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[aardwolf]

ﾅｽq窶ｹﾅｸ窶堙俄?版?窶堙槐ｽﾅｾﾂ「ﾂ。ﾂ。ﾂ。ﾂ。窶堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶堋｢窶堋｢ﾂ」窶堙??堋｢窶堋､ﾅ陳ｾ窶堋｢窶｢ﾃｻ窶堙坂?卩｡窶扣窶堋ｷ窶堋ｬ窶堙??堋ｨ窶堋ｩ窶堋ｵ窶堋｢窶堋ｩ窶堙?

窶堋ｻ窶堋､窶堋ｩﾂ？ﾂ


ﾆ痴ﾆ停?ｦﾆ蛋ﾆ椎槌稚ﾆ叩ﾆ誰ﾆ歎ﾆ棚ﾆ停?慊：
This is from your other thread "book help needed", lol

My studies are going well, thanks!
I'm thinking of taking the jlpt3 but I don't think my kanji are up to snuff. Honestly, I love studying Japanese but I can't sit myself down to remembering the kanji and just study like I can with Japanese grammar.

How are your studies going?

 

[Putrefaction]

I'm exactly the opposite of you, I got ~800 Kanji down but am slowly forgetting readings and how to write and sometimes what they mean, as I study more grammar and vocab it too is starting to slip away. Plus, I never do get them perfect, I always mess up on tenses and readings and such. I'm also going to try to take the JLPT3 maybe next year.

I usually do a thorough review from 1-where I am every few months, I think at the end of the summer I will have to do one again.

 

[aardwolf]

Woah, nice!
I'm hoping to get a ds and some kanji games to up my kanji skill lol.

I think eventually it will all even out you know?

that review idea is pretty smart, ill have to adopt that

 

[Putrefaction]

Well, the only reason I do the review is the reason I stated above, I can't keep everything in my head between school, work and Japanese, so I do the review. It's kind of like taking a semester and then studying for a test, you know? For example I stated that I did a complete Genki review, there were a lot of words I remember doing but I forgot! I also have to do a bit of grammar, hopefully you're right and I can tie them both together. I have Kanji Trainer for the PSP, unfortunately I can't use it yet as I don't know all the vocab, and my friend has my DS. iPhone, I have three Japanese applications and one dictionary. No grammar as of yet, all Kanji and stuff.

You're probably doing it the better way, though, 800 Kanji and I can't use a good 400 of them.

 

[aardwolf]

Well, the only reason I do the review is the reason I stated above, I can't keep everything in my head between school, work and Japanese, so I do the review. It's kind of like taking a semester and then studying for a test, you know? For example I stated that I did a complete Genki review, there were a lot of words I remember doing but I forgot! I also have to do a bit of grammar, hopefully you're right and I can tie them both together. I have Kanji Trainer for the PSP, unfortunately I can't use it yet as I don't know all the vocab, and my friend has my DS. iPhone, I have three Japanese applications and one dictionary. No grammar as of yet, all Kanji and stuff.
You're probably doing it the better way, though, 800 Kanji and I can't use a good 400 of them.

Oh very nice, well that makes sense.
oh, i didnt know there were kanji games for the psp! thats cool, but i think the ds is the better choice with the stylus and all oh yeah, the iphone is good for japanese things, what dictionary do you use?

 

[Putrefaction]

I use the free one, kotoba. I have "Kanji" by lima sky (99c) iKanji (9.99, recent, nothing that Kanji doesnt do but kinda owrth it), another iKanji for 99c that is worthless for me at this point. Kotoba is amazing. romaji, partials, you name it. Now that copy paste exists, is gonna be aweosme.

 

[aardwolf]

yeah for sure, 僕も「詞」って言うアップの辞典を使うよ
僕はすごいと思う。

I also have Kanji by limasky, its pretty good, i wish they gave more compound examples though

 

[Putrefaction]

There's not much else iKanji does that Kanji by Lima does, they separate by grade, give many more examples, but Kotoba also has some examples, I think. You use any other ones?
Tomorrow I'm done reviewing Genki, I think. I'll do the postcards, dictionary and then move onto Genki II. Hopefully someone will make sure my Chapter 12 is good.


