Japanese behaviourism in tourism?
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- 8 Aug 2005
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I think there's a number of reasons for that; mainly, group tours are good deals (my host sister worked for a travel agency), they arrange everything for you, and in a country where you probably don't speak the language, it's nice to have someone that'll essentially take care of everything so you don't have to worry about all the arrangements and where to go.
undrentide
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- 18 Jan 2006
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Do you mean Japanese tourists travelling within Japan, or Japanese tourists travelling abroad?
My additional comments to nice gaijin is if you're talking about those traveling abroad, one of the main reasons is language barrier.
If you're talking about those travelling within Japan, I think there are many who prefer travelling by themselves or family.
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I wouldn't go so far to say good deals, some tours are pure daylight robbery! (not to dismiss your statement NG) Everyone gets a comission somewhere alone the line. I saw some of the stuff that went on first hand when these tours are put together. Even the tour guides get a peice of the action if they take them to a certain gift shop or amusment park ,ect ,ect. People on these tours get thoroughly shaken down.
- 8 Aug 2005
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Of course not all of them are, but my sister knew a good deal when she saw one, and pointed them out to me. She once went on a group tour to Vancouver because it was so cheap, just to split from the group and visit her friends in Ontario. Everyone's mileage does vary.
The Japanese have been raised to think of themselves as
part of a group. In all his actions he is looking for a group
with the same interests. Even for the cherry blossom trip
he prefer to form a small group or join one at the spot !!
Indivualism is not a strength. WE not I is the motto !
part of a group. In all his actions he is looking for a group
with the same interests. Even for the cherry blossom trip
he prefer to form a small group or join one at the spot !!
Indivualism is not a strength. WE not I is the motto !
- 18 Jan 2005
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Is explanation necessary about the history of a Japanese trip?
熊野詣
(kumano moude)
熊野詣（くまのもうで）とは？：熊野入門
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Because a Japanese experiences a group trip from a child,
We are used to a group trip.
It is a school excursion of a senior high school from a school excursion from the upper grades of an elementary school.
We know a rule of a group trip well.
熊野詣
(kumano moude)
熊野詣（くまのもうで）とは？：熊野入門
お伊勢講
(oisekou)
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Because a Japanese experiences a group trip from a child,
We are used to a group trip.
It is a school excursion of a senior high school from a school excursion from the upper grades of an elementary school.
We know a rule of a group trip well.
Goldiegirl
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- 10 Aug 2006
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yes, i meant japanese tourists in both travelling abroad and within Japan, people have the perception that they usually travel as a group no matter where they go (except international japanese students)
an example is prolly the Hato Bus thing? seniors or some middle age ppl always travel as a group no by themselves. are there any other reason except that its convenient? i think they have htis group mentality thing going on but my teacher said thats a vague answer
an example is prolly the Hato Bus thing? seniors or some middle age ppl always travel as a group no by themselves. are there any other reason except that its convenient? i think they have htis group mentality thing going on but my teacher said thats a vague answer
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Often people go on trips as part of some club or organization that they belong to, especially in Japan. For example, they might belong to a moutain trekking club, an English club, the Lion's Club, etc., or they might go as a member of their workplace (I've been on such trips several times.)
People do travel on their own, but they don't stand out as much, and it's easier to "excuse" yourself for a trip if you're going as part of a group.
As far as overseas trips are concerned, I think that tours are common because people who go to travel agencies to plan trips see all the advertising for tours (and there is a lot of it). Also, this is something that I've noticed:
Last time I went to Korea it cost over 50,000 just for the ticket alone. Had I gone at the exact same time with a tour, it would have been significantly cheaper, and the hotel charge would have been included. I know because I checked.
People do travel on their own, but they don't stand out as much, and it's easier to "excuse" yourself for a trip if you're going as part of a group.
As far as overseas trips are concerned, I think that tours are common because people who go to travel agencies to plan trips see all the advertising for tours (and there is a lot of it). Also, this is something that I've noticed:
Last time I went to Korea it cost over 50,000 just for the ticket alone. Had I gone at the exact same time with a tour, it would have been significantly cheaper, and the hotel charge would have been included. I know because I checked.
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There is also another group: The backpackers/students.
When I was in Australia, I have met a lot of Japanese (there are too many Japanese traveling in Australia). Some of them where travelling alone (my wife for example), and some with 2 or 3 other friends. Comparing the group tours with a 25 year old Japanese girl whom is traveling alone in Australia... big difference lol.
When I was in Australia, I have met a lot of Japanese (there are too many Japanese traveling in Australia). Some of them where travelling alone (my wife for example), and some with 2 or 3 other friends. Comparing the group tours with a 25 year old Japanese girl whom is traveling alone in Australia... big difference lol.
gaijinalways
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I think for people who do group tours;
-language problems are lessened
-no thinking about the vacation schedule (someone else plans it, except for the free time, which on a Japanese tour there is usually very little of)
-let someone take care of you
-never be lonely
Depends on the tour and the length of time you're planning to go. We talked with our friend who went to Australia. She did see a few more places than we did (but sometimes 2 hours in one place), but she spent significantly more for one person than we spent for two (and we were there one more week!).
I'll give you another example. We generally go to Europe for 2-3 weeks every year. Most of the Japanese travel agency tours are for 5-7 days! When I say 2-3 weeks, I mean the actual time in Europe where as the Japanese tours are including the flight time as well! To top it off, we spend far less when you average the costs out per day (usually less than the package price as that would be per person, not for the price of two). Now of course, if you can only take off a week, then I suppose the tour might fit your situation, but it a lot more expensive
We do some package tours in Japan, which can be cheaper, but what might be booked as a group tour (for the hotel bookings and sometimes the train as well), you basically travel on your own. In other words, beyond staying at the same hotel and riding on the trains the same days, you plan the rest of the schedule yourself.
-language problems are lessened
-no thinking about the vacation schedule (someone else plans it, except for the free time, which on a Japanese tour there is usually very little of)
-let someone take care of you
-never be lonely
Depends on the tour and the length of time you're planning to go. We talked with our friend who went to Australia. She did see a few more places than we did (but sometimes 2 hours in one place), but she spent significantly more for one person than we spent for two (and we were there one more week!).
I'll give you another example. We generally go to Europe for 2-3 weeks every year. Most of the Japanese travel agency tours are for 5-7 days! When I say 2-3 weeks, I mean the actual time in Europe where as the Japanese tours are including the flight time as well! To top it off, we spend far less when you average the costs out per day (usually less than the package price as that would be per person, not for the price of two). Now of course, if you can only take off a week, then I suppose the tour might fit your situation, but it a lot more expensive
We do some package tours in Japan, which can be cheaper, but what might be booked as a group tour (for the hotel bookings and sometimes the train as well), you basically travel on your own. In other words, beyond staying at the same hotel and riding on the trains the same days, you plan the rest of the schedule yourself.
