Why is it weird for a Japanese person to walk with a black person?

What's so great about Japanese people?

From all the J-people I have encountered, more than 95% are polite and helpful.
 
And that isn't true for any other race or location?

My point isn't necessarily to put down Japanese people; it's to show that they aren't better than any other group of people on the planet just because they're Japanese. I'd say that 95% of the people that I've encountered are polite and helpful. I'm still going to need someone to show me some numbers that are representative of the entire populations of different races as to which one has the most jerks and idiots, and which one has the least. At any rate, I still say it's irrelevant.
 
Well, I have actually encoutered many rude people (at least 50% of the the ones I had talked to) among three races which I won't name ...
 
Sally_Hawn said:
Well, I have actually encoutered many rude people (at least 50% of the the ones I had talked to) among three races which I won't name ...
What do you mean race? We are all homosapiens.
Do you mean nationality?
 
Sally_Hawn said:
Well, I have actually encoutered many rude people (at least 50% of the the ones I had talked to) among three races which I won't name ...

I'm sorry to hear that, but I doubt that it's a representative population of those races. I just have a hard time believing that one race is better than any other. Also, I think that where you are is more important than what race you are. White people in Ireland aren't the same as white people in America.

Well, at this point I don't even know what we're arguing about anymore, so I guess I'll have to try to be clearer than I was earlier.

What do we mean by "Japanese people?" Do we mean any citizens of Japan, only native citizens of Japan (people born there, not naturalized citizens), people whose bloodlines are purely from the Japanese mongoloid group (not necessarily born in Japan or even citizens), people whose bloodlines are partially from that group, or some other group that I may not have thought of? We can't really talk about this if we don't have some sort of focus.
 
I mean three nationalities... Rudeness is a relative term too... Maybe those people I had mention above didn't think they were rude according to their culture.

Anyway, I don't want to continue this topic because my defence for my previous posts can be racist, and it is tres tres tres uncool to be a racist in the U.S. and Canada.
 
"But why is it even enough of an issue to BE a nickname?"

OK, dude, it's JUST a nickname. Hell I could call him any other color with ey or ie or just y at the end, and even if it didn't make sense, it would JUST be a nickname. Heck, I could call him drop-out, even though he's anything but. To quote a good friend,"Sometimes a cigar is JUST a cigar."

"Its not a question of whether he cares or not, its the point that the issue was ever enough to warrant a nickname in the first place."

As a friend, you're bound to be given a nickname of some sort by atleast one person at one time or another. Again, read my above statement

"*sigh* You started it. YOU. You made the intial post about being offended by caucasians talking to asian girls."

Mmhmm, and that was my response to this topic. Now then, did the three of you have to all say such negative things? No. You could've just ignored it. I don't recall it saying,"Does anyone agree with me?" Just, my opinion.

"And how is talking to a caucasian the wrong path in and off itself? unless you know THAT causian is a bad guy HIMSELF then there is no problem for you to be fatherly about and theres no 'right path' taht shes not taking. For all you know she could be heading down the best path of her life."

I DO know him :eek:

"You don't have to hate a race to make yourself a racist."

*coughcontradictedallstatedbeforecough*

"Just feel superiority off one race over another. ANY caucasian that said what you just but reveresed, that whites are more moral, of better character than blacks or asians would be called racist. There is no question there."

OK, but you see, I don't treat any race differently from any other, so just because I mentally think that Asians(w/i state, city, etc, u get point) are "better" makes me a racist? You know, I don't see how that adds up as I've accepted everybody as normal people my whole life and continue to have close white friends of both genders of many ages, if I were truly a racist one could imply I wouldn't like whites PERIOD.

"What?
Then whats this?


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Well, I know that when I see a white guy hitting on an Asian female I get offended and want to stop them, even if they're no one I know and the Asian isn't my blood.


Need that one more time?


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Well, I know that when I see a white guy hitting on an Asian female I get offended and want to stop them, even if they're no one I know and the Asian isn't my blood.



Just in case you missed it


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Well, I know that when I see a white guy hitting on an Asian female I get offended and want to stop them, even if they're no one I know and the Asian isn't my blood."

Too bad I'M ALREADY PAST THAT huh? Baka

"Its funny how much your stories keep changing and shifting."

So what? You're such a dolt it's really making me mad. You're trying to make it seem like I'm changing it, yet, CHECK THE STATISTICS! Quit acting like I'm just making thigns up to get by. I did mean Koreans, I was just implying it by saying Asians. Don't believe me? Check statistics, or shut up.

"I'm not American."

So? I still stand by it.

"You judged me. Before knowing anything about me. Uh-oh. Guess what?"

Um, I'm OPENLY PREDJUDICE. Nice try Bill O'Reilly 👍

"By the way Ape, what nationality passport do you hold? What citizenship?
For the love of god it better not be an American passport or you jsut wrecked yourself beyond measure."

I really wouldn't know. I've only once held my passport, since most of the times when I go flying my parents have it, but I never actually read it. And, I really don't care to know.

"FYI I'm Australian"

Thanks for sharing 🙂

"And how is talking to, being with a caucasian the wrong path in and off itself? Like I said, do you KNOw the guy she is interacting with is a bad guy? Do you KNOW his history and character? Or are you assuming absed on race?"

I know him 😌

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Um, why should I care? The Japanese I know all know me and consider me to be Japanese. So what if I'm not full-blooded? That doesn't entail me to anything else, cept, maybe those Japanese-only bars...

"Or suspicion of crime."

Because I'm not full-blooded I'm more suspected of crime? That's pretty messed up @_@

"Or workplace rights."

I wouldn't work at a place that would or wouldn't hire me because of race.

"So why even mention you owned your own pair."

I don't know XD.

"Fun true story. I go to my local konbini at least twice a week to buy dinner. I actually talk to 2 of the people there and in all likelihood will be hitting a bar or two with one of the guys from there one day.
Yet theres an older women there. EVERY time I go there, if she serves me, EVERY time she asks if I want a fork, not chopsticks. Think after a year of my face popping up there she'd know right?"

