How do you know... ON/KUN and beyond

[Putrefaction]

The quoted one
Have you ever eaten sushi?
No, I haven't (eaten it) yet.
(This might be a bit advanced, the expression for "experience.")
https://jref.com/forum/showpost.p...&postcount=377

This is the biggest D'OH! moment ever, should show how stupid I am, LMFAO. I'll edit as soon as I get my phone in, for now, romaji:

sushi o tabeta koto ga arimasu?
iie, tabeta koto ga arimasen.
(iie, tabeta koto ga nai to omoimasu, will that work?)

おにぎりを食べている中村さんに話しかけている田中さんは、笑っています。

rice ball eating nakamura talking with tanaka san laughing
Tanaka is laughing while talking with Nakamura, who is eating a rice ball. ?

But this expression is just for practice. 田中さんは、おにぎりを食べている中村さんに笑いながら話しかけています or like that is more natural as a description.

I was with you until gara. I understand ni is the particle for the hanasu.

 

[Ashikaga]

I was with you until gara. I understand ni is the particle for the hanasu.

Verb + ながら = While ____ing

携帯電話で話しながら車を運転するのは危険です。
Driving (a car) while talking on your cell phone is dangerous.

Putre! 食べ物を噛みながら話すのは下品ですよ！
Putre! You shouldn't talk while chewing your food (Talking while chewing your food is vulgar).

ごめんなさい、お母さん。
I'm sorry, mother.

 

[Putrefaction]

Oh I see, thank you. Somehow I got it in the first one I put (is that right, by the way?)

田中さんは、おにぎりを食べている中村さんに笑いながら話しかけています

Takana rice ball eating Nakamura san with (while laughing) talking with is. -> Tanaka is laughing while talking to Nakamura, who is eating a rice ball, pretty much the same thing I have written above.

I also wanted to ask you about my name status thing, does it make sense? I found it on wwwjdic and loved it, but somehow i dont think its what i want it to mean.

 

[Ashikaga]

Oh I see, thank you. Somehow I got it in the first one I put (is that right, by the way?)

Takana rice ball eating Nakamura san with (while laughing) talking with is. -> Tanaka is laughing while talking to Nakamura, who is eating a rice ball, pretty much the same thing I have written above.

You got it.

I also wanted to ask you about my name status thing, does it make sense? I found it on wwwjdic and loved it, but somehow i dont think its what i want it to mean.

窶｢sﾂ幸窶吮??窶堙個幸窶堋｢....窶堋ｪ窶堙遺?堋｢? If you meant to say "I looked for a silver lining/consolation in this... but it wasn't there.", I suppose it makes sense.

 

[Putrefaction]

Nice, that's what I wanted. I mean, I translated literally, and I got: "not happiness middle's happiness....wasn't." and read next to the thing of what it meant, and was stupefied.

Thank you for answering! It's complicated for me still, I'll have to review. I started chapter 12 and it's by far the hardest thing concept wise I've dealt with so far...I was wondering if you have time, if you can go to the Japan Practical section sometime and see if you can recommend.

 

[Toritoribe]

sushi o tabeta koto ga arimasu?
iie, tabeta koto ga arimasen.

You can also say
ﾅｽﾃｵﾅｽi窶堙ｰﾂ食窶堙冷?堋ｽ窶堋ｱ窶堙??堋ｪ窶堋?窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ？
窶堋｢窶堋｢窶堋ｦﾂ、窶堙懌?堋ｾﾂ食窶堙冷?堋ｽ窶堋ｱ窶堙??堋ｪ窶堋?窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｹ窶堙ｱﾂ。

iie, tabeta koto ga nai to omoimasu, will that work?

Yeah, 窶堋｢窶堋｢窶堋ｦﾂ、ﾂ食窶堙冷?堋ｽ窶堋ｱ窶堙??堋ｪ窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙?ｽv窶堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷ works as "No, I think I haven't (eaten it) yet" perfectly.

