美味しい喫茶店 / って / じゃない / された / いれます

[eeky]

Hello,


1. This is the start of an email from one friend to another.

この間話した美味しい喫茶店のことなんだけど。渋谷と 新宿に行けば、いくつかいい喫茶店があるよ。

a) Is the purpose of the first sentence to introduce この間話した美味しい喫茶店 as a topic or theme for what follows?

b) Who is the likely subject(s) of 話した? The writer? His friend? Both?

c) Does 美味しい喫茶店 in the first sentence refer to a specific 喫茶店 or to 美味しい喫茶店 in general?


2. This is in an email from one friend to another:

彼女の身長は１５４センチで、髪が長いんだって。

What is the purpose of って here? (Apologies if I have asked similar questions previously.)


3. Two characters talking in a 喫茶店:

Ａ： 私はコーヒーがもう一杯欲しいです。
Ｂ： でも日本の喫茶店はお代り自由じゃないですよ。
Ａ： ああ、忘れていました！もうコーヒーは欲しくなくなりました。

a) じゃない here means that the second cup is *not* free, right?

b) 自由じゃない, with the right context and intonation, could be suggesting that it *is* free, right?

c) Does the よ in 自由じゃないですよ preclude this from being a suggestion that it *is* free in any context? How about 自由じゃないです?

Sorry, I know I have asked similar questions before.


4. 神は自分の形に人を創造された。

Translation given: "God created man in his own image."

I suppose された must be honorific form, right?


5. 仮のブリッジをいれます。

Translation given: "You'll need a temporary bridge."

What form of what verb is いれます? Is it possible that it should be いります (要ります)?

 

[Toritoribe]

1) a)
Both are possible.

b)
The writer. 話してた is used for "you".

c)
I thought it was a specific one at first, but the second sentence shows it's "in general".

2)
hearsay

3) a) b)
Yes.

c)
自由じゃない（です）よ never means "is free". 自由じゃないです can mean "I think it's free/don't you thnk so?" with the rising intonation.

4)
Yes.

5)
入れます
The subject is the speaker, probably a dentist.

 

[eeky]

Thanks Toritorobe,

How do we know that the って in (2) is hearsay and not some other phrase-final or sentence-final meaning of って?

 

[Toritoribe]

Indeed, it can be a strong refutation for the addressee's suspicion as same as 長いんだってば in an appropriate context or the flow of conversation. For instance, the writer's friend had said something like 彼女は180センチ以上で、髪が短いらしいよ and the writer replied it. But even for the case, it can be misinterpret as hearsay. We usually avoid using such a misunderstandable expression, as I wrote previously.

The frequency in use is one of the major factor, I think. 自由じゃないです and 長いんだって CAN mean so, but it's not so commonly used.

 

[eeky]

I see, thanks.