Do Women Have A Tendency To Idolize Men?

[AquaLung]

Is this universally instinctive?

Unless we're talking about extreme feminism, it seems there's a tendency for women in general to place men, or certain men, on a pedestal. For instance, when Hillary Clinton ran for president, I didn't get the sense that women were excited about a woman running for president, as say, the excitement for Obama running for president, and particularly winning. Yes, there are the female movie and pop-music female stars, but this doesn't seem to merge into areas of leadership (like politics, etc.).
I can go further, but I'll stop for now for possible feedback, opinions.

 

[Grimga]

I think woman always feel like they have to always rule. They call men the animals when all we want to do is talk things out. They want the ******* guys and come crying to the nice guys. Man I have alot to say but I agree on your view.

 

[Mark of Zorro]

Generalizations are always a bit dangerous. They are only useful so long as people don't get carried away.

I don't know about women placing men on a "pedestal". I am sure that concept has different meanings for different people, even if we keep the focus on the realm of politics.

But I do think women in general do expect men to be the leaders in certain aspects of life. Even female animals do that.

And yeah, I guess there is what might call the "groupie effect". I think men can and do idolize certain popular women and put them on a pedestal too, but for men I think there is a point that they will stop gushing over them if everyone else is too.

But that may be the male focus on bodies rather than other more ethereal aspects such as wit, charm, and even popularity itself. Only a few men can be at the tippy top of something, like politics or a certain sport.

And while it may not seem so classy or desireable, men being focused on bodies and faces may make more room for individual preferences for separate women, even stretching out into politics.

 

[BrianLewis]

I don't get this one at all. Politics is one thing. However, if you just watch some TV commercials, 9 out of 10 men are portrayed as total idiots. I can't really call that a pedestal, unless its one for mocking.

 

[Mark of Zorro]

As for men putting women on a pedestal in the political arena, I was going to mention Sarah Palin.

I am not saying the following is true, but an anthropoligist might put it like this: There is not much to gain sexual selection wise for a female being a politician. In fact, its more like a detriment. But for a man, its a windfall. So no surprise men get into politics more.

And I might be reiterating a bit, but so many women will bend over backwards to bag the top dog. Its something I hold against some, but not all women. Even more so if its obvious he got to be top dog by being a scumbag, and some women really don't seem to care. Some I say. Some women would never be caught dead with such a creature of the male sex.

 

[AquaLung]

I think woman always feel like they have to always rule. They call men the animals when all we want to do is talk things out. They want the ******* guys and come crying to the nice guys. Man I have alot to say but I agree on your view.

I'm not sure what you mean by:

They want the ******* guys and come crying to the nice guys

I think I may know what you're saying, but the censored word makes me a bit unsure.

 

[AquaLung]

Generalizations are always a bit dangerous. They are only useful so long as people don't get carried away.

I don't know about women placing men on a "pedestal". I am sure that concept has different meanings for different people, even if we keep the focus on the realm of politics.

But I do think women in general do expect men to be the leaders in certain aspects of life. Even female animals do that.

And yeah, I guess there is what might call the "groupie effect". I think men can and do idolize certain popular women and put them on a pedestal too, but for men I think there is a point that they will stop gushing over them if everyone else is too.

But that may be the male focus on bodies rather than other more ethereal aspects such as wit, charm, and even popularity itself. Only a few men can be at the tippy top of something, like politics or a certain sport.

And while it may not seem so classy or desireable, men being focused on bodies and faces may make more room for individual preferences for separate women, even stretching out into politics.

Yes, there is a certain amount of idolization of females, by males, like Hollywood actresses. It seemed at one time that it resembled the way females idolize males a bit more than now. It seemed like men may have actually idolized Lana Turner, Marilyn Monroe, etc. Of course I don't know how these men really spoke about them outside of censored dialogue. But I don't sense that males really would lay their coat on the ground for any of today's female sex symbols.

I think there is a degree of instinct among females that will cause them to become groupies more than males, but I think part of it is societal programming (for centuries). When the beauty of the male body is portrayed, the male figure used seems more likely to have a degree of individuality (a name attached, etc.), than females. It seems the beauty of the female body will tend to be more collective than individualized. Photos used for post cards with females with no names, but all having a similar shape conducive to given photo scenario (tan females on a beach, etc.).

 

[AquaLung]

I don't get this one at all. Politics is one thing. However, if you just watch some TV commercials, 9 out of 10 men are portrayed as total idiots. I can't really call that a pedestal, unless its one for mocking.

Yes but no matter how grandiose the female is, she seems to often place at least one male high on a pedestal. It's probably very few women that will place all men on a pedestal. Their standards are going to vary. But even the Queen of Sheba in the Bible, who probably had men cater to her every whim, maybe not even looking at most of them, traveled a long way to see this magnificent King she heard about named Solomon. And showered him with praises after meeting him.

 

[AquaLung]

As for men putting women on a pedestal in the political arena, I was going to mention Sarah Palin.

I am not saying the following is true, but an anthropoligist might put it like this: There is not much to gain sexual selection wise for a female being a politician. In fact, its more like a detriment. But for a man, its a windfall. So no surprise men get into politics more.

I think the female politician is sort of like the woman on an all male football team. They're a target.

And I might be reiterating a bit, but so many women will bend over backwards to bag the top dog. Its something I hold against some, but not all women. Even more so if its obvious he got to be top dog by being a scumbag, and some women really don't seem to care. Some I say. Some women would never be caught dead with such a creature of the male sex.

I can sure relate to this one as far as the women bowing to the male scumbag. In principle I don't believe in insulting people; but looking back in my younger years, I think there was a lot of girls who needed a good lesson on how to insult a headstrong male. And some females just don't get it. They (referring to given clueless female) do not insult a male by telling him he's all looks but no brains. They (or we) don't care about the no brains part. That part got lost in the dialogue after the scumbags head swelled up from hearing that he is all looks. Now if they put a bit more thought into it, what they would do is find some physical flaw (slightly larger than normal ears, etc.), and proceed to make mention of said slightly large ears, and the scumbag has got a brand new complex he can take to the bathroom mirror.

I never understood why certain females were willing to perpetuate the arrogance of certain males who actually treated many of them like dirt.