Maybe it's protocol? She could just be generous incase you had a change. Nice story 🍜

"I doubt it. Childhood memories are always distorted. Kids have an innate ability to not notice whats really happening around them."

Eh, that's just an assumption. I mean, most do, but I've kept track of anything from ages.....I believe 5 or 4 or so and up. Not permanent replays of my life, just small things. But, I had a capable and able mind at age 7, so of course I remember my trip to Japan. Not certain details like say a name of an arcade, but certainly walking around town and what have you.

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Even if I was/am going to be stared at, why would I care? Atleast I'm getting attention. Hell if it got a conversation going I'd be more than happy to be eye-candy.

"You wont be saying that after the 10th inane conversation of 'where are you from' and 'can you eat natto?'"

I really wouldn't care. I mean, I'm guessing because I was young and only knew a little Japanese I wasn't asked that much, but even if I am, I'd be more than happy to tell them about the abomination of a country to which I came from.

"Another story change."

Um, no, that's BEEN apparent.

"Did you live or did you visit? When did you live there and for how long?"

I was only there for a week, so by textbook definition, I LIVED there for a week. I mean, in the English language, we can assume that "live" is over a wider range of time, while visit is brief and short. However, I technically LIVED there, even though I didn't enroll in a school or begin stocking my fridge full of food as if to dwell there for a long while.

"You're rather mixed heritage. Like me. Thats very amusing and curious for Japanese."

Fine with me.

"NO
YOU'RE
NOT"

Um, even if I'm half, I'm still Japanese. Notice the word "Japanese" as the second word with a hyphen and the word half in front of it. If it says Japanese, then technically, I'm Japanese. I'm not full-blooded 100%, but I still am.

"You are NO MORE Japanese than Yun is. She has more points on you in that she has lived in Japan all her life. She was born here, raised here, named here. She looks and acts Japanese. But a small 'mistake' of genetics, of parenthood, in that one parent is Korean. Thats enough. Enough for her to not be Japanese in the eyes of her peers. Enough for her to be taunted and treated as an outcast. For something thats not obvious at all unless she says her first name completely or someone investigates her."

Why should I care? Although I'd be more than ecstatic to be 100% Japanese, I really don't care. It doesn't make me any more or less happier.

"You'd be happy to be bullied and picked on? treated like a freak and ostracised? You;d be happy for your kids to get that too?"

Well, by the time I move to Japan I likely won't be getting bullied. Well, maybe verbally. Even so, well, I really need to know what kind of bullying we're talking about. I mean, even if it were physical, I'd avoid it, but if it were unavoidable I'd defend myself. I'm no stranger to fighting, but I'm also no stranger to peace. When I was there I wasn't treated like a freak or ostracised, and I have relations with quite a few Japanese teens at this point in time, and none of them find me weird or freaky that I'm half-Japanese. And, so what if my kids look or don't look Japanese in Japan? Sure, they may be treated a little differently, but if they speak it and write it, so what? Besides, who knows my kids will look like? It all depends on the female set now won't it. Either way, I really doubt my kid(s) will be bullied, but even so...wait, why are we talking about parenting?

"Naiveity."

No, good friendship, a concept you don't seem to be familiar with. Look, I know the difference between a FRIEND and just some guy to hang with. Seriously, I've known these people nearly my whole life, and they're not the kind of person who'd turn their backs on me, unless it was their life or mine, whichcase I wouldn't know what'd happen, but that's not important right now.

"It doesnt amtter how many 'Japanese traits' you hold, you're missing one a few important things. 100% Japanese blood or very close too. A Japanese passport and COMPLETE Japanese upbringing solely in Japan"

Again, I want to know what being 100% Japanese has to do with anything? I don't care if it affects me so long as I can get a job there. That's all I need, well, for starters.

"Oh another one of my students. Yui. Also 14. Lived in America for 3 years while her dad worked. Came back. Must now attend an international school because of the treatment she got at her Japanese school when she returned. She wasn't 'Japanese' any more. Kids can be so cruel."

That sucks. Well, I've never attended a Japanese school, but I severely doubt it'll be any worse. I mean, firstly I'm not really the target of bullying, cept for my race, because otherwise I'm just a simple, generic male. Either way, if race is all, I won't care, because I get treated terribly here, and I'm happy as a monkey on steroids, so I doubt people calling me gaijin daily or Marui-Me will upset me. Now, if they start using violence at inappropriate times(like, carrying a lunch tray) then I might have some problems, but I doubt they'll do the kind of things they do here.

"Almost. A few Japanese even view Okinawans as different. But those types are real idiots."

Yeah, I've heard about how people from different regions of Japan were treated different from say people in Tokyo, as if it's the heart. Well, it IS the capitol, but that doens't make it the most important place 😊

"No but you;d think, if you were right or at least defenceable that SOMEONE, ANYONE ehre would take your side. (as a side whats the bet that a new poster, a one post bandit will suddenly weigh in supporting Cyber Ape?)"

Um, I didn't ASK for anyone to take my side. Again, you tried to start a war, not me. Although I accepted your challenge, well, not you, but somebody(I think Kei) started it. I didn't ask if anyone agreed, i just stated my opinion.

"Story changes again."

No you dolt, you guys just kept trying to get me to be racist and didn't listen to anything I said. It's always been The Caucasians and Asians within the city of Evans, GA. However, you guys thought when I said Caucasians I meant every last one. Then when I said Georgia, you again thought every one in GA. The whole time I meant where I lived, and since you know my age I'm sure you know my location.

"Question. Would a caucasian in Georgia saying that he and all the other caucasians are morally or intellectually superior to Asians be racist?"

No. If he accepted atleast one Asian, then he wouldn't be racist.

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Too bad I'm over that huh dip shnoggle?

"But you still gotta be fatherly? And name calling? Backed into a wall much?"

You know, this is the one thing that bothers me about old people; their inability to realize they too are on the same plane with the adolescents I hate. You aren't superior to kids, and don't bother trying to say you are, because you aren't. Name-calling doesn't make me any more or less mature. Name-calling allows me to simplify my statements and thoughts into a few words that are both powerful and inane and are said by people to help them put others "in their place."

