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Speaking strictly, ~ようになる means "to become", so more literal translation of the sentence is "I became able to understand English a little now". Thus, ようになりました gives a nuance of comparison "better" as a result.I would have translated as "I can understand English a little now."
You don't mind put this in a sentence for me. I haven't seen this combination being used.分かってもらえる
I didn't elaborate because I didn't want to overwhelm you with a tangentially related point that is quite an involved topic in its own right.You don't mind put this in a sentence for me. I haven't seen this combination being used.
I think I know this quite well, but knowledge of grammar is absolutely inadequate. It has to go with real life examples. I need many more examples to help have grammar and words stick. One needs to learn and experience at the same time to get the maximum benefit. I had tried to Google "分かってもらえる in sentences" like what I would do in any language, but nothing came up. Never mind. It's your prerogative not to do so. Thanks anyway.~てくれる、~てもらう, and ~てあげる
I believe I do understand how ~てもらう works. It means to have someone do myself or ourselves a favour as opposed to ~てくれる which means someone does me or us a favour probably without our or my asking. Sometimes I might not be quick at recognizing some grammar construction. That is why I would often like to have examples to increase my exposure which would in turn reinforce my understanding and my memory. It's true I hadn't come across ~てもらえる before, not in the textbooks I have read so far. A brief search on the Internet for the sentences I can't find it either. I expect the syntax should be the same as ~てもらう. I guess ~てもらえる means having someone do me or us a favour so that I or we can receive something. By extrapolation, 分かってもらえる is having someone do me or us a favour so that I or we can receive the understanding of something (I or we can understand something).I don't see how you could understand the 〜てもらう construction "quite well" and at the same time not be able to fathom how 分かってもらえる could function in a sentence.
I have indeed tried searching for sentences that have 分かってもらえる on both google.com.au and google.co.jp. It doesn't bring up any sentence.Incidentally, just searching Google Japan for the phrase in question will probably give you more hits than adding the English word "sentences".
I have indeed tried searching for sentences that have 分かってもらえる on both google.com.au and google.co.jp. It doesn't bring up any sentence.
It would if I entered "分かる in sentences" or "てもらう in sentences", but not "分かってもらえる".
I suppose I just have to be satisfied with those of "てもらう in sentences".
Your understanding is wrong. The agent/doer is "someone" in ~てもらう, not the speaker "I" or "we", thus, the one who understands is someone in 分かってもらう, not the speaker. The speaker can receive a favor by someone's understanding in "分かってもらえる", i.e., it's not "I or we can understand something" but "I or we can receive a favor of someone's understanding something".I guess ~てもらえる means having someone do me or us a favour so that I or we can receive something. By extrapolation, 分かってもらえる is having someone do me or us a favour so that I or we can receive the understanding of something (I or we can understand something).
Really?I have indeed tried searching for sentences that have 分かってもらえる on both google.com.au and google.co.jp. It doesn't bring up any sentence.
I do 分かってもらえる many times no sentence would come up. No difference with 分かってもらえる and "understand" either. Please note that I'm not after grammar information but sentences that have 分かってもらえる in them.in this case, if you do a search using the search terms 分かってもらえる and "understand", you will get much better results.
私は友達に辞書を貸してもらいました。Your understanding is wrong. The agent/doer is "someone" in ~てもらう, not the speaker "I" or "we"
I want to search for sentences that have "分かってもらえる" in them, not grammar info, like what you did for me above.
searching results in a corpus
Didn't you read even just 10 results in the first page of the searching results? Indeed, only the first three links are "grammar info", but the rest are exactly "sentences that have 分かってもらえる".I want to search for sentences that have "分かってもらえる" in them, not grammar info, like what you did for me above.
I do 分かってもらえる many times no sentence would come up. No difference with 分かってもらえる and "understand" either. Please note that I'm not after grammar information but sentences that have 分かってもらえる in them.
Thank for your patience and not giving up on me! Toritoribe-san. You have given plenty. Thank you!Do I have to pick up sentences that have 分かってもらえる also from the next pages?
Where there is no subject specified in a 〜てもらう sentence, it would be "you", wouldn't it?お試し頂けたら分かってもらえるでしょう
I'm not quite sure of this one.親の工夫次第で分かってもらえることを実感!
I got those example sentences just from the search result pages, not in each linked page. You can easily find them with using the "Find In Page" function, for instance.I did give a glance. My Japanese language is no good and I didn't spot it in the summaries there.
Which do you refer to by "subject", the subject of the sentence or the subject of 試す and 分かる? For instance, in the sentence 私は友達に単語を分かってもらえました。, the subject of the sentence is the speaker "I", and the subject of 分かる is "a friend", as you already translated. Thus, the term "subject" is ambiguous in these cases. That's why the terms "the agent/the one who understands" or "the recipient of the favor" are preferred in grammatical explanations.Where there is no subject specified in a 〜てもらう sentence, it would be "you", wouldn't it?
If you are asking whether ~て頂ける can be used as a humble form of ~てもらう, yes.Is it alright to use 頂けた which is a humble language?
工夫 and 次第 mean "ingenuity" and "depending on" there, respectively.What do 工夫 and 次第 here mean? 工夫 is "scheming" etc and 次第 is "in accordance with" etc.
Those expressions are often used in a caption or title of article/chapter, or in the text of newspaper articles. Not only verbal nouns are used in this structure.実感 is a noun. Don't we need a verb after を? I expect it to be 実感する. Perhaps we treat verbal noun differently in this case.
I was looking for some simple standalone sentences to help me understand better and strengthen my memory of using 〜てわかってもらえる. Certainly I shall look harder in the future. Thanks for your kindness.I got those example sentences just from the search result pages, not in each linked page.
Sorry for my ambiguity. I was referring to the subject of 分かる.Which do you refer to by "subject", the subject of the sentence or the subject of 試す and 分かる?
I've got 親の工夫次第で分かってもらえることを実感!translated by Google as "I realize that it will be understood by the parents!"工夫 and 次第 mean "ingenuity" and "depending on" there, respectively.
You wouldn't be able to get those kinds of examples from internet, at least just from simple search. There is no problem to use google search for checking whether an expression is really used or not, but I don't think it's a good idea to try translating a quoted single sentence without knowing the context. Since Japanese is a context-driven language, as you would already know, multipul interpretations are sometimes (or maybe often) possible. For instance, the speaker can be even the seller in これは友達に買ってもらった。, as I explained in your previous thread.I was looking for some simple standalone sentences to help me understand better and strengthen my memory of using 〜てわかってもらえる.
This is a coincidence, but お試し頂けたら分かってもらえるでしょう is the Japanese translation of an English lecture. Here's the whole paragraph both in the original English and Japanese translation.Sorry for my ambiguity. I was referring to the subject of 分かる.
Since it is a 〜てまらうsentence, the subject of 分かる I believe can't be the speaker, so it must be someone else.
I'm wondering how 頂けた can be used since it is a humble language. As I understand humble language is only used when referring to oneself.
次第 works as a suffix there. Examples are often helpful to understand the meaning/usage, as you repeatedly said.Where does "depending on" fit in?
親の工夫次第で分かってもらえることを実感 is beyond me. If you're happy please let me have your translation.Care to take another shot at it?
お試し頂けたら分かってもらえるでしょう where the original English version says "And if you try that, I think you'll find that you agree."The subject of いただく (i.e. the receiver of the benefit) is the speaker (or speaker's in-group).