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Why Japan does not need to apologize to Korea

caster51 said:
it is not true
it is like that
Um.. So it is true because some dude on YouTube contradicts his mother..? This discussion is below any level of decency and critical thinking.
 
caster51 said:
they were sold to brothel by their family and agents bacause of poverty
locals( korean ,chinese)were running most brothels.
of corse japanese army managed to check sick like syphilis
Many African people sold their child to slave traders because of financial difficulties. Many parents were lied to though, being promised that their child will return after a period of time.
So going by your logic slavery is permitted?
 
【QAB琉球朝日放送での紹介】
http://www.qab.co.jp/01nw/05-10-14/index9.html
李玉善(イ・オクソン)さん。李さんは戦時中、旧日本軍にむりやり従軍慰安婦にさせられたひとりです。李さんは釜山生まれ。
15歳のとき、お使いに出かけ、路上で、日本人とchosun人のふたり組の男に突然、両脇を抱えられて連れ去られ、中国で慰安婦として働かされました。
【東京新聞での紹介】
http://www.tokyo-np.co.jp/kioku05/txt/20050729.html
軍慰安所の少女たちは皆、日本名で呼ばれていた。十四歳の李玉善(イ・オクソン)さん(78)は、この呼び名が嫌いだった。
(中略)
朝鮮半島東南の海辺の町、蔚山(ウルサン)。買い物に出かけた李さんが突然、見ず知らずの男たちに捕まり町から連れ去られたのは
一九四二年のことだ。貨物列車で連れて行かれたのは、中国東北部、延吉の日本軍駐屯地に置かれた慰安所。管理人を名乗る男から
着物と毛布を渡され、「これは借金だ。返すまで家には帰れない
」と言われた。
【JANJANでの紹介】
http://www.janjan.jp/world/0401/040126574/1.php?action=tree&PHPSESSID=d4499a4bb06bba1c5043b1ac274ba74fl
李玉善さんは1927年釜山で6人兄妹の長女として生まれた。家が大変貧しくて学校に行きたくても行けなかった。
14歳の時、お金が稼げるし、学校にも行かせてやると言われ、飲み屋の養女として売られたが、仕事がうまくできないと
雇い主からよく殴られた
。その後李さんはその店を解雇され、別の飲み屋に売られた。
ある日、店の人からお使いに出された時、日本人chosun人の男性2人に拉致され、行き先も告げられず無理やり
トラックに乗せられた。李さんが到着した場所は中国の延吉にある空軍部隊の飛行場だった。
【ナムヌの家】
http://excite.co.jp/world/korean/web/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nanum.org%2Fsub7%2Dmain1%5Fg8.htm&wb_lp=KOJA&wb_dis=2
(自分の親の)学校を送ってくれるという話は真っ赤な嘘だった. 養女でもなかった. chosun人主人はあらゆる下動きはもちろん
スルゾブデまでさせた. オックソンはお酒接待を拒否して二回も逃げてからブッザブヒョがなぐられたりした.
(中略)
朝鮮男 2人が手首をぱっと引っ張って
(以下略)
つまり、家が貧しくて朝鮮人が経営する店の下働きをさせられた。お酒の接待でのセクハラがいやで逃げ出したら、
ご主人に用無しということで、朝鮮人が経営する慰安所(売春宿)に売り飛ばされた。
 
So going by your logic slavery is permitted
?
No,
prostitution is the oldest business.
Japanese army did not need to know why they were prostitution

soldiers salary was 20 yen at that time.
their salary was 1000~1500yen
whenever they could go home...
their debt was about 1000 Yen
 
after war GHQ also invetigated Burma's case
most of them are just prostitutes..



anyway ,more than 80% of them were japanese.
they know reasons well because working togather
 
can I finish about forced confort women?
japanese army forced them?
how about forced labors?
Oh ..... more comical youtube.com amateur videos here
however it is very important.
korean was drafted since 1944 sep.
it means they came to japan voluntary to look for job

korean testimony is.......
 
about funny testimony...


 
caster51 said:
it means they came to japan voluntary to look for job

Today's Japan Zainichi Korean population are remaining descendants of forced relocation of Korean laborers to Japan in the early 20th century.

