What is your religion? Why?

[Emoni]

"then our Prophet Muhammad come They did not believe him the tell him if you want us to believe you spilit the moon , our prophet pray and ask god to spilit the moon ,and the moon spilit the tell him no mohammed it can't be you bewitched our eyes"

If I had been one of them, I'd have told Mohammed to prove it by giving me a million dollars, or maybe fifty beautiful women. I mean, really, why would you ask for the moon to be split? Seems to me that somebody in that story wasted a wish.

lol... you have a pretty good point here

 

[Yuki no Shiwasu]

Unfortunately . what im say is not Secret message from god it's the quran but always wants evasion of my questions and responses with ridicule please open your heart and foucs with me my words is Very clear so please don't answer the qustion by qustion
and about the moon
In the era of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
Muhammad came in an era when women were treated the worst treatment
and the pepole was adulterers and drink alcohol and about the pregnant the men was waiting if she get agirl they was buried her alive any many bad things
then our Prophet Muhammad come They did not believe him the tell him if you want us to believe you spilit the moon , our prophet pray and ask god to spilit the moon ,and the moon spilit the tell him no mohammed it can't be you bewitched our eyes
that is the story of spilit the moon

But surely if someone DID split the moon, then it would still be like that today? Plus, how could someone split the moon simply by the force of their own will OR spontaneously? Plus, if the moon was split, we would be able to tell because of the change in the tides and etc. and sorry, but there has been no evidence of that ever happening.

 

[Emoni]

*Ring ring*

Allah: Oh Jez, what is it NOW?!

*Picks up phone*

Muhammad: Um, Hey Allah um... sup?

Allah: *Sigh* What do you want now Muhammed

Muhammad: Um, well you see... there are these guys and... um they don't believe I can talk to you.

Allah: Um, yeah so? Kill them or something, that seems to be the popular thing to do anyway right?

Muhammad:Yeah, I know but...

Allah: But what... you want something again don't you.

Muhammad: Well, they said if I could split the moon in half they would believe me!
Allah: Well, they are morons. That would just be stupid.

Muhammad: But Allaaaaahhhhh

Allah: Don't "but Allaaaaahhhh" me Muhammad. this is the third time this week you've called me asking for stupid crap. I didn't give you my number so you could ask me to blow up rocks 'n sh*t. Can't you find better people to hang out with or something? Do you HAVE to have every single person believing you and thinking your just awesome cause I gave you my cell number?

Muhammad: Yeah, but these guys are cool! This time is different? Pleeeeease?!
Allah: That's what you said the last time!

Muhammad: But Allaaaaahhhhh

Allah: ....

Muhammad: Please????

Allah: This is so retarded... fine. I'll split it in half a bit, but I'm not going to leave any evidence of something so stupid like this for people in the future to hear about.
Muhammad: Thank you Allah I love you soooo much!!

Allah: Yeah yeah, I know, you say that all the time like I don't know how great I am already. Oh, and you better not write this stupid moon thing in your book. I don't want people laughing at me over this, you know how sensitive I am about that sort of thing!

Muhammad: Thank youuuuu! I promise I won't write about it! i gotta go now, my damn landlord Goldberg is being a ***** again and wanting the rent soon. I don't suppose you could give him cancer or something? Damn I hate that guy...

Allah: Oh will you just pay him already. All you do when you aren't asking for crap is whine about that Jewish guy, they were my buds way back when so chill k?

Muhammad: I hate that guy! I hate his whole damn Jewish family!

Allah: *sigh* Yea, you tell me every month when your rent is due. He's human just like you, and likes me too, so that makes him cool in my book.

Muhammad: Can't we just have a big murder spree or plague to kill all the Jews?

Allah: Um, no? Do you want me to give you rectal cancer? Cause if you start killing my old school hommies you're gonna be paying out your ***, and I don't mean metaphorically. Chill, and go tell your friends about the stupid moon show already.

Muhammad: Oh yeah! Ok, thanks Allah love you!

*click*

Allah: ... Hey! Jesus!

Jesus: Hey Pops!

Allah: How much was it to change cell phone plans again?

Jesus: I told you! There IS no other plan, Gabriel has a monopoly on that.

Allah: Can I at least change my number?

Jesus: ... earth doesn't HAVE cell phones so your "number" is still 1 you can't change it

Allah: But I'm... God! I can do anything.

Jesus: Yeah... ok, whatever. I'm gonna go out and chat with the Holy Spirit a bit, we still have that bet going for tonight!

