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america isnt as bad as the media makes it out to be
however we ARE the melting pot. so many different ppl coming together causes strife
titmouse posted
I don't think America is bad at all. It would depend on where you live. My parents still usually don't lock their doors during the day, but they live in a medium sized town, not a city.
People lock their doors here in Tokyo, and my wife doesn't like me to leave the bedroom window open at night (though personally I would like to see a Japanese burglar try and come in through the window. I would have no compunction about reminding him about the law of graivty).
quoting a statistic like that without any sense of context or relevant information is a misuse of the figure. Crime statistics is aren't an accurate representation of what life is like... anywhere.defintely Japan , crime rate is very low compared to US
Safer from what? assault? being shot? pickpockets? being falsely accused of a crime myself? I've never been the victim of assault in either country, but that doesn't mean I'm not still vigilant. I HAVE been falsely accused of a crime in Japan, so should I be more worried that it would happen again? If I were a girl, should I feel more or less safe from sexual assault on the train? Should my perceived safety be affected by the fact that trains are far more common in Japan?but you can't tell me that you feel safer walking around in our city compared to when we were in Japan...
crap, lost my response. cliffnotes version.
Safer from what? assault? being shot? pickpockets? being falsely accused of a crime myself? I've never been the victim of assault in either country, but that doesn't mean I'm not still vigilant. I HAVE been falsely accused of a crime in Japan, so should I be more worried that it would happen again? If I were a girl, should I feel more or less safe from sexual assault on the train? Should my perceived safety be affected by the fact that trains are far more common in Japan?
Japan and the US are very different countries, and there are a lot more factors to crime than the mere number of incidents. How do you even begin to establish an equal scale with which to relate the two? Use samplings of areas with similar population density? Categorize by types of crime? What about things that are illegal in one country and not the other, do they still count? Do you think Lotusflower took any of this into consideration when she posted?
Statistics without context is data. Data is not information, and inferences made from data alone are uninformed ones.
Well done for this nice classic predictable answer like trying to defend! so... well, Japan is pretty much safer than USA and thats called common known fact
or some fancier english word. you dont have to categorize, check densities, do experiments or whatever.
i dont know why you get offended by that, trying to cover it with excuses and stuff.
if
it was for Greece instead of US i would again agree that Japan is safer too, even tho i havent been there but for these years of searching some stuff and participating in forums, i think i can tell. and data IS information man.
Most honest and intelligent reply yet.I cant really decide without having lived in both those places.
Plus, maybe I would like somewhere else better
It's possible to put yourself in a situation in both countries where you are just as susceptible to being the victim of a crime. Statistics can't predict the future.However, the chances I'm going to get shot, robbed, or be the victim of some sort of gangbang is pretty damn low in Japan compared to the US.
No, it is data. Or to be more succinct, data is not knowledge. What kind of understanding could you hope to have of any raw data if you don't know how it relates to anything else? I suggest you take a look at Information Anxiety, by Richard Saul Wurman.data IS information man
Well done for this nice classic predictable answer like trying to defend! so... well, Japan is pretty much safer than USA and thats called common known fact
or some fancier english word. you dont have to categorize, check densities, do experiments or whatever.
i dont know why you get offended by that, trying to cover it with excuses and stuff.
if
it was for Greece instead of US i would again agree that Japan is safer too, even tho i havent been there but for these years of searching some stuff and participating in forums, i think i can tell. and data IS information man.
It's possible to put yourself in a situation in both countries where you are just as susceptible to being the victim of a crime. Statistics can't predict the future.
The three crimes you quoted are good examples of contextless generalizations.
I wasn't asking for detailed statistics in earnest; I was using those questions to illustrate just how vague and non-informative a statistic out of context can be.Now I think you are just picking for anything, and I think you're missing the point in an attempt to be a bit TOO specific without even the tools at hand.
Of course they are contextless generalizations, they are simply examples of possible violent crimes. Neither of us are jumping into research studies or statistics so both of us are generalizing just as much as the other. If you want to switch in "stabbings" for "gunshot wounds" be my guest....
...Nothing is wrong with detail, but if you are focused exclusively on each little pinpoint to where you miss the picture as a whole, then you might need to take a deep breath and take a step back.
That's a perfectly valid way to feel, but is it because of crime statistics that you feel safer in Japan? Too often we seek false comfort in information taken out of context, and we lose sight of any real understanding of how or why the "facts" are what they are. As others have pointed out, perceived happiness includes a lot more than perceived safety, which includes a lot more than how many crimes are committed in a year.in general I feel much safer from violent crime and muggings walking alone through the streets of Tokyo at night than I do the streets of other major cities in the United States.