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I also had some additional questions.
たくさん - many or a lot, modifies nouns, anything else?
多い - the same as above, if I'm not mistaken. Does this get used in the same way?
豊かな - yutakana,
小さい - small, when contrasting size?
少し - few, when in contradiction to having a lot?
chotto - the same as above, modifies both adjectives and nouns?
totemo and sugoku?

Another small, is ato and ato de the same? As in, can I say gakko no ato... / gakko no ato de, ... ?

Sorry, another, if I wanted to say, "Are you planning to do anything interesting in the summer", would this work:
夏休みの時に何かするつもりだ？(the basic, which I am 99% sure is right)
夏休みの時に何か面白い事をするつもりだ？(99% wrong, it doesn't look right, my first instinct was to put 面白い before 何か, but that didn't look right either, hmm....)

 

[Toritoribe]

窶愿ｱ窶愿ｺﾂ税停?堋｢窶堋ｪ窶堋?窶堙ｩ窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
窶堋ｳ窶堋｢窶堙凪?堙ｰ窶堙遺?堋ｭ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。(I wonder why it isn't ﾅｽﾂｸ/窶堋､窶堋ｵ窶堙?窶堋､?)

窶愿ｱ窶愿ｺﾂ税停?堋｢窶堙?/COLOR]窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
ﾅｽﾂｸ窶堋､ is often used for more "big" thing, like ﾅ?ﾃｳ窶転窶堙ｰﾅｽﾂｸ窶堋､, ﾂ信窶廃窶堙ｰﾅｽﾂｸ窶堋､, 窶牢ﾂ催?ﾅｽY窶堙ｰﾅｽﾂｸ窶堋､...

ﾅｽﾅｽﾅ陳ｱ窶堋ｪﾅｽn窶堙溪?堙ｩ窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

ﾅｽﾅｽﾅ陳ｱ窶堋ｪﾅｽn窶堙彈/COLOR]窶堙ｩ窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｵ窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶脳窶堙ｨﾂ寝窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
ﾆ坦ﾆ停?愴痴ﾆ停?ｦﾂーﾆ耽窶堙ｰﾅｽg窶堋｢窶堋ｷ窶堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶堙ｦ窶堋ｭ窶堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
窶怒窶堙ｰ窶愿??堙昶?ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶慊ｪ窶堋ｪ窶堙ｦ窶堋ｭ窶堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
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窶ｰﾃ娯?堙ｰ窶ｰﾃ娯?堋｢窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、ﾂ青ｺ窶堋ｪ窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
窶ｹﾃ吮?卍｣窶堋ｵ窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶堋ｽ窶堋ｭ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶添窶堙ｪ窶堙ｩ窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｵ窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶脳窶堙ｨﾂ寝窶堙Ъ/COLOR]窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
ﾂ×ﾆ坦ﾆ停?愴痴ﾆ停?ｦﾂーﾆ耽窶堙ｰﾅｽg窶堋｢窶堋ｷ窶堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶堙ｦ窶堋ｭ窶堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
ﾂ×窶怒窶堙ｰ窶愿??堙昶?ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶慊ｪ窶堋ｪ窶堙ｦ窶堋ｭ窶堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
窶ｰﾃ娯?堙ｰ窶ｰﾃ娯?堋｢窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、ﾂ青ｺ窶堋ｪﾂ出窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
窶ｹﾃ吮?卍｣窶堋ｵ窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶堋ｽ窶堋ｭ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶添窶堙ｪ窶堋ｽ窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

The main clause after ﾂ〜窶堋ｵ窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧ must be negative thing.
e.g.
窶怒窶堙ｰ窶愿??堙昶?ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶禿壺?堋ｪ窶敕ｦ窶堙ｪ窶堙?（窶堋｢ﾂ）窶堙ｩ窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶堙債、ﾅ?ﾂｦ窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。
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ﾂ催ｰ窶愿ｺﾂ、ﾆ弾ﾆ椎槌池窶堙ｰﾅ陳ｩ窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。

ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶堙債、ﾅ?ﾂｦ窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堙ｩ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、ﾅ?wﾂ校窶堙可行窶堋ｫ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｭ窶堋?窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｹ窶堙ｱﾂ。
(ﾅ?ﾂｦ窶堋ｷ窶堋ｬ窶堙懌?堋ｷ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧ is acceptable, but ﾅ?ﾂｦ窶堋ｷ窶堋ｬ窶堙ｩ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧ sounds more natural.)
ﾂ催ｰ窶愿ｺﾂ、ﾆ弾ﾆ椎槌池窶堙ｰﾅ陳ｩ窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。

窶｢ﾃｪ窶堙嫁ｽﾃｨﾅｽ窶?窶堙ｰﾂ鞘?倪?堋｢窶堋ｽ窶堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶堋｢窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
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窶ｹz窶堙ｭ窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶堋｢窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

窶堋ｨ窶｢ﾃｪ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙嫁ｽﾃｨﾅｽ窶?窶堙ｰﾂ鞘?倪?堋｢窶堋ｽ窶堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶堋｢窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
窶｢ﾃｪ generally refers to the speaker's own mother.
窶ｰﾅ停?伉絶?堙ｰ窶ｹz窶堙ｭ窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶堋｢窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堙娯?堙?、窶愿ｺ窶怒窶堙俄?藩??堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。(I remember there was a rule for the -te form of this, am I right?)
ﾂ親ﾂ静倪?堙遺?堙娯?堙?、ﾂ好窶堋ｫ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

You can also say
窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堋｢窶堙娯?堙?、窶愿ｺ窶怒窶堙俄?藩 ?COLOR="Red"]窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。
ﾂ親ﾂ静倪?堙遺?堙娯?堙?、窶敕楪鞘?披?堋ｪﾂ好窶堋ｫ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

Then there was a "probably", to which I made my own examples.
ﾆ湛ﾆ弾ﾆ達窶堙披?堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙債、窶堙??堋ｱ窶堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ？
ﾂ?ｨ窶｢窶昶?ｰﾂｮ窶堙ｰ窶?ﾂ焦凪?堋ｵ窶堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ窶堙??堋ｵ窶堙･窶堋､ﾂ。
ﾂ?ｨﾅ?O窶堙??ｹz窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ窶堙??堋ｵ窶堙･窶堋､ﾂ。

ﾆ湛ﾆ弾ﾆ達ﾂーﾆ置窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙債、ﾂ（ﾂ債｡ﾂ）窶ｰﾂｽ窶堙ｰ窶堋ｵ窶堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ？
ﾂ?ｨ窶｢窶昶?ｰﾂｮ窶堙ｰ窶?ﾂ焦凪?堋ｵ窶堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ窶堙??堋ｵ窶堙･窶堋､ﾂ。
ﾂ?ｨﾅ?O窶堙?COLOR="Red"]窶ｰﾅ停?伉絶?堙ｰ窶ｹz窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ窶堙??堋ｵ窶堙･窶堋､ﾂ。

 

[undrentide]

I also had some additional questions.
窶堋ｽ窶堋ｭ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ - many or a lot, modifies nouns, anything else?
窶伉ｽ窶堋｢ - the same as above, if I'm not mistaken. Does this get used in the same way?
窶鏑窶堋ｩ窶堙 - yutakana,
ﾂ渉ｬ窶堋ｳ窶堋｢ - small, when contrasting size?
ﾂ渉ｭ窶堋ｵ - few, when in contradiction to having a lot?
chotto - the same as above, modifies both adjectives and nouns?
totemo and sugoku?

窶堋ｽ窶堋ｭ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ and 窶伉ｽ窶堋｢ both refers to the volume/quantity, 窶堋ｽ窶堋ｭ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ is a little more colloquial than 窶伉ｽ窶堋｢.

窶鏑窶堋ｩ窶堙 means rich, plentiful, it has positive connotation.

