そこからだと / ちゅいてまちゅか / じゃないか / いったら

[eeky]

Hi,


1. ハリーは窓際に座った。そこからだと、半分隠れて、プラット ホームの赤毛一家を眺めることができたし、話し声も聞こえ た。

What is そこからだと? I understand そこから, but I don't get what だと is doing.


2. あらあら、ロニー坊や、お鼻になんかちゅいてまちゅか？

What is ちゅいてまちゅか?


3. そう言ってくれればいいのに。知らなかったじゃな いか。

This is supposed to mean "You should have said something, we had no idea" (sarcastic; they actually knew very well).

I am struggling to see how じゃないか, which presumably has at least some nuance of questioning (?), fits this sentence.


4. もしも、またふくろう便が来て、あなたたちがトイレを 吹き飛ばしたとか何とかいったら・・・・

Is いったら = 言ったら?

(ふくろう便 refers to method of sending letters using owls, in case not obvious.)

 

[Glenn]

1. "If it's from there," to be literal about it. It's stating that if he sat there, he could remain half hidden and still hear the red-headed family's voices.

2, 「ついてますか」の子供っぽい言い方。

3. It's more saying "clearly" here. 知らなかったじゃないか -- "clearly we didn't know." Or "Like we knew that."

4. Yes, I would say it has to be that. I'm not entire sure on what it's actually saying, though.

 

[Toritoribe]

2)
"baby talk" rather than "childish";-)

3)
じゃないか has a nuance of complaint there.

 

[Glenn]

2. Yeah, I thought I may have not put that quite right, but I couldn't remember the word that has 幼 in it. 幼稚語 or something like that. I just went with the closest thing I could think of.

3. In that case, "Like we were supposed to know that!" is more appropriate.

 

[eeky]

Thank you both.
Does (3) have any questioning tone (in the Japanese I mean)?

 

[Toritoribe]

2. Yeah, I thought I may have not put that quite right, but I couldn't remember the word that has 幼 in it. 幼稚語 or something like that. I just went with the closest thing I could think of.

幼児語 or 赤ちゃん言葉 is the one.

Does (3) have any questioning tone (in the Japanese I mean)?

I don't think so, since it's not 知らなかったんじゃないのか, i.e., the subject of 知らなかった is you / the addressee.

 

[eeky]

I don't think so, since it's not 知らなかったんじゃないのか, i.e., the subject of 知らなかった is you / the addressee.

Thanks... depressingly I still have no feel whatsoever for these distinctions.

 

[Glenn]

そうだ！「幼児語」だったんだ！ってかなんで「幼児」って言葉を思いつかなかったのかな。チェ。

Thanks... depressingly I still have no feel whatsoever for these distinctions.

It'll come with time. Just keep at it. It might help you to get (more) listening practice. That way you could hear the intonation.