Jpop VS Jrock... Split it?
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Kinsao
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- 8 May 2005
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Maybe some of the 'lighter' rock could be seen that way, but in general no.yukio_michael said:
Although I wouldn't phrase it in Yokan's way either.
Some rock is nearer to 'pop' in style, or some has a same derivation.
And you could see that some of the most popular rock, is kind of watered down in terms of its 'rockness' (not sure how else to phrase it).
But Japan also has, uhhh, 'proper' rock
And there are heavy metal and punk and grindcore bands and stuff as well.
In fact, all the different genres of music you find everywhere else.
And some musicians cross between genres.
But that's not really what this thread is about.
Yeah, what Kinsao said 
It seems most of us, myself included, are all into splitting at least some things. Anyone who had voted to keep things as they are care to share their input? I know the categorization issue might still haunt some people, but are there any other concerns people might have?
It seems most of us, myself included, are all into splitting at least some things. Anyone who had voted to keep things as they are care to share their input? I know the categorization issue might still haunt some people, but are there any other concerns people might have?
DemonHunter
Psychedelic Man
- 23 Apr 2005
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Split it!
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Split it into good music and bad music, it would be funnier to see how everybody discuss about it rather than useless polls where we will probably see arguments like: "I guess it is rock, it has an electric guitar on it!!" or "it is pop, the singer is so kawaii "
Thanks a lot... hahahaha.
"Thanks a lot... hahahaha.
Child_prey
Sakurai Atsushi
- 24 Jun 2005
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It doesn't really matter if it is jrock or jpop, many artists mix those two (Gackt etc) so it' OK to post them in the same place but I think that maybe it should be changed to Jmusic, that would be a more fair name to it where all music styles can be discussed.
Yokan said:Just change the name 'j-pop' to 'j-music'?...
I think that will be included as one of the changes.
Actually, the fact that there is in fact some discussion on it at the very least indicates that there are severe problems in things as it is. The point is: it hasn't worked well. (hint: read Dutch Baka's first post here, and the subsequent replies)
(sorry for the double-post. the editing bug struck again, but now it seems to be fine...)
Yep. The tyranny of cursory reading...
The problem with many people who argue for it staying the same is that they keep treading on territory that's already been discussed. I've no problems otherwise, as long as they build upon the discussion, not force us to go back. As it stands, they don't seem to acknowledge why others think it's a problem. So please, I'll reiterate:
Read the first post to understand why we are discussing this.
To make things extra-easy, I'll even take you by the hand and show you that the post can be found here.
Jpop VS Jrock... Split it?
Dutch Baka said:
Yep. The tyranny of cursory reading...
The problem with many people who argue for it staying the same is that they keep treading on territory that's already been discussed. I've no problems otherwise, as long as they build upon the discussion, not force us to go back. As it stands, they don't seem to acknowledge why others think it's a problem. So please, I'll reiterate:
Read the first post to understand why we are discussing this.
To make things extra-easy, I'll even take you by the hand and show you that the post can be found here.
Jpop VS Jrock... Split it?
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My opinion in a nutshell.
I would have to agree with Dutch Baka for several reasons.
1. If the Administration can find the time to start a NEW FORUM for China, they should be able to have the time to do this for J-pop.
2. I have blocked the J-pop category partly for the reasons given in the OP. If there was a separate category for just regular popular Japanese music, a la Dreams Come True, Spitz, Puffy, etc., I would not block that unless it turned into the same condition as J-rock is now. Somehow I doubt that would happen any time soon.
3. I have posted in the current J-pop section on a few occasions. Therefore it is true that I for one do have interest in J-pop, but the current torrent of J-rock posts acts as a deterrent to my reading/posting of said threads.
4. It is a high traffic area, so it seems to me to deserve some special attention and categorization to foster its health. I think DB's suggestion is a good start.
That's all for now. I have to get to bed soon!
I would have to agree with Dutch Baka for several reasons.
1. If the Administration can find the time to start a NEW FORUM for China, they should be able to have the time to do this for J-pop.
2. I have blocked the J-pop category partly for the reasons given in the OP. If there was a separate category for just regular popular Japanese music, a la Dreams Come True, Spitz, Puffy, etc., I would not block that unless it turned into the same condition as J-rock is now. Somehow I doubt that would happen any time soon.
3. I have posted in the current J-pop section on a few occasions. Therefore it is true that I for one do have interest in J-pop, but the current torrent of J-rock posts acts as a deterrent to my reading/posting of said threads.
4. It is a high traffic area, so it seems to me to deserve some special attention and categorization to foster its health. I think DB's suggestion is a good start.
That's all for now. I have to get to bed soon!
- 8 Mar 2005
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Maybe if we combined 8 or 10 of the 7 page threads about which Visual Kei artists has the cutest bellybutton into one thread, there would be more room to talk about showa period pop music... but that won't happen.
- 5 Feb 2005
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Sugargirl_ said:
Hi Sugargirl , welcome to Jref...
why shouldn't there be a split? only Jrock gets attention on this forum, and Jpop and other music not at all.. so thats the reason that there should be a split....
WE are still waiting, HOPING FOR AN MODERATOR OR ADVISOR TO SAY SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- 8 Mar 2005
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Here's a thought, not everyone likes the exact same thing as you do.Sugargirl_ said:
