]
試作曲[○shisakukyoku shisakkyoku]
引っ込む[○hikkomu hikikomu](Both are possible, but the meanings are different.)
引越し[○hikkoshi hikikoshi]
引込み線[○hikikomisen hikkomisen]
引籠り[○hikikomori hikkomori]
- 22 Feb 2008
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Exactly. Probably this issue has much to do with when 連濁 or 連声 happens.