"see what I'm getting at?
I haven't even been to Japan and I'm already getting the treatment pooka talks about.
if we know any japanese or anything about japanese culture, it seems we're practically japanese! Except we're not."

Why are you trying to disprove my blood? Why would I lie about my background?

"whatta...?
so this girl you sorta fancied but didn't want anyway, cuz she wasn't your taste or whatever, was your daughter?... nice family you've got there."

Ugh, I'm so sick of this response. When I say father, I mean guardian. I watch over her, not be half her bearer. I did not fertalize anybody's egg, I'm just a guardian. Must I replace that word too, or are you going to accuse me of changing the story?

"You are the most inconsistant person I have ever seen.
It might work for a while in real life just to make new stuff up as you go along, but on a bulletin board your old posts can be reviewed. (but even in real life, there's a good saying... "A good liar must have an excellent memory"... it's true.)"

Ugh, it's a shame that you don't read my posts. When I said Asians, I was implying you already knew. If you think I'm lying, check out some sort of census chart. You will see that there is a HIGH population of Koreans within the Evans, GA district. Try to prove me wrong about that; I've lived here a year and a half. As for the whole Caucasians, THE WHOLE TIME I MEANT WITHIN AUGUSTA, GA, BUT YOU FOOLS TOOK MY EXAGGERATION LITERALLY AND THOUGHT I MEANT IN THE ENTIRE WORLD! Maybe if you'd realize that things aren't always literal you could see past your arrogance and certainty.

"heh, I've seen whites pull the "I'm not racist, I have a black friend!" card before, but I've never seen the "I'm not racist, I have a white friend" one... hehe"

While that's humorous that's really a pretty simple post. The United States of America's population is a majority of what? CAUCASIANS! Now, if you asked a non-caucasian they might say this, but even so, that's just stupid. I mean, if somebody calls you racist against blacks and you have a black friend, then they're the dolt. But if they call you racist PERIOD without designating a race, and you choose the African-American trump, you'll look as stupid as David Blaine.
 
Well, I think that some people may become attached to a particular culture or nationality depending on their experiences. If an asian girl is rescued by a caucasian male when she's very young, she may become more attracted to caucasian men simply because she's reminded of that one person.

If someone has bad/great experiences with anyone, they will become reminded of those memories depending on different triggers. If a girl gets raped, and the rapist was an african-american, she may feel uneasy around african americans not because she's racist, but because she's reminded of that horrible experience.

When I was 6 years old, I went to Japan. I had the time of my life, there. Having been bullied almost everywhere I went by my peers, I finally found a place where people liked me BECAUSE I was unusual, rather than it being a vice. I know this was probably just because I was a visitor, but I really felt incredible because of that experience. Since then, I've become attached to Japanese culture. If I move there, I may not experience the same kindness, but I don't really care. That place reminds me of a time when I actually felt accepted for once... when I was truly happy. If I'm treated terrible in Japan when I move there, I won't care so long as I'm reminded of that time.

I don't know if I'm making any sense, but please understand- I'm not putting down or praising anybody just because I think that they're better or worse for being Japanese or caucasian or whatever. I'm just saying that someone's experiences shape their view of the world and people in general.

Someone fond of Japanese persons may simply have had a good experience. Someone who hates caucasians may have simply had a bad experience.

That's all.


Why does Cyber Ape even bother posting anymore? It's like someone trying to keep fighting even after his guts have been ripped out and then force-fed back to him.
 
cyber ape said:
OK, but you see, I don't treat any race differently from any other, so just because I mentally think that Asians(w/i state, city, etc, u get point) are "better" makes me a racist? You know, I don't see how that adds up as I've accepted everybody as normal people my whole life and continue to have close white friends of both genders of many ages, if I were truly a racist one could imply I wouldn't like whites PERIOD.
That's quite odd. Are you saying that as long as you don't voice your opinion (i.e. that Asians in GA are "better/superior" to the Caucasians) out loud there is nothing wrong? Wait, hold on...are your close white friends exempt from being like all the other whites in your area? Or do you feel because they aren't Asian they aren't as good?

cyber ape said:
No you dolt, you guys just kept trying to get me to be racist and didn't listen to anything I said. It's always been The Caucasians and Asians within the city of Evans, GA.
Uh, no. Just look at the quote you said earlier. (See below) I know, seeing as you've been living in GA for more than a year, that you know Evans and Augusta are two different cities with two different population statistics.

cyber ape said:
OK, I want you to read this, and if you neglect it, than I will leave this post and never post again. Ahem: The Asians within the city of Augusta, which is in the state of Georgia, the Asians are indeed superior to the Caucasians. Now then, that only applies to the people within Augusta, NOWHERE ELSE. Try to call me a racist now 🎈
You are slipping up again.

cyber ape said:
However, you guys thought when I said Caucasians I meant every last one. Then when I said Georgia, you again thought every one in GA. The whole time I meant where I lived, and since you know my age I'm sure you know my location.
😲 No, I don't and quite frankly it doesn't sound like you do either. Your profile says Aidane, Ga. You have said you live in both Evans and Augusta, GA. So, either you have that many homes in all those cities or something is really wrong.

cyber ape said:
"Question. Would a caucasian in Georgia saying that he and all the other caucasians are morally or intellectually superior to Asians be racist?"

No. If he accepted atleast one Asian, then he wouldn't be racist.
Hmmm...your idea of racism baffles me. So, there could be a person who openly says they are superior to another person of a different ethnic background and as long as that person has one friend of that background they aren't racist. According to your definition, it would be really hard to call most racist a racist. There are a good amount of racist who like to claim they aren't because they have a friend of another ethnicity. Even TwistedMac mentioned that. (See below)
TwistedMac said:
heh, I've seen whites pull the "I'm not racist, I have a black friend!" card before, but I've never seen the "I'm not racist, I have a white friend" one... hehe

cyber ape said:
Ugh, I'm so sick of this response. When I say father, I mean guardian. I watch over her, not be half her bearer. I did not committed anybody's egg, I'm just a guardian. Must I replace that word too, or are you going to accuse me of changing the story?