I understand ni is the particle for the hanasu.

someone窶堙架彙窶堋ｵ窶堋ｩ窶堋ｯ窶堙ｩ/ﾋ彙窶堋ｷ has a nuance of "to talk/speak to someone unilaterally," whereas someone窶堙?彙窶堋ｷ has a nuance of "to talk with each other."

 

[Putrefaction]

I see.

この町に図書館がある？(Is there a library in this town?)
はい、まっすぐ行く。三つ目の信号に道の右側があると思います。 (Yeah. Go straight, at the third traffic light on the right side of the street it's there, I think.)

I realize the second part of the second sentence may not be right. I think the に belongs with the 右側.

I was also wondering if this is right as well.
難しくなくなりました。 (It is becoming not difficult -> It is becoming easier, I would have put that instead.)
"かかる"が難しいです。("kakari" is difficult.)
"こと"は言？ ("koto" is __?)

体育は、ANATOMY。(I believe you corrected me earlier, so I'll have to check.)

先週、天気はよかった。夏晴れがあった。天気はよかっただったから、店はとても忙しかった。でも、今日雨が降ります。たぶん、明日も。
(Last week, the weather was good. We had clear summer skies. Because the weather was good, my store was very busy. But today, there was rain. Probably tomorrow too.)

The part I am unsure about is the katta datta.

ニューヨークはいろいろなの季節があります。
(NY has various kinds of weather.)

今日、第12課を始める。

 

[Toritoribe]

窶堙坂?堋｢ﾂ、窶堙懌?堙≫?堋ｷ窶堋ｮﾂ行窶堋ｭﾂ。ﾅｽO窶堙や?禿壺?堙個信ﾂ坂??窶堙俄?慊ｹ窶堙娯?ｰE窶伉､窶堋ｪ窶堋?窶堙ｩ窶堙?ｽv窶堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。

窶堙坂?堋｢ﾂ、窶堙懌?堙≫?堋ｷ窶堋ｮﾂ行窶堙≫?堙?、ﾅｽO窶堙や?禿壺?堙個信ﾂ坂??窶堙個（窶堙??堋ｱ窶堙ｫ窶堙個）窶慊ｹ窶堙娯?ｰE窶伉､窶堙閏/COLOR]窶堋?窶堙ｩ窶堙?ｽv窶堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。

窶愿ｯ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｭ窶堙遺?堋ｭ窶堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。 (It is becoming not difficult -> It is becoming easier, I would have put that instead.)

more accuratly to say,
窶愿ｯ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｭ窶堙遺?堋ｭ窶堙?COLOR="Red"]窶堙≫?堙??堋ｫ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。 (It is becoming not difficult -> It is becoming easier.)
窶愿ｯ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｭ窶堙遺?堋ｭ窶堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。(It has become not difficult -> It has become easier.)

ﾂ静ｦﾂ週ﾂ、窶弖窶ｹC窶堙坂?堙ｦ窶堋ｩ窶堙≫?堋ｽﾂ。窶ｰﾃ?青ｰ窶堙ｪ窶堋ｪ窶堋?窶堙≫?堋ｽﾂ。窶弖窶ｹC窶堙坂?堙ｦ窶堋ｩ窶堙≫?堋ｽ窶堋ｾ窶堙≫?堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶弭窶堙坂?堙??堙??堙?窶纏窶堋ｵ窶堋ｩ窶堙≫?堋ｽﾂ。窶堙??堙?ﾂ、ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶ｰJ窶堋ｪﾂ降窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。窶堋ｽ窶堙披?堙ｱﾂ、窶督ｾ窶愿ｺ窶堙?ﾂ。

ﾂ静ｦﾂ週ﾂ、窶弖窶ｹC窶堙坂?堙ｦ窶堋ｩ窶堙≫?堋ｽﾂ。窶ｰﾃ?青ｰ窶堙ｪ窶堋ｾ窶堙≫?堋ｽﾂ。窶弖窶ｹC窶堋ｪ窶堙ｦ窶堋ｩ窶堙≫?堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶弭窶堙坂?堙??堙??堙?窶纏窶堋ｵ窶堋ｩ窶堙≫?堋ｽﾂ。窶堙??堙?ﾂ、ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺﾂ（窶堙債）窶ｰJ窶堋ｪﾂ降窶堙≫?堋ｽﾂ。窶堋ｽ窶堙披?堙ｱﾂ、窶督ｾ窶愿ｺ窶堙?ﾂ。

窶ｰﾃ?青ｰ窶堙ｪ窶堋ｪ窶堋?窶堙≫?堋ｽﾂ。
We had some clear summer sky days (not always).