ﾂ渉ｬ窶堋ｳ窶堋｢ is about size, opposite to 窶佚･窶堋ｫ窶堋｢. (Like little dog, big dog)

ﾂ渉ｭ窶堋ｵ is referring to the volume.

窶堋ｿ窶堙･窶堙≫?堙 is colloquial, meaning is the same as ﾂ渉ｭ窶堋ｵ.

窶堙??堙??堙? and 窶堋ｷ窶堋ｲ窶堋ｭ means almost the same, only 窶堋ｷ窶堋ｲ窶堋ｭ is more colloquial and informal than 窶堙??堙??堙?. (More formal way of saying 窶堙??堙??堙? is 窶敕ｱﾂ湘ｭ窶堙可）

Another small, is ato and ato de the same? As in, can I say gakko no ato... / gakko no ato de, ... ?

Sorry, another, if I wanted to say, "Are you planning to do anything interesting in the summer", would this work:
窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙昶?堙固ｽﾅｾ窶堙俄?ｰﾂｽ窶堋ｩ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堋ｾﾂ？(the basic, which I am 99% sure is right)
窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙昶?堙固ｽﾅｾ窶堙俄?ｰﾂｽ窶堋ｩ窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋｢ﾅｽ窶凪?堙ｰ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堋ｾﾂ？(99% wrong, it doesn't look right, my first instinct was to put 窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋｢ before 窶ｰﾂｽ窶堋ｩ, but that didn't look right either, hmm....)

Actually the first sentence sounds wrong, the latter is better though I think ﾅｽﾅｾ is not necessary.

窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙拏U]窶堙閏/U]窶ｰﾂｽ窶堙ｰ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堋ｾﾂ？
窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙拏U]窶堙閏/U]窶ｰﾂｽ窶堋ｩ窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋｢窶堋ｱ窶堙??堙ｰ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堋ｾﾂ？
(Using 窶堋ｾ at the end of a question sounds a bit strong... as if cross-examining.

 

[Elizabeth]

Actually the first sentence sounds wrong, the latter is better though I think ﾅｽﾅｾ is not necessary.

窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙拏U]窶堙閏/U]窶ｰﾂｽ窶堙ｰ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堋ｾﾂ？
窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙拏U]窶堙閏/U]窶ｰﾂｽ窶堋ｩ窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋｢窶堋ｱ窶堙??堙ｰ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堋ｾﾂ？
(Using 窶堋ｾ at the end of a question sounds a bit strong... as if cross-examining.

If you want a 窶堙 phrase, XXXsomething after 窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙

ﾂ（窶堋ｱ窶堙個）窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙昶?堙固?ﾃ披?堙俄?ｰﾂｽ窶堙ｰ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ。is better than ﾅｽﾅｾ I think.
ﾂ（窶堋ｱ窶堙個）窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙昶?堙固?ﾃ披?堙俄?ｰﾂｽ窶堋ｩ窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋｢窶堋ｱ窶堙??堙ｰ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ？

窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙昶?堙債、窶ｰﾂｽ窶堋ｩ窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋｢窶堋ｱ窶堙??堙ｰ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ？ﾂ

 

[undrentide]

If you want a 窶堙 phrase, XXXsomething after 窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙

ﾂ（窶堋ｱ窶堙個）窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙昶?堙固?ﾃ披?堙俄?ｰﾂｽ窶堙ｰ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ。is better than ﾅｽﾅｾ I think.
ﾂ（窶堋ｱ窶堙個）窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙昶?堙固?ﾃ披?堙俄?ｰﾂｽ窶堋ｩ窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋｢窶堋ｱ窶堙??堙ｰ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ？

窶ｰﾃ??ｹx窶堙昶?堙債、窶ｰﾂｽ窶堋ｩ窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋｢窶堋ｱ窶堙??堙ｰ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ？ﾂ

As to the last two lines, I assume you meant 窶ｰﾂｽ窶堋ｩ窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋｢窶堋ｱ窶堙??堙ｰ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ？

 

[Elizabeth]

As to the last two lines, I assume you meant 何か面白いことをするつもりですか？

HAWT! Oooooohhh Oooooohhhh!!! Yrrrrr。。。コピペしすぎて、間違って二重に削除してしまいましたよ。

- that's just plain ugly!