So, you feel like you're guardian of all Asian girls in your area? Did they ask you to be their guardian? Or do you feel that they are incapable of making their own decisions and protecting themselves?

cyber ape said:
Ugh, it's a shame that you don't read my posts. When I said Asians, I was implying you already knew. If you think I'm lying, check out some sort of census chart. You will see that there is a HIGH population of Koreans within the Evans, GA district. Try to prove me wrong about that; I've lived here a year and a half. As for the whole Caucasians, THE WHOLE TIME I MEANT WITHIN AUGUSTA, GA, BUT YOU FOOLS TOOK MY EXAGGERATION LITERALLY AND THOUGHT I MEANT IN THE ENTIRE WORLD! Maybe if you'd realize that things aren't always literal you could see past your arrogance and certainty.
Again, why do you keep switching cities? You're being very inconsistent again. Nonetheless, I did check out the U.S. Census 200 stats on GA. Yes, Koreans are the largest population of Asians in GA. So what? The Vietnamese are the largest population of Asians where I am. What is that suppose to mean?

Kei_Shugojin said:
Why does Cyber Ape even bother posting anymore? It's like someone trying to keep fighting even after his guts have been ripped out and then force-fed back to him.?
Kei, I suppose he wants to be understood. I would love to understand why he feels as he does.
 
"That's quite odd. Are you saying that as long as you don't voice your opinion (i.e. that Asians in GA are "better/superior" to the Caucasians) out loud there is nothing wrong? Wait, hold on...are your close white friends exempt from being like all the other whites in your area? Or do you feel because they aren't Asian they aren't as good?"

Yes, they are indeed exempt.

"No, I don't and quite frankly it doesn't sound like you do either. Your profile says Aidane, Ga. You have said you live in both Evans and Augusta, GA. So, either you have that many homes in all those cities or something is really wrong."

Evans is in Augusta 👍

"Hmmm...your idea of racism baffles me. So, there could be a person who openly says they are superior to another person of a different ethnic background and as long as that person has one friend of that background they aren't racist."

Yes.

"According to your definition, it would be really hard to call most racist a racist. There are a good amount of racist who like to claim they aren't because they have a friend of another ethnicity. Even TwistedMac mentioned that. (See below)

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Originally Posted by TwistedMac
heh, I've seen whites pull the "I'm not racist, I have a black friend!" card before, but I've never seen the "I'm not racist, I have a white friend" one... hehe"

I know that. As far as I'm concerned racism is a hatred towards all members of one race. Thus, being racist against say African-Americans yet having an African-American friend wouldn't make you racist.

"So, you feel like you're guardian of all Asian girls in your area?"

No, just my friends.

"Did they ask you to be their guardian?"

Nope, I'm morally obliged.

"Or do you feel that they are incapable of making their own decisions and protecting themselves?"

Nope, I don't doubt them, but sometimes, people just need a nice big ***** slap when they go over the edge.

"Again, why do you keep switching cities? You're being very inconsistent again. Nonetheless, I did check out the U.S. Census 200 stats on GA. Yes, Koreans are the largest population of Asians in GA. So what? The Vietnamese are the largest population of Asians where I am. What is that suppose to mean?"

Um, I'm just saying that when I said Asians and was then accused of being a minority within a majority which confused...someone, fergot his name, I had to explain that I am a minority because I'm Japanese, not Korean. And, Evans is within Augusta. You see, I live in Martinez but am constantly going to Evans for school and other such things. Both are in Augusta.

"Kei, I suppose he wants to be understood. I would love to understand why he feels as he does."

Here:

1. You had to start things with me on my post. You didn't have to say anything, but you felt like I was some sort of racist, so instead of just keeping it inside or just a pithy "you racist!" you had to start an exploiting match
2. I'm defending my title
3. This is a war, and in war, you don't give up until you're absolutely defeated
4. Because, everyone's trying to misconstrue or spin the story so they can be right. Earlier I found it interesting, because you seemed to be trying to disprove my heritage. Then you accuse me of being a racist, and now changing the story?

Look, I guarantee you if I said "Peace treaty? Stop this. No more fighting" you guys continue. I've CONTINUOUSLY apologized, yet I haven't heard a shard of condolence towards me, which I suppose can be understood, but you guys treat me like I'm a retard, yet who keeps bringing this up? Seriously, don't just put up a shield and run, because every shield needs a supporter. Otherwise, I will break through the barrier.

Now then, I'll only ask this once, because knowing you guys, you'll be so arrogant that you'll either sink right into my belief that you have a fragment of genius in you, or you'll blatantly disregard it like a fool.

So, peace treaty? Or would you rather take me on?(yes, a Mimura quote, who else?)
 
cyber ape said:
"That's quite odd. Are you saying that as long as you don't voice your opinion (i.e. that Asians in GA are "better/superior" to the Caucasians) out loud there is nothing wrong? Wait, hold on...are your close white friends exempt from being like all the other whites in your area? Or do you feel because they aren't Asian they aren't as good?"

Yes, they are indeed exempt.

"No, I don't and quite frankly it doesn't sound like you do either. Your profile says Aidane, Ga. You have said you live in both Evans and Augusta, GA. So, either you have that many homes in all those cities or something is really wrong."

Evans is in Augusta 👍

"Hmmm...your idea of racism baffles me. So, there could be a person who openly says they are superior to another person of a different ethnic background and as long as that person has one friend of that background they aren't racist."

Yes.

"According to your definition, it would be really hard to call most racist a racist. There are a good amount of racist who like to claim they aren't because they have a friend of another ethnicity. Even TwistedMac mentioned that. (See below)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TwistedMac
heh, I've seen whites pull the "I'm not racist, I have a black friend!" card before, but I've never seen the "I'm not racist, I have a white friend" one... hehe"

I know that. As far as I'm concerned racism is a hatred towards all members of one race. Thus, being racist against say African-Americans yet having an African-American friend wouldn't make you racist.