Allah: Bah, fine. Have fun... Damn it, I need to get new hobby instead of playing with these desert nomads.

 

[mohamed]

It is difficult to talk to you and you are fanatics and militants Are you afraid Of the right ,why you don't want to see the evidence that prove the validity of the quran ,I hope you are all be as good cuz your all like my brothers. It is convenient to me that closed the subject but there some thing not visible maybe you help me to right. or make you believe what I say
but unfortunately you just avoid the question
my account did't give me access to put link's to japanes and american and arab and uk pepole and scientists join the islam and you see why you can find in google and youtub and mr emoni we are not in awar we are in adiscuss


and for my sister there's photo's to the moon you can see the effects of prong
And another look
If there was a book its income miraculous things And literature, ethics and ensure the rights of every one could not be magician or a demon or anyone . only the God of world , is that
Indicates that the book is true and that render the word of God and believe all Maver

 

[Emoni]

It is difficult to talk to you and you are fanatics and militants Are you afraid Of the right ,why you don't want to see the evidence that prove the validity of the quran ,I hope you are all be as good cuz your all like my brothers. It is convenient to me that closed the subject but there some thing not visible maybe you help me to right. or make you believe what I say
but unfortunately you just avoid the question
my account did't give me access to put link's to japanes and american and arab and uk pepole and scientists join the islam and you see why you can find in google and youtub and mr emoni we are not in awar we are in adiscuss
and for my sister there's photo's to the moon you can see the effects of prong
And another look
If there was a book its income miraculous things And literature, ethics and ensure the rights of every one could not be magician or a demon or anyone . only the God of world , is that
Indicates that the book is true and that render the word of God and believe all Maver

How do you type two full paragraphs of ramblings yet only use two periods? Doesn't something seem wrong with that?

Again, you haven't posted ANYTHING except whining and complaining about not answering questions... that DON'T EXIST!

I'm done waiting for you to say anything. Even when you eventually do, it's not going to be comprehensible and will just be some crazy rant anyway.

Do yourself a favor and get a real education, or at least take some science classes.

 

[mohamed]

Emoni
you are very bad man And poor in ethics

what are you say mean that you have no answer and am the righ don't be like kid
answer me like a man or let other one tallk with me

look to you'r answer emoni you have no point just mockery

quieter and let us tallk with logic And tactful

 

[Emoni]

Emoni
you are very bad man And poor in ethics

This just made me smile, and I take pride in that you see me as that. I wouldn't want to be seen as someone like yourself that you like.

As for the rest... You're a troll kid, go else where. You're an illiterate, egomaniac of a religious troll, but just a troll none the less. You aren't actually saying anything and none of your posts have had content for the last week other than acting like there is something to respond to when you haven't actually POSTED anything yet.

You don't belong here, go join some forum with people your own age (10?) and talk to people who only mirror the insanity that comes out of your mouth. That seems to be all you want anyway, and it is clear that even if you could understand my posts, you wouldn't be able to accept them because they don't jive with your mindset anyway.

Cya kid. I wish I could say you were worth my time, but you weren't.

 

[mohamed]

