Virginia Tech incident and Japan

[KirinMan]

In addition, the majority of people who legally purchase firearms do so for hunting or self-protection purposes and never fire them in anger or self-defense.

While I may disagree with you about some of the points you make in you posts on this thread I do respect your opinion.

The biggest thing I have a problem with in this quote is the "or self protection" part. American's in general have gotten to the point where they do not feel safe in their homes anymore and society in general is to blame for that.

The underlying social problems that force people into having to purchase a weapon for self protection are in my opinion unforgiveable.

I also agree that guns are not the problem in and of themselves, of course it is the people. Guns don't kill anything, we all know that. However because of the history of gun ownership in America things will never change. People in general no longer fear the consequences of committing a crime.

The moral and ethical fiber of the country has changed so much that many people ito me no longer have or seemingly are not taught self respect, respect for others, and self responsibility, nor respect for life. Everything comes down to me first, or I can't be held responsible for my actions because of my social status, lack of education, or some other excuse.

This is not an attack on America in anyway shape or form, just a few observations that I have seen as an American living overseas.

 

[GodEmperorLeto]

While I may disagree with you about some of the points you make in you posts on this thread I do respect your opinion.

Thanks.

American's in general have gotten to the point where they do not feel safe in their homes anymore and society in general is to blame for that.
The underlying social problems that force people into having to purchase a weapon for self protection are in my opinion unforgiveable.

Actually, I agree with you 100% here, but these social problems aren't something that can be solved by the government, in my opinion, but by people getting up and solving it together.

People in general no longer fear the consequences of committing a crime.

People only resort to violent crime if they believe they have no better alternatives. Things have to get so bad that they lose any regard for the value of life. It isn't about consequences so much as it is about having nothing to lose.

The moral and ethical fiber of the country has changed so much that many people ito me no longer have or seemingly are not taught self respect, respect for others, and self responsibility, nor respect for life. Everything comes down to me first, or I can't be held responsible for my actions because of my social status, lack of education, or some other excuse.
This is not an attack on America in anyway shape or form, just a few observations that I have seen as an American living overseas.

Again, you and I are right in line on this one. I agree with you 100%.

Where we differ is our conclusions, then, it seems.

 

[nocomment1]

Yes guns are dangerous and America is dangerous. Let's all move to Europe and go watch a soccer game...much safer right?
Point being that there are dangers all around you everywhere you go. No where is completely safe and there are crazy people everywhere who could snap at anytime. I mean no disrespect to our European breathren, but let's not turn these threads into an attack on America. Let's stick to the discussion at hand.

good point

i wanna go watch some soccer:wavey:

 

[caster51]

american history and Gun