"So, you feel like you're guardian of all Asian girls in your area?"

No, just my friends.

"Did they ask you to be their guardian?"

Nope, I'm morally obliged.

"Or do you feel that they are incapable of making their own decisions and protecting themselves?"

Nope, I don't doubt them, but sometimes, people just need a nice big ***** slap when they go over the edge.

"Again, why do you keep switching cities? You're being very inconsistent again. Nonetheless, I did check out the U.S. Census 200 stats on GA. Yes, Koreans are the largest population of Asians in GA. So what? The Vietnamese are the largest population of Asians where I am. What is that suppose to mean?"

Um, I'm just saying that when I said Asians and was then accused of being a minority within a majority which confused...someone, fergot his name, I had to explain that I am a minority because I'm Japanese, not Korean. And, Evans is within Augusta. You see, I live in Martinez but am constantly going to Evans for school and other such things. Both are in Augusta.

"Kei, I suppose he wants to be understood. I would love to understand why he feels as he does."

Here:

1. You had to start things with me on my post. You didn't have to say anything, but you felt like I was some sort of racist, so instead of just keeping it inside or just a pithy "you racist!" you had to start an exploiting match
2. I'm defending my title
3. This is a war, and in war, you don't give up until you're absolutely defeated
4. Because, everyone's trying to misconstrue or spin the story so they can be right. Earlier I found it interesting, because you seemed to be trying to disprove my heritage. Then you accuse me of being a racist, and now changing the story?

Look, I guarantee you if I said "Peace treaty? Stop this. No more fighting" you guys continue. I've CONTINUOUSLY apologized, yet I haven't heard a shard of condolence towards me, which I suppose can be understood, but you guys treat me like I'm a retard, yet who keeps bringing this up? Seriously, don't just put up a shield and run, because every shield needs a supporter. Otherwise, I will break through the barrier.

Now then, I'll only ask this once, because knowing you guys, you'll be so arrogant that you'll either sink right into my belief that you have a fragment of genius in you, or you'll blatantly disregard it like a fool.

So, peace treaty? Or would you rather take me on?(yes, a Mimura quote, who else?)


Okay, here's the thing. You are basically putting down all of the caucasians in your area.

That's wrong, because it's a generalization without merit. Just because someone's a caucasian in your area doesn't mean he's going to fit your profile of a caucasian. Obviously, some of your friends are exempt from that. Another kind of generalization would make sense, i.e. "I hate all of the evangelist christians around here. They're always harassing me to join their religion/treating me like crap because I'm asian." Now that one I've heard before and understood. But generalizing against an entire race, even if it is limited to one area, is just wrong. Just a little piece of advice- let go of your caucasian generalization and find something else to dislike/hate about the people who get on your nerves. Are they all hillbillies? Are they all religious extremeists? etc.

Nothing hostile here. Just friendly criticism.

Number 1- this wasn't an exploiting match. We asked why and defended ourselves against your comments. That's what a forum allows for. If you really wanted us to "keep it inside" or "at just a pithy", then why did you even post? Most normal people don't just sit back and take every insult that comes their way. You're the only one who made it an "exploiting match" by trying to get sympathy from everyone when you started being proven wrong. Now it's just gotten to the point where you're embarassing yourself.

Number 2- You have no title to defend, okay? Just give up this futile argument and get a reputation as someone who knows how to say "Okay. I'm sorry. I was wrong". What we've heard is "I'm sorry you idiots misunderstood me". That sort of apology doesn't come off very well. We need to hear a full apology before anything else changes.

Number 3- If the war does not have a just cause, and you absolutely cannot win, then there's no other logical choice but to surrender and prevent any further bloodshed. And, also, you're the only one who made this a war. You tried to defend your insults, instead of doing an outright correction right at the beginning.

Number 4- the only one miscontruing or lying about anything here is you. You keep contradicting yourself. We'd all understood if you said "I'm sorry. I made a mistake in speaking. I realized my mistake, but I was afraid to admit I was wrong until it got this far."

Now, I can't accept any sort of "truce", because that would basically be a cop-out.

I think what we all want (and correct me if I'm wrong on this one, guys) is a total and complete surrender, immedeately followed by a full explanation (not one where you explain why you're right. One where you explain your mistakes) and an apology to every caucasian on the Jref forums. Your comments, wether you like it or not, were hurtful. You can't just indiscriminantly hit and push around and expect people not to hit and push back.
 
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"Hmmm...your idea of racism baffles me. So, there could be a person who openly says they are superior to another person of a different ethnic background and as long as that person has one friend of that background they aren't racist."

Yes.

According to the definition given by Mirriam-Webster's you are misunderstanding what racism is:

Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary said:
Main Entry: rac ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
- rac ist /-sist also -shist/ noun or adjective

So just holding the belief that one race is superior to another is racism by definition.

Sally_Hawn said:
I mean three nationalities... Rudeness is a relative term too... Maybe those people I had mention above didn't think they were rude according to their culture.

Alright. I agree with you about rudeness being subjective and perhaps different depending on culture, which is one of the reasons that I believe that we'll probably never see a study on which race, nationality, etc. is the least rude. :p
 
lol. Thanks for that post, Glenn.

I can't wait for Cyberape to come up and go "No! You're wrong! I found THIS!"- and post up an entirely different definition of the word "Racism" and then follow his traditional tagline of him being right and everyone else being wrong.
 
Is this cyber ape kid for real, I mean this dude seems pretty delusional.


"So, you feel like you're guardian of all Asian girls in your area?"

No, just my friends.

"Did they ask you to be their guardian?"

Nope, I'm morally obliged.

"Or do you feel that they are incapable of making their own decisions and protecting themselves?"

Nope, I don't doubt them, but sometimes, people just need a nice big ***** slap when they go over the edge.

Your friends probably think that you are more of a stalker than a guardian. You are trying them to protect them from white dudes hitting on them? Man someone should protect them from a lunatic that calls himself their guardian. It sounds like this clown needs a nice big ***** slap to knock him back into reality.

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Originally Posted by TwistedMac
heh, I've seen whites pull the "I'm not racist, I have a black friend!" card before, but I've never seen the "I'm not racist, I have a white friend" one... hehe"

I know that. As far as I'm concerned racism is a hatred towards all members of one race. Thus, being racist against say African-Americans yet having an African-American friend wouldn't make you racist.

You think have friends of the same race you hate makes you exempt from being labelled racist? Wow you have some twisted ideas of how simple concept works. If you admit to hating a majority of a race, and then claim you're not racist because you have some friends of that race....wow seriously are you on some kinda drugs or what?

Man I swear you and mecharmor23 should go start your own white haters club. I could personally care less if you think you are more superior than other races, but when go out and start running off your mouth to the wrong person, don't act suprised if you wake up and you are in the hospital. There are tons of people that will not tolerate that stuff. Your name should be cyber contradiction, because that is all you do. If you are trying to persuade people on a certain view don't contradict yourself time after time, because you look make yourself look like an imbecile.
 
"Okay, here's the thing. You are basically putting down all of the caucasians in your area.

That's wrong, because it's a generalization without merit. Just because someone's a caucasian in your area doesn't mean he's going to fit your profile of a caucasian. Obviously, some of your friends are exempt from that. Another kind of generalization would make sense, i.e. "I hate all of the evangelist christians around here. They're always harassing me to join their religion/treating me like crap because I'm asian." Now that one I've heard before and understood. But generalizing against an entire race, even if it is limited to one area, is just wrong. Just a little piece of advice- let go of your caucasian generalization and find something else to dislike/hate about the people who get on your nerves. Are they all hillbillies? Are they all religious extremeists? etc.

Nothing hostile here. Just friendly criticism."

Too bad I said majority of Caucasians, huh?

"Number 1- this wasn't an exploiting match. We asked why and defended ourselves against your comments. That's what a forum allows for. If you really wanted us to "keep it inside" or "at just a pithy", then why did you even post?"

Because you dolt, the man asked a question and I answered. Thus he asked it: for answers. And, an exploiting match is when you quote someone then try to prove them wrong or "exploit" (show for personal gain) them.

"Most normal people don't just sit back and take every insult that comes their way."

It wasn't in your way bonkotsu!

"You're the only one who made it an "exploiting match""

Um, whoever begins the quoting is the one who begins the war, dolt.

"by trying to get sympathy from everyone when you started being proven wrong."

Why would I need sympathy if I'm winning? God you need to polish your rusty face.

"Now it's just gotten to the point where you're embarassing yourself."

Actually I'm feeling rather high spirited right now. Nothing gets me more pumped-up than winning a war, and exploiting's my #1 war-type.

"Number 2- You have no title to defend, okay?"

Undefeated Exploiting Champion.

"Just give up this futile argument and get a reputation as someone who knows how to say "Okay. I'm sorry. I was wrong". What we've heard is "I'm sorry you idiots misunderstood me". That sort of apology doesn't come off very well. We need to hear a full apology before anything else changes."

Um, firstly, as you can quite clearly above see, I DID apologize and DID offer a STOP TO ALL THIS FIGHTING, but as usual you idiots refuse to read anything I say and just use the typical Bill O'Reilly method of "Don't listen to him, just say OK OK to make it acknowledging, then say something absolutely incorrect and biased and radical, then when he proves you wrong either tell him to shut up, ignore him, or bring up something simple like a spelling error to make him look bad." And, why should I say sorry? You started this whole thing. I just stated my opinion, and then yuo went off. You could've done the mature thing and said "Nope, he's not worth it. Just let the idiot go", but instead you turned a molehill into a mountain and fell into my quicksand trap. Enjoy the bottom, because there'll be no escape.

"Number 3- If the war does not have a just cause, and you absolutely cannot win, then there's no other logical choice but to surrender and prevent any further bloodshed. And, also, you're the only one who made this a war. You tried to defend your insults, instead of doing an outright correction right at the beginning."

Um, exploiting wars aren't supposed to have "just causes." They're used to make others see the errors of their mistakes, thus called EXPLOITing wars. And, I didn't start the war, but I did help it, and so did you, as you too are a combatant. The first person, I believe you Kei, had to DEFEND YOURSELF against an unthreatening, peaceful warrior like me, and so of course when you FRAME ME, what will I do? I'll fight back and expose you as the fraud you are. Of course, since people like to hop in the bandwagon, it appears that nobody wishes to oppose you. Then again, nobody reads my posts thuroughly anyways.

"Number 4- the only one miscontruing or lying about anything here is you. You keep contradicting yourself. We'd all understood if you said "I'm sorry. I made a mistake in speaking. I realized my mistake, but I was afraid to admit I was wrong until it got this far.""

Um, I DID. I told you I did not mean ALL Caucasians, and I told you I did not mean ALL IN Georgia. And, that's not contradicting, it's your foolish inability to realize not everything that comes from my mouth is literal.

"Now, I can't accept any sort of "truce", because that would basically be a cop-out."

See? Immaturity. Also, CONTRADICTION! You rant on and on about how I started a war and ask me to apologize, then when I apologize and ASK FOR PEACE, all you do is continue? Just what are you fighting for? If you wish to continue the war I grant you great luck, because I'm a soldier who cannot be killed. Now, look, you're lucky I'd even give you a TITLE let alone a positive one for surrendering and claiming peace, but seriously, get with it. Either you're just as bad as me or just as peaceful. Which one?

"I think what we all want (and correct me if I'm wrong on this one, guys) is a total and complete surrender, immedeately followed by a full explanation (not one where you explain why you're right. One where you explain your mistakes) and an apology to every caucasian on the Jref forums."

Two things:

1. Are you blind? I already issued my offerings OF PEACE. Told you nobody reads anything I post thuroughly.

2. This post wasn't directed to every Caucasian within the forum you dolt, but the ones within Augusta, GA! God you are dense! The Titanic is rolling over in its grave!

