Japan to enhance biometric authentication technique

Chidoriashi · 19 Jan 2010

Reyter said:
One thing I won't have to put up with in China is flagrant fascists anywhere let alone in police and immigration/customs services. The Party in China doesn't like them at all and still has them shot! I guess the Party isn't very fond of fascists. Do you have any idea why this would be? The only thing that really annoys me in Japan is the fascist element. In Chengdu I was drinking beer with several policemen and women. They were really cool! I certainly couldn't imagine that in Japan!

Of course there is also the economic reality of Japan and China.......

Reyter could you please give us your defintion of what facism is... from what I collect it is anybody who subjects you to do something you feel you should not have to do particularly because of what you believe to be a racist attitude.. is that about right?

What makes you think China and Chinese authorities are going to be your buddy? This is a country know for its human rights violations... its information blocking and state control. Do you like Facebook? do you like Youtube?... if you do, you better "un-like" them because they are blocked in China. If you get into it with a Chinese local and the cops show up and you are acting like you do here.. you think they are going to treat you well..? I would imagine you will end up in jail.. possibly with a bullet in your head. I'm pretty sure that if you try to assert your "rights" while you are in China, you will find yourself having a very, very very bad day

Reyter · 19 Jan 2010

Astroboy said:
I am still wondering WHY the Chinese woman tried to enter Japan by developing "fake" fingerprints, while you say Japan is the country of highly "dissatified" with idiots custom checks. :?

I have no idea why she tried to enter. I am just surprised it made the news.

I think you misunderstood my statement about people being "highly dissatisfied" with immigration. I don't mean to be too harsh. I have never had a problem at Narita though my brother came to visit and he is based in China but travels abroad at least 20 times a year and that is all over the world including USA, Germany, India and Russia (and as i said, he is based in China) and he said at Narita was the first and only time ever customs had looked through his bag and then he didn't get an apology when the customs idiot finished.

Chidoriashi said:
Reyter could you please give us your defintion of what facism is... from what I collect it is anybody who subjects you to do something you feel you should not have to do particularly because of what you believe to be a racist attitude.. is that about right?
What makes you think China and Chinese authorities are going to be your buddy? This is a country know for its human rights violations... its information blocking and state control. Do you like Facebook? do you like Youtube?... if you do, you better "un-like" them because they are blocked in China. If you get into it with a Chinese local and the cops show up and you are acting like you do here.. you think they are going to treat you well..? I would imagine you will end up in jail.. possibly with a bullet in your head. I'm pretty sure that if you try to assert your "rights" while you are in China, you will find yourself having a very, very very bad day

"human rights violations" LOL You sound like a CNN newscast. I will not waste my time with you anymore only to say, you should actually go there and see how things are and meet people and whatever you hear on CNN your first instinct should be that at best it is a flagrant distortion of the truth.

Astroboy · 19 Jan 2010

Reyter said:
I have no idea why she tried to enter. I am just surprised it made the news.
I think you misunderstood my statement about people being "highly dissatisfied" with immigration. I don't mean to be too harsh. I have never had a problem at Narita though my brother came to visit and he is based in China but travels abroad at least 20 times a year and that is all over the world including USA, Germany, India and Russia (and as i said, he is based in China) and he said at Narita was the first and only time ever customs had looked through his bag and then he didn't get an apology when the customs idiot finished.

Random check at airport custom is a job of custom officer, I think.
I think that your story is a bit strange to me. Why you believe apology is necessary at airport custom?

Or Chinese love apology at any time ? :?

Chidoriashi · 19 Jan 2010

Reyter said:
I have no idea why she tried to enter. I am just surprised it made the news.
I think you misunderstood my statement about people being "highly dissatisfied" with immigration. I don't mean to be too harsh. I have never had a problem at Narita though my brother came to visit and he is based in China but travels abroad at least 20 times a year and that is all over the world including USA, Germany, India and Russia (and as i said, he is based in China) and he said at Narita was the first and only time ever customs had looked through his bag and then he didn't get an apology when the customs idiot finished.

"human rights violations" LOL You sound like a CNN newscast. I will not waste my time with you anymore only to say, you should actually go there and see how things are and meet people and whatever you hear on CNN your first instinct should be that at best it is a flagrant distortion of the truth.