*Ring ring*
Allah: Oh Jez, what is it NOW?!
*Picks up phone*
Muhammad: Um, Hey Allah um... sup?
Allah: *Sigh* What do you want now Muhammed
Muhammad: Um, well you see... there are these guys and... um they don't believe I can talk to you.
Allah: Um, yeah so? Kill them or something, that seems to be the popular thing to do anyway right?
Muhammad:Yeah, I know but...
Allah: But what... you want something again don't you.
Muhammad: Well, they said if I could split the moon in half they would believe me!
Allah: Well, they are morons. That would just be stupid.
Muhammad: But Allaaaaahhhhh
Allah: Don't "but Allaaaaahhhh" me Muhammad. this is the third time this week you've called me asking for stupid crap. I didn't give you my number so you could ask me to blow up rocks 'n sh*t. Can't you find better people to hang out with or something? Do you HAVE to have every single person believing you and thinking your just awesome cause I gave you my cell number?
Muhammad: Yeah, but these guys are cool! This time is different? Pleeeeease?!
Allah: That's what you said the last time!
Muhammad: But Allaaaaahhhhh
Allah: ....
Muhammad: Please????
Allah: This is so retarded... fine. I'll split it in half a bit, but I'm not going to leave any evidence of something so stupid like this for people in the future to hear about.
Muhammad: Thank you Allah I love you soooo much!!
Allah: Yeah yeah, I know, you say that all the time like I don't know how great I am already. Oh, and you better not write this stupid moon thing in your book. I don't want people laughing at me over this, you know how sensitive I am about that sort of thing!
Muhammad: Thank youuuuu! I promise I won't write about it! i gotta go now, my damn landlord Goldberg is being a ***** again and wanting the rent soon. I don't suppose you could give him cancer or something? Damn I hate that guy...
Allah: Oh will you just pay him already. All you do when you aren't asking for crap is whine about that Jewish guy, they were my buds way back when so chill k?
Muhammad: I hate that guy! I hate his whole damn Jewish family!
Allah: *sigh* Yea, you tell me every month when your rent is due. He's human just like you, and likes me too, so that makes him cool in my book.
Muhammad: Can't we just have a big murder spree or plague to kill all the Jews?
Allah: Um, no? Do you want me to give you rectal cancer? Cause if you start killing my old school hommies you're gonna be paying out your ***, and I don't mean metaphorically. Chill, and go tell your friends about the stupid moon show already.
Muhammad: Oh yeah! Ok, thanks Allah love you!
*click*
Allah: ... Hey! Jesus!
Jesus: Hey Pops!
Allah: How much was it to change cell phone plans again?
Jesus: I told you! There IS no other plan, Gabriel has a monopoly on that.
Allah: Can I at least change my number?
Jesus: ... earth doesn't HAVE cell phones so your "number" is still 1 you can't change it
Allah: But I'm... God! I can do anything.
Jesus: Yeah... ok, whatever. I'm gonna go out and chat with the Holy Spirit a bit, we still have that bet going for tonight!
Allah: Bah, fine. Have fun... Damn it, I need to get new hobby instead of playing with these desert nomads.

do you woona me see that and smile for you emoni
i did not mockery with any religion
and whatyou have done mean you have nothing to say

 

[RolandtheHeadless]

Mohamed, I have to go back to Occam's Razor. Under this principle, we should look for the simplest and most common explanation that explains all of the evidence that we have.

I saw your photo of the moon. It appears to show a crack or fault-line. It could well be that the moon's surface cracked or separated at that line. It doesn't necessarily follow that the moon came completely apart, then rejoined itself at that line.

We know that the earth has fault lines where its various tectonic plates separate and rub together. We can see fault lines on other astronomical objects, like the moons of Saturn and Jupiter, which seem to be caused by tidal forces (the gravity of these massive planets).

We have also seen incidents of meteors and comets striking the earth and other planets and moons, and can observe the impact damage they cause.

Putting all this available evidence together, the simplest and more common explanations are that the fault-line on the moon was caused by 1) internal processes in the moon (heating or cooling), 2) tidal forces caused by the earth's gravity, or 3) perhaps an impact by another object.

Your alternative explanation that a supernatural force (Allah) caused the moon to split in two, then be rejoined, is not the simplest and most common explanation that explains all the evidence. There is no evidence to support ALL of your explanation; no evidence that the moon came apart, as opposed to simply crack at that area. So your explanation is not even logically supported, fully, by the evidence.

I can't dismiss your explanation from the realm of possibility, but have to conclude that it is not the most likely one for the crack or seam that's shown in the photo.

Thank you for being civil in this discussion.

 

[mohamed]

Mr. RolandtheHeadless
thanxs for your

surat Al-Qamar
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

The hour drew nigh and the moon was rent in twain. (1) And if they behold a portent they turn away and say: Prolonged illusion. (2)
this is translate to the quran
what am try to say that what nasa show come Accordance with the quran and it was just one verses of the quran and if we say you'r right the moon did not split we will see in the quran many other things like
seas with convert with each othe and darknees in the seas and and internal waves
we can tallk about that


but about moon if we can't prove that the moon spilt we 2 can't say he did't spilt cuz we have aclear photo

 

[RolandtheHeadless]

We have a photo that shows a feature of the moon which can be interpreted in different ways. I think you're interpreting it the Koran's way because of your own cultural assumptions and religious beliefs. Science and logic do not compel your conclusion -- not when there are simpler and more common explanations.

I'm interested in this discussion because I know little about the Koran and had never before heard the story about the moon splitting in two. I can think of an example from the Christian Bible that is similar, though.

The Old Testament Bible speaks of a man called Noah. When God became angry with the wickedness of mankind, He decided to destroy human beings. All except for Noah, whom God saw as a righteous man. So God told Noah there would be a worldwide flood as deep as the highest mountains, that Noah should build a great ark and gather his family, plus two of every kind of animal, to survive the flood.