"Your comments, wether you like it or not, were hurtful."

You know, I don't enjoy having to exploit you little kids, mainly because nobody's ever stood a good chance seeing as I'm so powerful. And no, this isn't like Marvel Vs Capcom where skills wins, this is something where either you're good or bad, and quite clearly my exploiting skills reign supreme. And, secondly, my post wasn't targeted to you. Do you live in Augusta, GA? If so you'll have my full, wholehearted apology. If not, I suggest you stop fending for other people you don't know. You stand up for Caucasians as if you can speak FOR ALL OF THEM. Until you understand the nature of "these particular Caucasians" I suggest sitting-down, because you'll really look like a *insert insult, I don't wish to acknowledge webster for a synonym*

"You can't just indiscriminantly hit and push around and expect people not to hit and push back."

I'm aware; that's Newton's 3rd Law. Too bad there are NO AUGUSTANS HERE TO PUSH BACK HUH WISE-***?
"
According to the definition given by Mirriam-Webster's you are misunderstanding what racism is:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary
Main Entry: rac ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
- rac ist /-sist also -shist/ noun or adjective

So just holding the belief that one race is superior to another is racism by definition."

Read #2 pal :gohan:

"I can't wait for Cyberape to come up and go "No! You're wrong! I found THIS!"- and post up an entirely different definition of the word "Racism" and then follow his traditional tagline of him being right and everyone else being wrong."

Just read #2 😌

"Your friends probably think that you are more of a stalker than a guardian."

Too bad I don't stalk them huh? I don't just follow them to make sure they make every descision with grand judgment. I'm just saying when I see them by chance at certain places, and they linger(in this situation, the arcade), I tend to watch over them. And, I don't follow them. I use my eyes, not my feet.

"You are trying them to protect them from white dudes hitting on them?"

Get with the news pal: I'm over that 🎈

"Man someone should protect them from a lunatic that calls himself their guardian. It sounds like this clown needs a nice big ***** slap to knock him back into reality."

Uh oh! Somebody's looking into a mirror :p

"You think have friends of the same race you hate makes you exempt from being labelled racist?"

Um, if you hate them, you wouldn't make friends with them. Nice logic Hitler :-)

"Wow you have some twisted ideas of how simple concept works."

You sure do mirrorman

"If you admit to hating a majority of a race, and then claim you're not racist because you have some friends of that race....wow seriously are you on some kinda drugs or what?"

Um, I'm not racist because I don't hate the entire race.

"Man I swear you and mecharmor23 should go start your own white haters club."

No, but I have an unofficial campaign to help raise racial awareness. I don't hate whites.

"I could personally care less if you think you are more superior than other races,"

I don't

"but when go out and start running off your mouth to the wrong person, don't act suprised if you wake up and you are in the hospital."

Somebody's a baka. What don't you get? I don't hate whites, I don't run around spitting racial epithets, I don't call all my friends by their color, I don't say "Oh he's white, therefore he's uncool and/or cannot be my friend, and Asians clearly have a better sense of judgment then him." I really wish you sako would READ my posts before saying such radical things. You know who you guys remind me of? The radical republicans, who believed in the KKK belief that they should scare Africans away from voting offices so their republican candidates could win. An obscure reference, but nonetheless paints a generous portrait of you.

"There are tons of people that will not tolerate that stuff. Your name should be cyber contradiction, because that is all you do. If you are trying to persuade people on a certain view don't contradict yourself time after time, because you look make yourself look like an imbecile"

You know imbecile, I'm not trying to persuade anyone. You know, if you can't get your facts right, why bother? I'm not called the Undefeated Exploiting Champion. If you mess with a bees' nest, do the bees not come to swarm you with their rabid stingers? If you harm one body, does the body not harm back? You know my friend, there's blind egotism but crazy confidence, and that's a good trait to have, but you're just diving into a stream of raging hellfire, and it's too late to get out. I've been trying to explain to you throught all my posts. Read them. In fact, read them twice, because I'm a great writer, then read them a third time to get the point. You're the Chinese and you're invading my sea, and my kamikaze has just blown you away.
 
This guy is unbelievable.. So proudly ignorant.. Oh well.. Atleast he has the courage (Or stupidity? Egomaniacial?) to keep on fighting even after he has been proved wrong and been shown a fool.. I guess ignorance is bliss though, eh?
 
"You are trying them to protect them from white dudes hitting on them?"

Get with the news pal: I'm over that

Hey dude, just because you are c*ck-blocking doesn't mean that a guy still can't mack. I love guys that try to play protector, man people just go by these dudes anyways. What do you do if one of your friends hits on a dude, I suppose you interfere with that. It sounds like you want to get with some of your friends, but they have no interest in you. Therefore, you've got the attitude if I can't be with them no one can. That's cool brotha, like Black Street says, "hate on Playa, playa hate on."


"You think have friends of the same race you hate makes you exempt from being labeled racist?"

Um, if you hate them, you wouldn't make friends with them. Nice logic Hitler


Man, you obviously can't even comprehend your own logic, no suprise there. You were the one claiming that if you have a white friend that makes you exempt from being labeled a racist if you have you people a majority of people because they're white. As for Hilter, besides being evil and sick, he was a intelligent man, so I take that as a compliment.

"Man someone should protect them from a lunatic that calls himself their guardian. It sounds like this clown needs a nice big ***** slap to knock him back into reality."

Uh oh! Somebody's looking into a mirror

I'm a vampire son, I can't be seen in the mirror, so I guess that leaves you.


"Wow you have some twisted ideas of how simple concept works."

You sure do mirrorman

Wow, I hope you didn't have to strain your abnormal brain with that original comeback.


"If you admit to hating a majority of a race, and then claim you're not racist because you have some friends of that race....wow seriously are you on some kinda drugs or what?"

Um, I'm not racist because I don't hate the entire race.

If you hate one person because of their race, you are considered racist. Man, are you that dense?

"Man I swear you and mecharmor23 should go start your own white haters club."