Ok, well since you once again are choosing not to have a discussion with me I will leave with this and just say that I think your decision is obvious. You don't like it here, you can't be happy here etc, so do yourself and Japan a favor and pack up your bags and leave. I don't know why you keep bothering b*tching about it on internet forums. Since there is nothing discuss, stop wasting your own time online and take some action.

Reyter · 19 Jan 2010

Astroboy said:
Random check at airport custom is a job of custom officer, I think.
I think that your story is a bit strange to me. Why you believe apology is necessary at airport custom?
Or Chinese love apology at any time ? :?

Since when do customs pull people aside for random baggage checks? I thought they only did it with people they considered suspicious. That's right, he has white skin too so he was obviously suspicious to the customs idiot!

I don't know if Chinese customs would apologize. I have been in and out about 10 times at 3 different ports and have never had any problem. When using immigration they have a machine right on the counter where one can choose ones level of satisfaction. From "Very satisfied" to "very dissatisfied". The only time I have used it is to choose "very satisfied". I presume they have a similar mechanism to ensure customs are doing their jobs without little power trips that piss the traveler off.

Astroboy · 19 Jan 2010

Reyter said:
he was obviously suspicious to the customs idiot!

You know very well ... "suspicious"

Reyter · 19 Jan 2010

Astroboy said:
You know very well ... "suspicious"

Right. Is that supposed to be some kind of joke?

Astroboy · 24 Jan 2010

Japan: a promised land for S. Korean prostitutes

The Internet advertisement guaranteed financial rewards almost unimaginable in the prevailing economic gloom: "Why not go to Japan, where you can earn 20 million won (about 1.55 million yen) a month with ease!" If there was something risky about the opportunity, it didn't deter more than 80 women across South Korea from sending off applications for the job, convinced that here were riches too great to pass up in tough times.....

On May 18, the Gyeonggi Police Agency near Seoul arrested the man on suspicion of sending the women to work at 14 sex businesses in Kawasaki. An official at the agency said the tale had become a familiar one for the recent era of financial hardship, which has driven hundreds of desperate South Korean women into the Japanese sex industry in search of lucrative rewards.

"Women who've lost jobs in the recession or in the ongoing police raids on the sex industry have been attracted by the appreciation of the yen, so they're going to Japan in search of work," the official said.
South Korean police have been cracking down on illegal sex services since summer last year, apparently as part of a public relations campaign to win approval from a critical public.

According to South Korean media, police rounded up 9,317 men, 2,608 women and 2,780 companies in April and May alone on suspicion of being involved in prostitution. It was around this time that former sex workers began turning to Japan to sustain their livelihood.

An advertisement to recruit prostitutes for work in Japan assured that: "Compared with Cheongnyangni and Yongsan (major adult entertainment districts in Seoul), the same job in Japan has a third of the hardship but three times the number of customers." A different ad promised: "You can earn 10,000 yen in 10 minutes!" ..........
The Asahi Shimbun | Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis

I think Korean sex industry aims to develop more market in Japan ... and thus Korean women try to enter Japan by developing new technology to fool Japan's passport control.

Meanwhile, I don't know specific reasons why Chinese women developed the new technology.... or maybe the same reason.

Astroboy · 25 Jan 2010

Japan's Jiji Press said .... Kanagawa Prefecture Police arrested 2 Korean women, who illegally entered Japan, using semi-transparant tape on their fingers. Japan Ministry of Justice said they used fake fingerprint tapes.
http://www.jiji.com/jc/c?g=soc_30&k=2010012500550

I think ..... this Korean technology will be used by terrorists, who aim to enter USA or others as well.
Be careful.

Reyter · 25 Jan 2010

Astroboy said:
Japan's Jiji Press said .... Kanagawa Prefecture Police arrested 2 Korean women, who illegally entered Japan, using semi-transparant tape on their fingers. Japan Ministry of Justice said they used fake fingerprint tapes.
http://www.jiji.com/jc/c?g=soc_30&k=2010012500550
I think ..... this Korean technology will be used by terrorists, who aim to enter USA or others as well.
Be careful.

That's nice. And may i ask why you are telling me this? Why do you reply to me but then delete my quote? You really are very weird!

On the other hand, it just goes to show the idiocy of Japanese immigration and the way they go out of their way to piss foreigners off with a system so easily fooled.