Scientists have found fossils of ancient sea creatures on the tops of mountains. Some Christians will claim that this is proof of a great flood in Noah's time. But scientists have dated these fossils as being hundreds of millions of years old, when homo sapiens did not exist. The Noah's Flood theory for these fossils does not explain this last evidence.

We have learned that the earth's surface consists of various tectonic plates that collide or rub together over the course of millions of years. This is what causes earthquakes. The prevailing science theory for the existence of these fossils on mountains is that the earth's tectonic action has caused the mountains to rise, so that fossils that were once on the sea floor are now kilometers higher.

The advent of GPS satellite technology, which can precisely locate positions and elevations, has confirmed tectonic theory. There has never been any scientific evidence to confirm Noah's flood.

I apologize that you must communicate in my language, while I am too ignorant to communicate in yours. Please think about this and take your time in replying.

 

[Hezam]

The Old Testament Bible speaks of a man called Noah. When God became angry with the wickedness of mankind, He decided to destroy human beings. All except for Noah, whom God saw as a righteous man. So God told Noah there would be a worldwide flood as deep as the highest mountains, that Noah should build a great ark and gather his family, plus two of every kind of animal, to survive the flood.

Yes this story is in Quran too.
This is the location of the ark :

Emoni,Making fun of Allah & Jesus & Muhammed is not what this thread created for.

 

[mohamed]

okay
about the Prophet of God Noah i will give you part of story

surat Hud
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

And We sent Noah unto his folk (and he said): Lo! I am a plain warner unto you. (25) That ye serve none, save Allah. Lo! I fear for you the retribution of a painful Day. (26) The chieftains of his folk, who disbelieved, said: We see thee but a mortal like us, and we see not that any follow thee save the most abject among us, without reflection. We behold in you no merit above us - nay, we deem you liars. (27) He said: O my people! Bethink you, if I rely on a clear proof from my Lord and there hath come unto me a mercy from His presence, and it hath been made obscure to you, can we compel you to accept it when ye are averse thereto? (28) And O my people! I ask of you no wealth therefor. My reward is the concern only of Allah, and I am not going to thrust away those who believe - Lo! they have to meet their Lord! - but I see you a folk that are ignorant. (29) And, O my people! who would deliver me from Allah if I thrust them away? Will ye not then reflect? (30) I say not unto you: "I have the treasures of Allah" nor "I have knowledge of the Unseen," nor say I: "Lo! I am an angel!" Nor say I unto those whom your eyes scorn that Allah will not give them good - Allah knoweth best what is in their hearts - Lo! then indeed I should be of the wrong-doers. (31) They said: O Noah! Thou hast disputed with us and multiplied disputation with us; now bring upon us that wherewith thou threatenest us, if thou art of the truthful. (32) He said: Only Allah will bring it upon you if He will, and ye can by no means escape. (33) My counsel will not profit you if I were minded to advise you, if Allah's will is to keep you astray. He is your Lord and unto Him ye will be brought back. (34) Or say they (again): He hath invented it? Say: If I have invented it, upon me be my crimes, but I am innocent of (all) that ye commit. (35) And it was inspired in Noah, (saying): No-one of thy folk will believe save him who hath believed already. Be not distressed because of what they do. (36) Build the ship under Our eyes and by Our inspiration, and speak not unto Me on behalf of those who do wrong. Lo! they will be drowned. (37) And he was building the ship, and every time that chieftains of his people passed him, they made mock of him. He said: Though ye make mock of Us, yet We mock at you even as ye mock; (38) And ye shall know to whom a punishment that will confound him cometh, and upon whom a lasting doom will fall. (39) (Thus it was) till, when Our commandment came to pass and the oven gushed forth water, We said: Load therein two of every kind, a pair (the male and female), and thy household, save him against whom the word hath gone forth already, and those who believe. And but a few were they who believed with him. (40) And he said: Embark therein! In the name of Allah be its course and its mooring. Lo! my Lord is Forgiving, Merciful. (41) And it sailed with them amid waves like mountains, and Noah cried unto his son - and he was standing aloof - O my son! Come ride with us, and be not with the disbelievers. (42) He said: I shall betake me to some mountain that will save me from the water. (Noah) said: This day there is none that saveth from the commandment of Allah save him on whom He hath had mercy. And the wave came in between them, so he was among the drowned. (43) And it was said: O earth! Swallow thy water and, O sky! be cleared of clouds! And the water was made to subside. And the commandment was fulfilled. And it (the ship) came to rest upon (the mount) Al-Judi and it was said: A far removal for wrongdoing folk! (44)

this is shortcut story and the story say that the shipp now in the( Judi )

what are we tray to say that book can't be with our hand from 1430 year with this miracle words

 

[mohamed]

DARKNESS IN THE SEAS AND INTERNAL WAVES

Or [the unbelievers' state] are like the darkness of a fathomless sea which is covered by waves above which are waves above which are clouds, layers of darkness, one upon the other. If he puts out his hand, he can scarcely see it. Those Allah gives no light to, they have no light. (Qur'an, 24:40)

Measurements made with today's technology have revealed that between 3 and 30 percent of the sunlight is reflected at the surface of the sea. Then, almost all of the seven colours of the light spectrum are absorbed, one after another, in the first 200 metres, except for blue light (picture at left). Below a depth of 1,000 metres, there is no light at all (above picture). This scientific fact was pointed out in Sura Nur 40 in the Qur'an 1,400 years ago.


In deep seas and oceans, the darkness is found at a depth of 200 meters and deeper. At this depth, there is almost no light, and below a depth of 1,000 meters there is no light at all.61

Today, we know about the general formation of the sea, the characteristics of the living things in it, its salinity, as well as the amount of water it contains, and its surface area and depth. Submarines and special equipment, developed with modern technology, have enabled scientists to obtain such information.

The picture to the left represents internal waves at interface between two layers of water of different densities. The lower layer is denser than the upper one. This scientific fact, declared in Sura Nur 40 of the Qur'an 14 centuries ago, has been discovered by today's scientists only very recently.

Human beings are not able to dive to a depth of more than 70 meters without the aid of special equipment. They cannot survive unaided in the dark depths of the oceans, such as at a depth of 200 meters. For these reasons, scientists have only recently been able to discover detailed information about the seas. However, that the depth of the sea is dark was revealed in the Qur'an 1,400 years ago. It is certainly one of the miracles of the Qur'an that such information was given at a time where no equipment to enable man to dive into the depths of the oceans was available.

In addition, the statement in Surat an-Nur 40 "ﾂ…like the darkness of a fathomless sea which is covered by waves above which are waves above which are cloudsﾂ…" draws our attention to another miracle of the Qur'an.

Scientists have only recently discovered that there are sub-surface waves, which "occur on density interfaces between layers of different densities." These internal waves cover the deep waters of seas and oceans because deep water has a higher density than the water above it. Internal waves act like surface waves. They can break, just like surface waves. Internal waves cannot be discerned by the human eye, but they can be detected by studying temperature or salinity changes at a given location.62

The statements in the Qur'an run parallel precisely the above explanation. Certainly, this fact, which scientists has discovered very recently, shows once again that the Qur'an is the word of Allah.

 

[Mycernius]

There was no global flood, there has never been a global flood and there will never be a global flood. The entire Noah myth is nicked from Sumerian myth and the Epic of Gilgamesh. Do you know why I know there was no global flood? Because there is zero evidence for it, none at all, zilch, zip, bugger all. Noah did not exist, the ark did not exist. I am fed up with people who do not know anything about science trying to prove that their mythical book is in fact scientific. Well it isn't, get over it. If the quran is such a great and wonderful scietific tome then why oh why are islamic countries failing so dismally at science and education? Why have all the recent discoveries that are so called mentioned in the quran been discovered and investiigated in the west, giving us the technological breakthroughs of today? If the quran is such a wonderful piece of science then why wasn't any of this knowledge put into practice 1400 years ago when it was revealed? Why don't the islamic countries lead the way in science?

I give you reasons why and the main one is that the quran is NOT A SCIENCE BOOK. Name one piece, one single piece of science that has come from the quran before someone has discovered it? You can't because it is easier to retrofit science into vague texts of a dusty old tome that should have gone the way of the dinosaurs.

Do you know that in the past, during the dark ages in Europe that islamic astronomers actually knew real science and studied the stars, that they studied medicine? They did this from older greek texts and using observation. At no point did they sit around staring at incoherant babblings of a desert warlord. Thoses ancient and wise muslim scholars of ages past would be rolling in their collective graves if they knew the shite that is coming out of islam now.