 

[Putrefaction]

Wow, a flock of new posts! I'm so happy! I will have to check them after work!

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So I'm home now. Gave rep to tori, und and eliz. Thanks again guys!!

Time for quotes and comment-questions!

始まるんです。

Is there any hajimeru? Just wondering.

余り寝てないんです。

If I put the -ta form, could the form also be netanaindesu?

The main clause after ～し過ぎたから must be negative thing.

Got it. Is there a phrase for a positive one?

(寒すぎますから is acceptable, but 寒すぎるから sounds more natural.)

That's right, I remember you saying that the short form is more appropriate with the kara.
Also, no idea where the ri came from.

煙草を吸わないほうがいいです。
→外で煙草を吸っているでしょう。

Are you always supposed to specify that you're smoking tobacco? (Awkward question, but I think you know what I mean.)

豊かな means rich, plentiful, it has positive connotation.

Is it used the same way as takusan / ooi?

小さい is about size, opposite to 大きい. (Like little dog, big dog)

Oh I see, physical size.

少し is referring to the volume.

So this is the opposite of takusan / ooi, chotto / sukoshi, respectively colloquial.

とても and すごく means almost the same, only すごく is more colloquial and informal than とても. (More formal way of saying とても is 非常に）

Got it. (hijo ni?)

And er, was the gakko no ato / gakko no ato de similar? I see in this post it was used, so I was just wondering!

Actually the first sentence sounds wrong, the latter is better though I think 時 is not necessary.

夏休みに何をするつもりだ？
夏休みに何か面白いことをするつもりだ？
(Using だ at the end of a question sounds a bit strong... as if cross-examining.

Oh no! I thought it was right! I guess I can't think of a no toki sentence. :\
I guess I was right on the second part, I was very unsure about it though!

If you want a の phrase, XXXsomething after 夏休み

I'm sorry, I don't understand? Well, I understand your sentences, but hm?

Also lol @ your hawt post. So weird!

Thank you very much undrentide and toritoribe and elizabeth

 

[Toritoribe]

Is there any hajimeru? Just wondering.

始める; transitive verb
始まる; intransitive verb

先生は試験を始めた。
試験が始まった。

If I put the -ta form, could the form also be netanaindesu?

The past form of 寝て（い）ない is 寝て（い）なかった, not 寝た（い）ない.;-)

Is there a phrase for a positive one?

For instance, よく/たくさん～したので/から

たくさん勉強したので、成績が上がりました。

Are you always supposed to specify that you're smoking tobacco? (Awkward question, but I think you know what I mean.)

Right. Basically you need to say 煙草を吸う for "to smoke (tobacco)".

 

[Elizabeth]

Oh no! I thought it was right! I guess I can't think of a no toki sentence. :\I guess I was right on the second part, I was very unsure about it though!


I'm sorry, I don't understand? Well, I understand your sentences, but hm?

ﾂ「ﾅｽﾅｾﾂ」窶堙ｰﾂ、ﾂ「ﾅ?ﾃ板」窶堙??冰窶堋ｫﾅ?ﾂｷ窶堋ｦ窶堋ｽ窶｢ﾃｻ窶堋ｪﾅｽﾂｩ窶漏窶堙??堋ｵ窶堙･窶堋､ﾂ。

ﾂ「ﾅｽﾅｾﾂ」窶堙債、ﾂ「ﾅ?ﾃ板」窶堙??冰窶堋ｫﾅ?ﾂｷ窶堋ｦ窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。ﾂ？ﾂ？ﾂ？


窶恠窶堙固ｽﾅｾﾂ、窶冏窶堋ｩ窶堋｢窶｢ﾅｾ窶堙ｰ窶堙ｭ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｵ窶堙娯?堙??堋ｱ窶堙ｫ窶堙俄?倪?披?堙≫?堙??禿｡窶堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。(窶堙固ｽﾅｾ窶堙固ｽg窶堋｢窶｢ﾃｻ窶堙娯?氾｡窶｢ﾂｶﾂ）ﾂ。 ﾂ

 

[Putrefaction]

I sent you an email of a further inquiry, Elizabeth. Unless you'd like to publicly discuss it?

