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is any grammer for compound words
like
gaku+kou=gakkou
saku+kyoku = sakkyoku
why this words are changed
 
is any grammer for compound words
like
gaku+kou=gakkou
saku+kyoku = sakkyoku
why this words are changed

It is not really the changes of word but more of the changes of pronunciation.
A very simple explanation is that saying "k" twice needs extra efforts* and it is much easier to put two kk together.
I hope you can feel the difference by saying "gakukou" and "gakkou" yourself several times...

*The sound [k] is voiceless velar stop
Voiceless velar plosive - Wikipedia

This kind of "change" is not particular to Japanese language;
Connected speech and coarticulation
 
That's an interesting essay, there, undrentide. It also explains the devoicing of /i/ and /u/ in Japanese pretty well, and that they are actually there, even if you don't really hear them. Every time I think of examples of that, the word 業務上過失致死 comes to mind, where the end just sounds like a bunch of "sh" and "ch" strung together.

Along those lines, it's interesting, although I suppose not too surprising, to see that even in English sentences where sounds seem to go missing, we're actually making at least an attempt to produce them. I'm not sure I've ever thought about it in those terms, but it makes sense now that it's been pointed out. Also, I didn't realize that all the vowels in "morning" were nasalized before reading that. Haha, I keep saying it to check, and sure enough!
 
Yeah, interesting indeed. Probably the followings can be examples of "private set of rules in Japanese".

作曲[○sakkyoku sakukyoku]
試作曲[○shisakukyoku shisakkyoku]

引っ込む[○hikkomu hikikomu](Both are possible, but the meanings are different.)
引越し[○hikkoshi hikikoshi]
引込み線[○hikikomisen hikkomisen]
引籠り[○hikikomori hikkomori]
 
Doesn't at least some of that have to do with morpheme boundaries? 作曲 and 試作曲 especially seem to be an example of that.
 
Exactly. Probably this issue has much to do with when 連濁 or 連声 happens.
 
Ah, that's the first time I've come across 連声. And as a result, also the first time (I can remember) coming across こんにった.
 
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