Gentleman10
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- 7 Nov 2006
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...sofar I think this is the most intelligible post I've read in this argument. I can't agree with you more.
It is true that Japan has apologized for past deeds, and that is fine, but when some people start claiming the deeds for which Japan has apologized for didn't happen, that's where the trouble is.
Obeika,
"do you not accept the UN as a valid "court" of testimony."
NO.
The name "UN" may sound something wonderfully authorized to you, but not to most Japanese people.
Most part of UN's activities are those of country clubs (lol).
They get much money from Japan (2nd largest cash dispencer for UN) and spend time and money for junk activities.
They gave public hearing for "victims" to tell their stories only, but not a single chance for Japan's justification.
Don't you think it is totally unfair?
Originally Posted by miwasatoshi
It is true that Japan has apologized for past deeds, and that is fine, but when some people start claiming the deeds for which Japan has apologized for didn't happen, that's where the trouble is.
About the issue of Comfort Women, totally I stand by origami. Her opinion is not a minority in Japan.
Obeika,
Thanks. Try to change "Japan/Japanese" to "the US/Americans". It's not so unnatural.First off just because you may or may not be Japanese doesn't give you the right to talk for the majority of the country. I would never be so bold to say the same thing about my own country, you are showing your arrogance.
You have your opinion, but if by the off chance that the "majority" feel this way it is 100% due to a lack of education in schools about Japanese war crimes and Japanese wartime activities.
I doubt that tha majority are aware of all sides of the issue and only know about what their government feeds them, they can not make an honest judgement or opinion without seeing it from all sides of the story. Many/most(?) Japanese in my opinion are mostly ignorant on this subject.
Your arguments are similar to saying that you are innocent because of your ignorance.
How long do you plan to stay ignorant of what the rest of the world sees as fact?
How long are you going to live in your coccoon of belief that Japan is innocent?
Obeika, UN is a victorious nations régime. As far as veto is accepted, UN works only for the profit of some countries. The US uses it enough.
Thanks. Try to change "Japan/Japanese" to "the US/Americans". It's not so unnatural.
By the way do you ignore the latter half of my post?
What is the preponderance of the evidence?...
Just remember this, the preponderance of the evidence supports the claims of the "comfort women".
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Composite Report on three Korean Navy Civilians List No. 78,dated 28 March 1945,"Special Questions on Koreans"(U.S.National Archives)
窶伉ｾ窶｢ﾂｽ窶芭窶堙個静ｭﾂ湘ｪ窶堙??ｰﾃｯ窶堙≫?堋ｽ窶卍ｩ窶朗ﾂ人ﾋ?藩??窶｢w窶堙債、窶牢窶堙?ｽuﾅ?ﾃｨﾅｽﾃ停?堋ｩﾂ、窶板ｼﾂ親窶堙俄?昶?樞?堙ｧ窶堙ｪ窶堋ｽﾅｽﾃ停?堙寂?堋ｩ窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋?窶堙ｩﾂ。窶堙?窶堋ｵﾂ鞘?板青ｫ窶傳窶堙ｰ窶ｹﾂｭﾂ青ｧ窶慊ｮﾋ?ｵ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｪ窶堙篠、ﾋ弖ﾂ人窶堙?ﾅｽﾃ｡ﾅｽﾃ停?堙?窶卍ｩ窶朗ﾂ人窶堙最槌停?悳窶堋ｵ窶堙?塚??ｹN窶堋ｵﾂ、窶堙??堙ｱ窶堙遺?｢ﾃｱ窶｢ﾅ凪?堙ｰﾅｽﾃｳ窶堋ｯ窶堙ｦ窶堋､窶堙??愿ｺ窶怒ﾂ人窶堙ｰﾅｽE窶堋ｷ窶堋ｾ窶堙ｫ窶堋､ﾂ。
Korean people would have killed Japanese if Japanese had kidnapped Korean women.
What is the preponderance of the evidence?
It was the American who interviewed the Koreans then.In an occupied country with the occupying army being Japanese do you actually expect people here to believe this?
Read through the links I posted in a previous post on this thread. There's your evidence.
Composite Report on three Korean Navy Civilians List No. 78,dated 28 March 1945,"Special Questions on Koreans"(U.S.National Archives)
I am not playing blame games here.
So far no japanese PM has had the decency of regretting or even acknowledging the involvement of the japanese military involvement in running brothels:
"Prime Minister Shinzo Abe made clear Monday he will not offer a fresh apology on the wartime "comfort women" issue even if Japan is urged to do so by a U.S. congressional resolution.
"The resolution contains mistakes of fact," Abe told the Upper House Budget Committee when asked about his intentions....
"Even if it is passed, it does not mean we will apologize," Abe said.....
(AP) March 7, 2007.
As I told you, the govenment did not deny the existence of the brothels.Noone said otherwise, but you have to admit there is a whole lot of testimony against the Japanese military for what they did.
I thinks its kind of hard not to notice if a ton of bricks drops on your head.
As I told you, the govenment did not deny the existence of the brothels.
Buy why were they the war crime?
No bricks are needed, but just your explanation.
Of course, it is a crime, but what about prostitution or military brothel?Do you consider rape to be a crime?
Did you read my reply in a previous message? Look through the links and my answer is/are contained there.
To be fair, the UK also ran the brothel.Weary of war but ready for action: American soldiers set their sights on delights of Rio
American soldiers set their sights on delights of Rio
Backstory
In the 1950s, during the Korean war, prostitutes known as "military comfort women" flocked to "rest and recreation" sites in South Korea to earn money from troops. During the Vietnam war, Bangkok was at the centre of a huge influx of soldiers, with troops dubbing rest and recreation excursions "intoxication and intercourse breaks". Saigon became a nightlife hotspot in the mid-1970s as GIs kicked back in bars and brothels, spawning huge prostitution and drugs industries. Little has been written about the sexual escapades of troops based in Iraq, although reports have emerged of at least one brothel in Baghdad's Green Zone. Some suggest that because Iraq is Islamic, and because of high danger levels outside camps, soldiers have looked to other regions. The increase in women soldiers is also cited as a reason for a decline in war zone "comfort stations".
what?Here is where I stop replying to you on this topic, you know very well that this has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Of course, it is a crime, but what about prostitution or military brothel?
about korean matter,I think the woman from South Korea makes a good point about why Japanese politicians "have to keep apologizing"; it's because there seems to be no one agreed upon view on Japan's historical past with regards to its wrong-doings in Asia during WW2.
about korean matter,
at first ,korea requested the Annexation.
some information about indonasia at that time
Asian History: Indonesian / Malay Perspective on Japan
Their purposes,It keeps apologizing to Japan.
Sinocentrism
Couldn't part of the reason be the view that many Japanese have against Koreans? That Koreans are inferior and unwanted, and so don't deserve an apology?I have never really understood why japan is so determined to not apologize for what happened but I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with that Japan was just imitating all the previous colonial period countries. Who too never apologized for all the autrocities that happened in Africa and through out Asia.
NO, they wanted...Couldn't part of the reason be the view that many Japanese have against Koreans? That Koreans are inferior and unwanted, and so don't deserve an apology?
why does japan need to apologyProfessor Treat commments,".....every step in the process was 'correct' diplomatically, and the final annexation was consummated by....treaty , nor proclamation."As a matter of record, Japan7s annexation of Korea had considerably more "legal" documentation than most of the empire-building of the Western Powers.