Another reason why China is starting to dominate this region of the world. That is; by working and building things while the Japanese public security services are f**king around with stupid little gadgets that don't work in order to stroke their egos while mafia criminals run rampant. You seem to be proud of it............

Reyter · 25 Jan 2010

Astroboy said:
Japan: a promised land for S. Korean prostitutes
The Internet advertisement guaranteed financial rewards almost unimaginable in the prevailing economic gloom: "Why not go to Japan, where you can earn 20 million won (about 1.55 million yen) a month with ease!" If there was something risky about the opportunity, it didn't deter more than 80 women across South Korea from sending off applications for the job, convinced that here were riches too great to pass up in tough times.....
On May 18, the Gyeonggi Police Agency near Seoul arrested the man on suspicion of sending the women to work at 14 sex businesses in Kawasaki. An official at the agency said the tale had become a familiar one for the recent era of financial hardship, which has driven hundreds of desperate South Korean women into the Japanese sex industry in search of lucrative rewards.
"Women who've lost jobs in the recession or in the ongoing police raids on the sex industry have been attracted by the appreciation of the yen, so they're going to Japan in search of work," the official said.
South Korean police have been cracking down on illegal sex services since summer last year, apparently as part of a public relations campaign to win approval from a critical public.
According to South Korean media, police rounded up 9,317 men, 2,608 women and 2,780 companies in April and May alone on suspicion of being involved in prostitution. It was around this time that former sex workers began turning to Japan to sustain their livelihood.
An advertisement to recruit prostitutes for work in Japan assured that: "Compared with Cheongnyangni and Yongsan (major adult entertainment districts in Seoul), the same job in Japan has a third of the hardship but three times the number of customers." A different ad promised: "You can earn 10,000 yen in 10 minutes!" ..........
The Asahi Shimbun | Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis
I think Korean sex industry aims to develop more market in Japan ... and thus Korean women try to enter Japan by developing new technology to fool Japan's passport control.
Meanwhile, I don't know specific reasons why Chinese women developed the new technology.... or maybe the same reason.

Are you proud that so many Japanese guys want to pay a lot of money for sex with women from other countries? Don't you think it would be better of they were to spend money that is going to benefit the Japanese economy? Are you aware of what a mess the Japanese economy is? If China closed off its borders to Japanese imports it would surely have a negative impact on the Chinese economy but would meanwhile devastate what is left of the Japanese economy.

In China and Hong Kong the only places where there is any Japanese language displayed is outside sex establishments. It is always "マッサージ". If I were Japanese it would make me so ashamed. These guys can't get laid unless they pay for it is the only message it could send. Meanwhile a lot of them probably have a Japanese wife and family back in Japan.

Again, you seem proud of it but i already knew how weird you were so it's not really very surprising.

Astroboy · 26 Jan 2010

Reyter said:
Are you proud that so many Japanese guys want to pay a lot of money for sex with women from other countries? Don't you think it would be better of they were to spend money that is going to benefit the Japanese economy? Are you aware of what a mess the Japanese economy is? If China closed off its borders to Japanese imports it would surely have a negative impact on the Chinese economy but would meanwhile devastate what is left of the Japanese economy.

In China and Hong Kong the only places where there is any Japanese language displayed is outside sex establishments. It is always "ﾆ筑ﾆ鍛ﾆ探ﾂーﾆ淡". If I were Japanese it would make me so ashamed. These guys can't get laid unless they pay for it is the only message it could send. Meanwhile a lot of them probably have a Japanese wife and family back in Japan.

Again, you seem proud of it but i already knew how weird you were so it's not really very surprising.

Yeah, there seems to be many "Chinese massage parlors" in Shijuku, Ikebukuro, Kawasaki of Tokyo as well as across Japan. Though I don't know what kind of massage is offered, as Japan does not allow migraton of massage workers into Japan, they must use Korean technology. It is likely that fake fingerprinting technology is now becoming popular among certain types of Chinese/Koreans. Very interesting, isn't it?

Astroboy · 26 Jan 2010

Reyter said:
China is starting to dominate this region of the world.............

I wonder why the people of such a economic superpower need to use fake fingerprinting technology in an attempt to fool immigration.

Are there anything wrong in th superpower ? or my misunderstanding ?