窶弖窶ｹC窶堙坂?堙ｦ窶堋ｩ窶堙≫?堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧ
窶堙ｦ窶堋ｩ窶堙≫?堋ｽ; adjective
窶堋｢窶堋｢窶弖窶ｹC窶堋ｾ窶堙≫?堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧ
窶弖窶ｹC; noun

ﾆ男ﾆ停?ｦﾂーﾆ塚?ーﾆ誰窶堙坂?堋｢窶堙ｫ窶堋｢窶堙ｫ窶堙遺?堙娯?ｹGﾂ静溪?堋ｪ窶堋?窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。

ﾆ男ﾆ停?ｦﾂーﾆ塚?ーﾆ誰ﾂ（窶堙可）窶堙梗COLOR="Red"]窶堋｢窶堙ｫ窶堋｢窶堙ｫ窶堙?/COLOR]窶ｹGﾂ静溪?堋ｪ窶堋?窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。

 

[Putrefaction]

Yeah, I figured I was way off for that datta. Didn't make sense when I was typing it, but I thought it may have been right.

ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺﾂ（窶堙債）窶ｰJ窶堋ｪﾂ降窶堙≫?堋ｽﾂ。

Why is this in the past tense if it's about today? I was going to put a -te imasu in there.

Now I've finished Chapter 12, would you like to check my review? I am going to have to review all the vocabulary and grammar from 1-12, that's going to take forever!

 

[Ashikaga]

Why is this in the past tense if it's about today? I was going to put a -te imasu in there.

ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶堙坂?ｰJ窶堋ｪﾂ降窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ/ﾂ降窶堙≫?堋ｽﾂ。ﾂ It rained today.
ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶堙坂?ｰJ窶堋ｪﾂ降窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ/ﾂ降窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堋ｽﾂ。 It was raining today.ﾂ
ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶堙坂?ｰJ窶堋ｪﾂ降窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷ/ﾂ振窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙ｩﾂ。 It is raining today.

窶堋ｻ窶堋ｿ窶堙ｧ窶堙娯?弖窶ｹC窶堙坂?堙??堋､窶堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ。ﾂ How is the weather over there?
ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶堙娯?卍ｩﾂ、窶ｰJ窶堋ｪﾂ降窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｪ/ﾂ降窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｪﾂ、ﾂ債｡窶堙債青ｰ窶堙ｪ窶堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。 It rained/was raining this morning but it is clear now.



ﾂ

 

[Putrefaction]

Ah, I see!

ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶堙坂?ｰJ窶堋ｪﾂ降窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷ/ﾂ振窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙ｩﾂ。 It is raining today.

is the one I was aiming for, when I typed that it was heavily raining. So does ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶ｰJ窶堋ｪﾂ降窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｷ mean nothing? I'm 99% sure the conjugation is right, but I am thinking that for some reason it is a weird tense or something of that nature, something that no one would say?

 

[Ashikaga]

Ah, I see! is the one I was aiming for, when I typed that it was heavily raining. So does ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶ｰJ窶堋ｪﾂ降窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｷ mean nothing? I'm 99% sure the conjugation is right, but I am thinking that for some reason it is a weird tense or something of that nature, something that no one would say?

It just means "It (will)rain today". Not "probably" or "most likely". You are saying that It WILL rain today. If that is what you want to say, the sentence is perfect.