Present Japan PM Koizumi's father instrumentally repatriated nearly 1 million Japan's forced Korean laborer population back to N Korea in the 1950's.

Prime Minister Koizumi's maternal grandfather " master-minded " the assassination of warlord Chang Tso-Lin in Manchuria led to creation of Manchukuo puppet state in the 1930's,he was also the " godfather " of Black Dragon Society notorious known for operating illegal actitivies.

Your Japanese PM's family has blooded their hands,same as many today's Japanese political families with grandfathers were participants of Japan Empire.They surely don't want to execute the sins of their own forebears.
 
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Off topic a bit;

Originally Posted by caster51

it means they came to japan voluntary to look for job


That is like saying my father-in-law voluntarily went to China to fight in the war when he was 16 years old. Not quite.

If Japan hadn't annexed Korea none of this would have happened. Did you know there were Korean's killed here in Okinawa during the battle of Okinawa? They didn't come here "voluntarily" either.
 
caster51 said:
they were sold to brothel by their family and agents bacause of poverty
locals( korean ,chinese)were running most brothels.

Can you provide unforgerized documents back up your fictitious claim of those facilities operated by non-Japanese,or just silly cheap talk of yours ?

Most cases those women were rounded up by Japanese military personnel,assigned locations where they could provide " sex service ".

Japanese nationality was the " front-runner " of internationalized brothel trade in the early 20th century,1974 Japanese film " Sandakan No 8 " retold many thousand Japanese teen girls shipped to Borneo plus other islands in the South Pacific with false promise of fortunes.Local brothels there were run by Japanese mama-san's.
 
If Japan hadn't annexed Korea none of this would have happened
The Korean hoped for it, too.
it is easy for korean to turn over the palm of their hand.

Did you know there were Korean's killed here in Okinawa during the battle of Okinawa
OK
Then, the fact that a lot of Koreans and politician hoped for annexation is proven.
and the japanese did not want an annexation with poor korea ay that time.
I will show you many documments and pics.
 
caster51 said:
The Korean hoped for it, too.

OK
Then, the fact that a lot of Koreans and politician hoped for annexation is proven.
and the japanese did not want an annexation with poor korrea.
I will show you many documments and pics.

So.....I dont follow your point on this thread.

Why didnt Japan want to annex Korea? If that is the fact, then why did Japan annex Korea?
 
Hachiro said:
So.....I dont follow your point on this thread.

Why didnt Japan want to annex Korea? If that is the fact, then why did Japan annex Korea?

can you read japanese or korean?
at first Do you know Pm Ito opposed annexation?
 
caster51 said:
can you read japanese or korean?
at first Do you know Pm Ito opposed annexation?
I can only read "some" Japanese and "0" Korean. If that is the problem or explaination then please don't go to the trouble of posting it.

I have enough headaches at the moment, and really don't need another one working on translating a web site or web page.

Thanks anyway.
 
ricecake said:
Today's Japan Zainichi Korean population are remaining descendants of forced relocation of Korean laborers to Japan in the early 20th century.
Actually, it is not true.

Present Japan PM Koizumi's father instrumentally repatriated nearly 1 million Japan's forced Korean laborer population back to N Korea in the 1950's.
Some Japanese incl. media and politicians took the DPRK or your PRC as a heaven in the world then. The problem is that we still have the dreamers in Japan...
 
this pic was 一進会(korean politics party at that time)




today china is getting more power.
How is the United States said by them?
america invaded korea?

why are korean doing the witch hunting(pro-japan)?
what did pro-japanese do.? why so many?
they thought the best way was Annexation with japan.
 

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London times 1904
http://www.sam.hi-ho.ne.jp/s_suzuki/book_mirror.html
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Helen+Mears%E3%80%80japan+korea&fr=FP-tab-web-t413&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8
American diplomacy adviser of Korea
korean 一進会
korean diplomat 李成玉
 
Caster what does your last post have to do with whether or not Japan needs to apologize to Korea or not?