I could just as easily claim that ancient Egyptian myths are scientific. Take for example one myth of the creation of man. (they had several) The creation of man was from the tears of Amun-ra. Well this must be true because humans are 70% water and when we sweat sweat is salty, just like tears. It is more scientific than we were created from dust and dirt. How about the creation of then universe? Egyptian myth talks of a cosmic egg. Well when the big bang theory was first put forward by a catholic preist he likened it to an egg. They talk of all life coming from the waters. Well life on earth began in the oceans. There we have proof that the Egyptians were right and we should all bow down and worship Amun-ra.

I can play this game with Japanese mythology as well if you want. Let's see the formation of the earth.

In the meantime what was heavy and opaque in the void gradually precipitated and became the earth, but it had taken an immeasurably long time before it condensed sufficiently to form solid ground.

Well we have evidence of accretion disks around stars that from planets. Current theory states that the earth and the other planets condensed out of the accretion disk around the sun billions of years ago. Okay, this shows that Shinto is scientific, we must worship the Japanese gods.
I could continue with the thousands of other myths, but you get my point. It is easy to retrofit things into stories past.

By claiming that the quran is a science book you are spitting on the work of great men and women of the past and it disgusts me

 

[Haruspex]

There was no global flood, there has never been a global flood and there will never be a global flood. The entire Noah myth is nicked from Sumerian myth and the Epic of Gilgamesh. Do you know why I know there was no global flood? Because there is zero evidence for it, none at all, zilch, zip, bugger all. Noah did not exist, the ark did not exist. I am fed up with people who do not know anything about science trying to prove that their mythical book is in fact scientific. Well it isn't, get over it. If the quran is such a great and wonderful scietific tome then why oh why are islamic countries failing so dismally at science and education? Why have all the recent discoveries that are so called mentioned in the quran been discovered and investiigated in the west, giving us the technological breakthroughs of today? If the quran is such a wonderful piece of science then why wasn't any of this knowledge put into practice 1400 years ago when it was revealed? Why don't the islamic countries lead the way in science?

I give you reasons why and the main one is that the quran is NOT A SCIENCE BOOK. Name one piece, one single piece of science that has come from the quran before someone has discovered it? You can't because it is easier to retrofit science into vague texts of a dusty old tome that should have gone the way of the dinosaurs.

Do you know that in the past, during the dark ages in Europe that islamic astronomers actually knew real science and studied the stars, that they studied medicine? They did this from older greek texts and using observation. At no point did they sit around staring at incoherant babblings of a desert warlord. Thoses ancient and wise muslim scholars of ages past would be rolling in their collective graves if they knew the shite that is coming out of islam now.

I could just as easily claim that ancient Egyptian myths are scientific. Take for example one myth of the creation of man. (they had several) The creation of man was from the tears of Amun-ra. Well this must be true because humans are 70% water and when we sweat sweat is salty, just like tears. It is more scientific than we were created from dust and dirt. How about the creation of then universe? Egyptian myth talks of a cosmic egg. Well when the big bang theory was first put forward by a catholic preist he likened it to an egg. They talk of all life coming from the waters. Well life on earth began in the oceans. There we have proof that the Egyptians were right and we should all bow down and worship Amun-ra.

I can play this game with Japanese mythology as well if you want. Let's see the formation of the earth.

Well we have evidence of accretion disks around stars that from planets. Current theory states that the earth and the other planets condensed out of the accretion disk around the sun billions of years ago. Okay, this shows that Shinto is scientific, we must worship the Japanese gods.
I could continue with the thousands of other myths, but you get my point. It is easy to retrofit things into stories past.

By claiming that the quran is a science book you are spitting on the work of great men and women of the past and it disgusts me

This should be stickied and codified as a supplementary text for interpreting the rules of Serious Discussion. Then we'd have no problem with people spouting bollocks. This whole religious science thing crops up all the time. The arguments are the same, the counter-arguments are the same and the results are the same, namely that zealots fail to learn anything from the whole thing. I think this post reflects the rage and frustration most reasonable members frequenting Serious Discussion feel.

 

[mohamed]

frist Mycernius
don't say that about quran we are not in a street discussion
and you make me feel that i am Refer to the sun and you're telling me no this is not the sun I see only darkness
and am did't Preaching any one to tell me that is against Jref rules
and if there's action you will taken it do it for who Insults religions and lack of morals and do not respect others

 

[Mycernius]

This thread is now locked as it has turned into "Why I think islam is the greatest thread and you are all wrong and if you dare criticise I will say you insult me and my religion" and not its original question. Plus frankly I am fed up with it and I have a feeling that other members are too.

A poll thread has been started with a similar question, but will not be allowed to turn into the mess that this one has.