ﾅｽﾅｸ窶堙 JREF 窶堙娯?凖ｱ窶ｹﾅｸﾂ（窶堙??堋｢窶堋ｫ窶堙･窶堋､ﾂ）窶堙??堋ｨ窶倪?披?堙ｨ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶堙娯?堋ｨ窶弖窶ｹC窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。ﾂ 窶堋ｨ窶弖窶ｹCﾆ短ﾆ停?愴耽ﾂー5 窶堙訓utre窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱﾂ！
Coming up next is today's weather brought to you by JREF. Here's Putre in the Weather Center 5!

窶堋ｨ窶堙坂?堙ｦ窶堋､窶堋ｲ窶堋ｴ窶堋｢窶堙慊〜窶堋ｷﾂ！ﾂ 窶堙昶?堙遺?堋ｳ窶堙ｱﾂ、窶堋ｨﾂ出窶堋ｩ窶堋ｯ窶堙個催崢（窶堋ｳ窶堋｢ﾂ）窶堙最ｽPﾂ（窶堋ｩ窶堋ｳﾂ）窶堙ｰ窶添窶堙ｪ窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙??堋ｭ窶堋ｾ窶堋ｳ窶堋｢窶堙仰。ﾂ ﾂ債｡窶愿ｺ窶堙坂?ｰJ窶堋ｪﾂ降窶堙ｨ窶堙慊〜窶堋ｷﾂ！
Good morning! Don't forget to take your umbrellas along when you go out. It's going to rain today! ﾂ

 

[Putrefaction]

Haha, that's not what I meant but thank you for putting a positive spin on it! I indeed meant to put the fact that it is raining, so I should have put the -te iru form.

次は JREF の提供（ていきょう）でお送りする今日のお天気です。 お天気センター5 のPutreさん！
おはようございま～す！ みなさん、お出かけの際（さい）は傘（かさ）を忘れないでくださいね。 今日は雨が降りま～す！

The amazing thing is, I actually understood most of that! I had two questions:

お送りする = ookurisuru? or is it okurisuru?
お出かけの際 = odekake no sai? I thought this was kiwa, edge. or is this a situation where sai would be used?


In related news, I've done Chapter 12 for now and what will most likely consist of many errors, the results:

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おなかがいたいんです。
彼女と別れたんです。
風邪をひいたんです。
二日酔いがあるんです。
さいふをなくしたんです。(I wonder why it isn't 失/うしな-う?)
成績がよくなかったんです。

お金持ちじゃないんです。
病気だったんです。
運動したんです。
試験が始めるんです。

飲み過ぎたから、二日酔いなんです。
勉強し過ぎたから、余り寝ないんです。
コンピュータを使いすぎたから、よくなりましたんです。
本を読み過ぎたから、頭がよくなりましたんです。
テニスをし過ぎたから、手が痛いんです。
甘い物を食べ過ぎたから、歯が痛いんです。
歌を歌い過ぎたから、声がないんです。
緊張し過ぎたから、たくさん忘れるんです。

このお菓子は甘過ぎます。
あのクラスは難し過ぎます。
今日は、寒過ぎます。
先週、働き過ぎました。
昨日、テレビを見過ぎりました。
緊張し過ぎるから、
歌を歌い過ぎたから、
週末、あそびすぎたから、

病院に行ったほうがいいです。
漢字を覚えたほうがいいです。
母に手紙を書いたほうがいいです。
心配しないほうがいいです。
吸わないほうがいいです。
うそをつかないほうがいいです。

勉強したほうがいいです。
食べたほうがいいです。
口を閉めたほうがいいです。

忙しいので、パーティに行かないつもりです。
日本語を勉強したので、日本に来ています。(I remember there was a rule for the -te form of this, am I right?)
親切なので、好きです。
外国に興味があるので、よく映画を見に行く。
勉強しなかったので、成績がよくなかった。(Very unsure about this one...)
都合が悪いので、明日パーティに行かないつもりです。

I put tsumori to indicate something I will not be doing, this should work in the sentences above.