No, but I have an unofficial campaign to help raise racial awareness. I don't hate whites.

Hey take a look at your first post, you claim that you are not contradicting yourself, and also that you said that you don't hate whites. Check out your first post genius.


Well, I know that when I see a white guy hitting on an Asian female I get offended and want to stop them, even if they're no one I know and the Asian isn't my blood.

cyber ape wrote: Well, I can't speak for Japan, so I really don't know. I never had a problem with anyone, until I moved here. Now, I really, really DESPISE caucasians. Of course, I look Caucasian, so everbody thinks I'm just a contradicting self-hating fool. Oh well.

You have just proved that you are a contradicting self-hating fool by this post.


"but when go out and start running off your mouth to the wrong person, don't act suprised if you wake up and you are in the hospital."

Somebody's a baka. What don't you get? I don't hate whites, I don't run around spitting racial epithets, I don't call all my friends by their color, I don't say "Oh he's white, therefore he's uncool and/or cannot be my friend, and Asians clearly have a better sense of judgment then him." I really wish you sako would READ my posts before saying such radical things. You know who you guys remind me of? The radical republicans, who believed in the KKK belief that they should scare Africans away from voting offices so their republican candidates could win. An obscure reference, but nonetheless paints a generous portrait of you.

Omae ha sekai de ii ban baka na hito no de damatta hou ga iin ja nai? You say you don't hate whites, you just really really despise them (hint: despise is a very similar to the word "hate" which you could use interchangably *wink*). So far, from your posts, you have accurately portrayed yourself as a radical republican, congrats.

"There are tons of people that will not tolerate that stuff. Your name should be cyber contradiction, because that is all you do. If you are trying to persuade people on a certain view don't contradict yourself time after time, because you look make yourself look like an imbecile"

You know imbecile, I'm not trying to persuade anyone. You know, if you can't get your facts right, why bother? I'm not called the Undefeated Exploiting Champion. If you mess with a bees' nest, do the bees not come to swarm you with their rabid stingers? If you harm one body, does the body not harm back? You know my friend, there's blind egotism but crazy confidence, and that's a good trait to have, but you're just diving into a stream of raging hellfire, and it's too late to get out. I've been trying to explain to you throught all my posts. Read them. In fact, read them twice, because I'm a great writer, then read them a third time to get the point. You're the Chinese and you're invading my sea, and my kamikaze has just blown you away.


You said it immaculately when you spouted out, "If you can't get your facts right, don't bother. That leads me to the question, why are you still bothering, because your facts either aren't facts, or they contradict each other. You should have the title of "Undefeated Exploiting Champion", because so far you have exploited yourself to the fullest of how much of an illogical, arrogant, ignorant, self proclaimed "guardian" of the asian race, you are the epitome of self contradiction. You say you have blind egoism, the only think you are blind on is seeing and expressing logical argument. Oh yeah, your crazy confidence =Cocky = Profusely Arrogant. I've read your points, and you have yet to make any worth posting. William Shakespeare was a great writer, Robert Frost is a great writer (Poet), you are a great writer of posting contracting nonsense that does not have any logical merit what-so-ever. Your kamikaze may be known as the "Divine Wind," but it is also the equivalent of a suicide bomber, and it shows because in every post you make, it is another act of committing suicide. Your logics couldn't beat themselves out of a wet paper bag with a knife. As Nas once said, "Aw made you look, you a slave to a page in my rhyme book." That fits most appropriately here, so back to school and learn something son.
 
Could someone PLEASE ban that ape? (Cyber Ape) He's doing nothing but getting on everyone's nerves. It's similar to the behavior of a small toddler.
 
meh, he's not doing anything bannable.. except for his little insults shoved in here and there...

Personally I just stopped replying to his stuff since it's not like it's gonna change him anyway.. if he says "toast is good", five minutes later he might say "toast sucks"... if you were to construct a time machine, travel back in time and show him himself saying "toast is good", he would call you a dolt and say he meant he was the toast's father, so he's not being racist against toast.

facts mean NOTHING to this man. So what's the point in continuing arguing with him.

rather than banning, I call for a complete conversation embargo on cyber-ape! Next time he says something, don't even read it, but if you must, don't reply
You can break it if you want, but wouldn't it be great if everyone were to heed the embargo and just never say another word to him? just completely ignore his inane posts?
 
well, there is wisdom in what you say, TwistedMac. However, some people believe that they still have a chance at arguing with this child.

I don't think everyone would keep from responding.

Besides, he'd probably start harassing some of those who argued with him in PMs. All he does is sign on, reply on this ONE topic, and leave. Look at his post history- He lives for this.
 
TwistedMac said:
if he says "toast is good", five minutes later he might say "toast sucks"... if you were to construct a time machine, travel back in time and show him himself saying "toast is good", he would call you a dolt and say he meant he was the toast's father, so he's not being racist against toast.

Haha.. I got a good chuckle out of that.. So true..
 
Yeah, I'm down with the embargo, because I've taken this kid to school and back at least a dozen times, and he still can't come up with a logical thought. The best way to deal with these types of delusional/psychotic people is to ignore them. I bet if everybody ignores cyber ape, he would then try to battle himself with all of his contradicting posts, it would be cyber ape Vs. The other 5 voices in his head. Like I said, I already put the nail in this coffin......stick a fork in me, I'm done with this Bizzo......
 
wouldn't it be "stick a fork in him"?

And I think that actually consuming him would lower one's INT stat by approx. 985 points.

But, anyway, yeah. He's been taken to school, sent to special ed, and repeated about three times by about everyone on this board.

So really it doesn't matter anymore. He's probably gonna say that we're all insulting him by not saying things about him directly to his face.

But if he stops posting on this topic, he may leave altogether. He hasn't posted anywhere else in weeks.

... ALL FOR THE EMBARGO!!!

lol
 
can we keep our posts shorter please? there's no way i'm reading all this ****. if you're unsure what i mean, please refer to mad pierrot previous post. it's about the only post i've read on this page.
 
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