Also I completely missed your post, Toritoribe!

先生は試験を始めた。
試験が始まった。

So one, since I don't know what those words mean, is started by a person, the other is a thing starting?

The past form of 寝て（い）ない is 寝て（い）なかった, not 寝た（い）ない.

Oh whoops! Duh!

Right. Basically you need to say 煙草を吸う for "to smoke (tobacco)".

Got it, in the US we usually just say "smoke", which is why I put it there. I'll remember to use tobacco.

たくさん勉強したので、成績が上がりました。

I assume you can state this as benkyou shi sugita no de, so the ending 上がりました is used to imply a positive outcome?

 

[Elizabeth]

Got it, in the US we usually just say "smoke", which is why I put it there. I'll remember to use tobacco.

You can use "smoke" alone if "tobacco" is understand, or in a response to the topic being established.
I assume it has to do with 吸う taking other verbs besides smoke (inhale, slurp, absorb, suck up etc)...


タバコをすいますか？前は、吸っていましたが、やめました。(Do you smoke (tobacco) ?
I used to smoke, but I've dropped it.

I assume you can state this as benkyou shi sugita no de, so the ending 上がりました is used to imply a positive outcome?

To do something to an excessive degree and expect an affirmative result ?/ ☝

 

[Putrefaction]

Right, when one studies a lot, one gets smart, which is an affirmative result, right?

勉強し過ぎたから、頭がよくなりましたんです ? ? 上がりました
I can't think of how to make this sentence.

So assuming I'm wrong, how would you combine it with たくさん勉強したので?
I studied a lot so I grew smart.

By the way, I appreciate the rapid fast posts!

 

[Elizabeth]

Right, when one studies a lot, one gets smart, which is an affirmative result, right?

窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｵ窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶慊ｪ窶堋ｪ窶堙ｦ窶堋ｭ窶堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堙ｱ窶堙??堋ｷ ? ? ﾂ湘｣窶堋ｪ窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ
I can't think of how to make this sentence.

So assuming I'm wrong, how would you combine it with 窶堋ｽ窶堋ｭ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堙娯?堙?

By the way, I appreciate the rapid fast posts!

窶ｰﾃ溪?堋ｬ窶堙ｩ is usually translated inherantly negative, though, as in "too much" of a particular state.

 

[Putrefaction]

Oh, hm. Can you tell me if this sentence makes sense.

I studied a lot so I grew smart.
たくさん勉強したので, 頭がよくなりました.

I understand that this is probably a literal translation but I'm trying to work in 上がりました (other than Tori's たくさん勉強したので、成績が上がりました example).

 

[Elizabeth]

Oh, hm. Can you tell me if this sentence makes sense.

I studied a lot so I grew smart.
たくさん勉強したので, 頭がよくなりました.

I understand that this is probably a literal translation but I'm trying to work in 上がりました (other than Tori's たくさん勉強したので、成績が上がりました example).

It looks fine, to my non-native eye.

 

[Elizabeth]

I sent you an email of a further inquiry, Elizabeth. Unless you'd like to publicly discuss it?

Try an online translation for getting a rough cut of the sentences. It won't compromise anything as sort of a first pass reviewing tool. And I am seriously NOT confident about 時 with the seasons....



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[Putrefaction]

It might be more natural to replace "Time" with "Among".​

"Time" is replaced by "Among". ???​

Among doesn't make sense to me, but I get what it means. Thanks!

 

[Ashikaga]

It might be more natural to replace "Time" with "Among".​

"Time" is replaced by "Among". ???​

Among doesn't make sense to me, but I get what it means. Thanks!

ﾅ?ﾃ in this case is not "among" but "during".