安いので、買います。
あの映画は面白くないので、見たくない。
今週は忙しかったので、疲れています。
病気だったので、授業を休んだ。
彼女はいつも親切なので、人気がある。
政治に興味がないので、新聞を読まない。
明日テストがあるので、勉強する。
のどが渇いたので、ジュースを飲むつもりです。
歩きすぎたので、足が痛いです。

本を読まなくちゃいけません。
日本語を勉強しなくちゃいけません。
美容院に行かなくちゃいけません。
家を掃除しなくちゃいけません。
お風呂に入って、花を持ってこなくちゃいけません。
子供の時、薬を飲まなくちゃいけません。
(This was very hard for me to speak out loud.)

Then there was a "probably", to which I made my own examples.
スティぶさんは、どこですか？
→部屋を掃除しているでしょう。
→外で吸っているでしょう。

I couldn't think of a darou sentence, so that's what I have.

Hopefully the majority of this is correct! For now, I'm going to do a review of Chapters 1-12 grammar and vocab, hopefully enough time to start 830 - ~860. And then somehow fit in pharmaceutical/medicine...

 

[Ashikaga]

窶堋ｨ窶倪?披?堙ｨ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ = ookurisuru? or is it okurisuru?
窶堋ｨﾂ出窶堋ｩ窶堋ｯ窶堙個催 = odekake no sai? I thought this was kiwa, edge. or is this a situation where sai would be used?

It's "ookurisuru"ﾂ． ﾂ

ﾂ催 (promounced SAI in this case) can also mean something like..."an occasion". Usually used in polite/formal speech. I suppose you can replace that with ﾅｽﾅｾ and get pretty much the same meaning.


ﾂ

 

[Putrefaction]

Hm, I see. I was thinking that since 際 was by itself, not next to any Kanji that it would be using it's kun reading. Well, at least I got another part down! Thanks.

I forgot to mention, a few of the third picture's sentences were very awkward for me to do, when I was typing and checking them.

 

[aardwolf]

ﾅ津ｻ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃや?堙溪?堋ｽ窶堙娯?堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶堋｢窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。ﾂ
lol
窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙娯?堙?、窶愿ｺ窶怒窶堙俄?藩 ??堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷ
I think the 窶藩??堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷ is okay because it is "came" not "went", but 窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙娯?堙?because i will study), should be 窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙≫?堋ｽ窶堙娯?堙 (because i wanted to study), or just 窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堋｢ﾂ noﾂ「窶堋ｩ窶堙≫?堋ｽﾂ」ﾂ but im not quite sure.
窶徭ﾂ坂?｡窶堋ｪﾋ?ｫ窶堋｢窶堙娯?堙?、窶督ｾ窶愿ｺﾆ恥ﾂーﾆ弾ﾆ達窶堙可行窶堋ｩ窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
I think 窶堋｢窶堋ｩ窶堙遺?堋｢ alone is just fine.
窶堙??堋ｵ窶堙･窶堋､窶堙娯?｢ﾂｶ窶堙坂?堋｢窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｵ窶堙･窶堋､ﾂ。ﾂ（ﾂ湘篠）

 

[Elizabeth]

口を閉めたのほうがいいです。
lol

If you're trying to say "Should close your mouth" that is correctly 口を閉じた(とじた）ほうがいいです。.... right ?

Verb + ほう、とじる (Close eyes, book etc). 閉める (Close door, shop...)

 

[Putrefaction]

should be 窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙≫?堋ｽ窶堙娯?堙 (because i wanted to study)

You are absolutely correct, I did not put it in the past tense.

窶徭ﾂ坂?｡窶堋ｪﾋ?ｫ窶堋｢窶堙娯?堙?、窶督ｾ窶愿ｺﾆ恥ﾂーﾆ弾ﾆ達窶堙可行窶堋ｩ窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
I think 窶堋｢窶堋ｩ窶堙遺?堋｢ alone is just fine.
窶堙??堋ｵ窶堙･窶堋､窶堙娯?｢ﾂｶ窶堙坂?堋｢窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｵ窶堙･窶堋､ﾂ。ﾂ（ﾂ湘篠）

Hmm, it would make sense your way since I already modified the time with ashita, I put tsumori in there as more a combination.