Reyter · 27 Jan 2010

Astroboy said:
Yeah, there seems to be many "Chinese massage parlors" in Shijuku, Ikebukuro, Kawasaki of Tokyo as well as across Japan. Though I don't know what kind of massage is offered, as Japan does not allow migraton of massage workers into Japan, they must use Korean technology. It is likely that fake fingerprinting technology is now becoming popular among certain types of Chinese/Koreans. Very interesting, isn't it?

Hmmmm in case you aren't aware, the vast majority of women working in the sex industry in Japan are homegrown. If Japanese guys are stupid enough to pay Chinese and Korean women a lot of money to sit with them and make small talk, I think that is good for the Chinese and Koreans who get a lot of that money while the Japanese economy goes from bad worse and Japan fades into irrelevance in the face of Chinese growth.

What is it with you and Chinese and Korean women? I think you must have been jilted quite badly by one them. ☝ I feel sorry for you but how could they possibly like you?

Astroboy · 28 Jan 2010

Reyter said:
Hmmmm in case you aren't aware, the vast majority of women working in the sex industry in Japan are homegrown. If Japanese guys are stupid enough to pay Chinese and Korean women a lot of money to sit with them and make small talk, I think that is good for the Chinese and Koreans who get a lot of that money while the Japanese economy goes from bad worse and Japan fades into irrelevance in the face of Chinese growth.
What is it with you and Chinese and Korean women? I think you must have been jilted quite badly by one them. ☝ I feel sorry for you but how could they possibly like you?

This thread is about fake fingrprinting technolofy and how to enhance the system, I think.

By the way, do you have similar problem in China ?

Reyter · 28 Jan 2010

Astroboy said:
This thread is about fake fingrprinting technolofy and how to enhance the system, I think.
By the way, do you have similar problem in China ?

In China immigration doesn't make people submit to fingerprinting. Foreigner or otherwise even though China does have serious security problems while Japan doesn't. Once again, it just further underlines the idiocy of Japanese immigration and those who give orders to it.

Spending time (the time of foreigners coming in and the immigration idiots themselves) and money to piss foreigners off in order to stoke their very small egos on technology that is easily defeated by Korean hostesses while the Japanese economy goes from bad to worse. Either those hostesses are very smart or the Japanese people enacting and those enforcing this are very stupid! Which do you think it is? Perhaps a combination of the two?

Astroboy · 28 Jan 2010

Reyter said:
In China immigration doesn't make people submit to fingerprinting.

Good to hear !
That's why China is named as People's Republic ! China must be Heaven !

Reyter · 28 Jan 2010

Astroboy said:
Good to hear !
That's why China is named as People's Republic ! China must be Heaven !

Well in this society it usually comes down to a question of how much money one has but I like China. Whether or not it is "heaven" is obviously a matter of opinion. Dealing with immigration and customs, compared to Japan it may well be "heaven". That is a fact!

Astroboy · 28 Jan 2010

Reyter said:
Well in this society it usually comes down to a question of how much money one has but I like China. Whether or not it is "heaven" is obviously a matter of opinion. Dealing with immigration and customs, compared to Japan it may well be "heaven". That is a fact!

Very Good to hear ! You must be an angel !! from heaven.

Reyter · 28 Jan 2010

Astroboy said:
Very Good to hear ! You must be an angel !! from heaven.

What??? Is that supposed to be another of your "jokes"? Not too bright, are you? What else would one expect from any nationalist anywhere?

Astroboy · 29 Jan 2010

Reyter said:
What??? Is that supposed to be another of your "jokes"? Not too bright, are you? What else would one expect from any nationalist anywhere?

No Joke. I am always serious ! You must be a Super Angel !!

Reyter · 31 Jan 2010

Astroboy said:
No Joke. I am always serious ! You must be a Super Angel !!

How did you know? I am keeping a close eye on you. Be very careful.

Astroboy · 31 Jan 2010

Reyter said:
How did you know? I am keeping a close eye on you. Be very careful.

So Fake fingerprinting is still popular in a Heaven ? Mr Angel ?

Reyter · 31 Jan 2010

Astroboy said:
So Fake fingerprinting is still popular in a Heaven ? Mr Angel ?

We are quite civilized in heaven. We only make those arrested for crimes submit to fingerprinting.

Astroboy · 31 Jan 2010

Reyter said:
We are quite civilized in heaven. We only make those arrested for crimes submit to fingerprinting.

This is the first time in my life to hear that Somebody is telling "We are quite civilized .... "

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