Korea didn't invade Japan. Japan invaded Korea right?

Japan attempted to annex China and the rest of southeast Asia as well, or is that a myth as well?

I don't follow what the point is you are trying to make here. Is Japan guilty of these acts or not?

I apologize for not being able to understand everything you write here, I know that you are using a translation site to help you post here.
 
caster51 said:
why are korean doing the witch hunting(pro-japan)? what did pro-japanese do.? why so many?

they thought the best way was Annexation with japan.

ROK government and also many college students feel the need to " root out " remnants of pro-Japanese element amongst ruling establishment and literary elites for the good of Korean nation and her people to prevent future " undermining schemes " of Japanese.

One notable example is Samsung's founder Lee family was once a largest rice merchant during Japanese occupation years,their collaboration with Japanese is documented.There are some other examples,I don't want to waste time copy/paste here.

You meant it was imperialist Japanese thought out the annexation plan,this was in conflict with Korea kingdom's last Empress Min's sought for Russian military assistance led to her tragic death by the hands of Japanese cruelty and savagedly gang-raped by her Japanese assailant and accomplices.
 
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..... Oh ... words of self fullfilling prophecy presented by caster51,your acts are comical at times.

The proud Korean people absolutely didn't desired for any " unequal " partnership with Japanese whom they looked down upon for many centuries.

Can you provide a list of Korean sell-out politicians collabrated with imperialist Japanese in the annexation scheme ?

Ummm ... Japan did actually annexed Korea peninsula against the wills of the Royal House of Yi and Korean people.
 
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pipokun said:
Actually, it is not true.

Some Japanese incl. media and politicians took the DPRK or your PRC as a heaven in the world then.

The problem is that we still have the dreamers in Japan...

Overwhelming majority of Japan's Zainichi Koreans are indeed 4th or 5th generation born and bred,plus a percentage might be of recent S Korean immigrants.What's not true,can you elaborate further ?

Just a note,my family left mainland China back in 1870's decades before PRC was established there.

Yeah,right-wing ultra-nationlist Japanese dreamers have " full on dementia " in response to ruthless conducts commited by Japan Imperial Army.
 
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Korea didn't invade Japan. Japan invaded Korea right?
japan inveded korea?
japan did not invede korean ( for Annexation)
japan did the Annexation with peace.
Japane did ntt fight againt them
Japan attempted to annex China and the rest of southeast Asia as well, or is that a myth as well?
that is a myth..
Manchuria was an idependent country though someone say puppet
The proud Korean people absolutely didn't desired for any " unequal " partnership with Japanese whom they looked down upon for many centuries
they were japannese nationality.
that is , they were the japanese at that time.
they could move eveywhere in japan
they can change the name freely.
there were some generals and 11 diet members.
 
How about Taiwan?
most of the old Taiwanese ppls are evaluating japan justifiable though it might come from china problems.
 
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ricecake.....Can you provide a list of Korean sell-out politicians collaborated with imperialist Japanese in the annexation scheme
Austria that had been annexed to Germany admitted Austria was an assailant and
apologized.
The Japan-South Korea annexation did a formal signature with peace.
However, the relation between Germany and Austria is obviously due to a
military invasion.
Is South Korea true though takes a victim's standpoint?
The responsibility is pressed against someone, and the subterfuge as the nation
is done when becoming inconvenient
one of lists of witches(Japanophiles)
http://bbs.yonhapnews.co.kr/doc/J20050829001.pdf
http://news.naver.com/news/read.php?mode=LSD&office_id=124&article_id=0000013327
http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/20060308/070300000020060308173013K5.html
A person of the composition of the Korean national anthem was also pro-Japan.?

He graduated with top scores.
he did representative greeting or speech at the graduation ceremony in Ichigaya because of the top score.
Korean war hero was also nominated as a witch
 
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