If you're trying to say "Should close your mouth" that is correctly ﾅ津ｻ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃや?堋ｶ窶堋ｽ(窶堙??堋ｶ窶堋ｽﾂ）窶堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶堋｢窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。.... right ?

Verb + 窶堙吮?堋､ﾂ、窶堙??堋ｶ窶堙ｩ (Close eyes, book etc).ﾂ 窶｢ﾃや?堙溪?堙ｩﾂ (Close door, shop...)

I haven't come across this yet, I didn't know what else to say for cough. I was going to put, kusuri o nonda no hou ga ii desu, but I wanted to do something else.

 

[Elizabeth]

You are absolutely correct, I did not put it in the past tense.
Hmm, it would make sense your way since I already modified the time with ashita, I put tsumori in there as more a combination.
I haven't come across this yet, I didn't know what else to say for cough. I was going to put, kusuri o nonda no hou ga ii desu, but I wanted to do something else.

What is the intended translation ? Close your mouth when coughing ? hehe.

And no "no" after a verb.

 

[Putrefaction]

Oh. Crap. Then I did those other ones wrong too, I guess, I should edit them.

The intended translation was, "Better close your mouth then." I guess it comes off as rude now that I think about it...oops, haha. Would you mind checking the rest of what I've done, I'm reading the end of Genki's dictionary and possibly re-doing 12 before I move on to Genki II.

 

[aardwolf]

If you're trying to say "Should close your mouth" that is correctly ﾅ津ｻ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃや?堋ｶ窶堋ｽ(窶堙??堋ｶ窶堋ｽﾂ）窶堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶堋｢窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。.... right ?

Verb + 窶堙吮?堋､ﾂ、窶堙??堋ｶ窶堙ｩ (Close eyes, book etc).ﾂ 窶｢ﾃや?堙溪?堙ｩﾂ (Close door, shop...)

ahaha that was putrefaction's sentence
i was just commenting on it, lol
ﾅ津ｻ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃや?堋ｶ窶堙??堙ｦ窶堋ｧﾂ！ﾂ ﾆ稚ﾆ稚ﾆ稚 Im not sure if ﾅ津ｻ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃや?堋ｶ窶堋ｽ窶堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶堋｢窶堋｢ is rude or not ☝

*totally forgot about no 窶堙 after 窶慊ｮﾅｽﾅ?

 

[Putrefaction]

I think, even from the english point of view, it's polite not to say "better to close your mouth"! I also thought shimeru was to close, unless it refers to non-human/inanimate objects?

Also, is ﾂ幸saiwa(i) or shiawase(na)? I have a bunch of these in my Kanji book, where both -i and -na forms of adjectives are shown/used. It's very confusing.

Also aardwolf, how are your studies going.

 

[Elizabeth]

I think, even from the english point of view, it's polite not to say "better to close your mouth"! I also thought shimeru was to close, unless it refers to non-human/inanimate objects?

It isn't a politeness concern so much, I just don't have a sense of the context.


子供に頼む時「。。。。ほうがいい」という言い方は丁寧すぎておかしいかも


Shimeru is doors, windows, gates, stores, etc.

 

[Putrefaction]

Hm, and you said that tojimeru is for eyes and books, so for the same Kanji/meaning there are different things applied to it? Interesting. I'm almost done doing the vocab and stuff from the review section of the book, there's at least 500 words in here! Damn! There's so much I have to remember, I don't know how you guys remember all of it!

 

[Elizabeth]

Hm, and you said that tojimeru is for eyes and books, so for the same Kanji/meaning there are different things applied to it? Interesting. I'm almost done doing the vocab and stuff from the review section of the book, there's at least 500 words in here! Damn! There's so much I have to remember, I don't know how you guys remember all of it!

It is confusing. You can also "tojiru" a door. But the ones to remember first are : eyes, mouth, book....what else ?? bank account (when the time comes for that).