Is the SCO a threat to Japan?

[Scotty P.]

SCO​

What is the SCO
The Shanghai Cooperation Organization was founded on the grounds of regional cooperation, particularly between China and Russia with 3 key energy producing Central Asian states. The Chinese and Russians promised that it wouldn't be a military alliance aimed at any particular state, group or organization. However in 2007 those countries had joint military games coined "Peace Mission 2007". The title couldn't be any more ironic. Most analysts agree that this was aimed at Taiwan or possible even Japan. Since one of the imaginary missions was to invade an island. It is no secret that there are some territorial tensions between Japan and China over some islands which promise a wealth in resources.
Future enlargement of SCO
Pakista, India and Iran have observer status. There are currently 6 members of SCO. On 24th March, 2008, Iran applied for membership of SCO. India is also likely to join in the near future, due to fears arch-foe Pakistan may join first.
How Democratic and Peaceful is the SCO?
India and China both are ranked amongst some of the most corrupt countries on the planet. I believe India is 74th and China 73rd. Both rank poorly on the peace index and so does Russia. With Iran eventually becoming a member, a disaster is more than likely to be waiting for all people of Asia, not only Japan. With SCO in power, much of Central Asia's people and energy will be in the hands of the corrupt.
Japan?
What's the future of Japan in your opinion? I would say, not very good. Japan has no powerful military and even if it did, it couldn't dare to touch SCO ever. Japan has only soft power and no hard power. How long can Japan's soft power approach with an increasingly powerful China and SCO? How long can Japan support the soft power approach with declining economic future? What's awaiting Japan?

Japan is the US's bank.

Do you really think the US would allow Russia to rob or take over it's bank without a bloody fight?

China is too supplied and too dependant upon US exported goods to provoke a fight.

If it had not been for the US supplies, equipment, training, and trade embargos on Japan in WWII , China would BE Japan right now.

If they were not equiped to take care of and supply themselves, nor smart enough to defend themselves from a tiny nation that could barely feed it's soldiers, what makes you think they would stand any chance fighting the USA?

 

[3aw]

If Taiwan and China continue to develop ever closer ties like this article states:

 

[caster51]

USA is cheated by china

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | China 'will not have democracy'
In China, No Plans to Emulate West's Way (Published 2009)
IMF will be China's...
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[Pachipro]

You post some pretty good points Scotty, but I do not have the time to debate you as I leave for Japan shortly, but if this thread is still open when I get back, I'll have a reply as it is worth debating why Japan is the puppet of the US and succumbs to the will of the US.

You may want to view this website (http://www.trilateral.org/about.htm) as the Trilateral Comission just met in Tokyo last week and I wonder what they talked about. It will be a week or so before it is leaked out, but I guarantee it was not good and will further prove that Japan is a puppet of the US and gives them money for the asking to keep them from going bankrupt as they are a creditor nation while the US is a debtor nation.

I'll add more later.

 

[bakaKanadajin]

To add to that, Scotty, China holds trillions in US dollars and is also a large consumer of US debt. I don't think China is as pocketed by the US as some think. All they have to do is decide the US no longer serves as a viable investment and dump their US currency into the market in favour of something else and the dollar instantly devalues and inflates and the US economy goes down the john. Whether that's realistic or not I don't know, that's nearly equivalent to dropping a nuke in terms of economic warfare. But yea, China is callusive and is definitely working towards a more US-independent global status. Whether they'll be brought harmoniously under the NWO umbrella is yet to be seen.

 

[4321go]

IMO, The two will sink and rise together~

 

[Elizabeth]

SCO​

What is the SCO
The Shanghai Cooperation Organization was founded on the grounds of regional cooperation, particularly between China and Russia with 3 key energy producing Central Asian states.

This is a joke, right ? China's ONLY interest in the alliance is to maintain the long-term politics of authoritarianism in the region by controling its Western frontier, starting with Tibet, and replacing Russia as the regional hegemon in Central Asia. They are also looking to counter American influence in Afghanistan and Pakistan by establishing military relations throughout the region. The only question is how long Russia will allow a regional subordination to China through economic integration and security cooperation to go unprovoked ?

So, in short, not a particular threat to Japan. Whatever "Spirit of Shanghai" convergence of interests or power dynamics brought SCO members together initially will eventually collapse along along lines of pragmatic nationalism, as concerts of Autocracies always do.

 

[Astroboy]

Whatever "Spirit of Shanghai" convergence of interests or power dynamics brought SCO members together initially will eventually collapse along along lines of pragmatic nationalism, as concerts of Autocracies always do.

"Spirit of Shanghai" must be good. I also advise China to tie with European Union for developing "Spirit of Paris or Berlin or Beijing". As far as China's toxic foods do not head for Japan, all is fine.