what martial arts should be made an olympic sport?

[Zauriel]

Judo and Tae Kwon Do are the only Asian martial arts to be made olympic sports. Olympic sports of Boxing, wrestling and fencing are also Western martial arts.

the martial arts I think should be included into Olympics:

Kung Fu
Karate
Muay Thai
Aikido
Arnis/Escrima
Savate (French kickboxing)

 

[Index]

Why? Martial arts are not sports-making them so just reduces their effectiveness by adding rules and "illegal moves" which have no place in fighting or defending one's self.

 

[Tim33]

Agreed index. All the olympics would do is limit the martial art and make it less fun anyway.
The olympics is not what it was all them years ago when killing each other was recommended.

 

[xeo4d]

No Way!

I am already upset that we have some martial arts as sports today. A martial art is what the name implies an art, something that is practiced and perfected for its value rather than use. As soon as an martial art becomes a sport it looses what makes it special. It becomes a competition with others rather than a competition with yourself

 

[Ewok85]

Martial Arts != Sports

 

[pipokun]

Rock, Paper, Scissors!
I suppose it is a Chinese-origin game.

 

[White Comet]

martial arts in the olympics have weird rules, and when i watched the tae kwon do finals there wasnt much action a few kiks here and there

 

[Revenant]

Kung Fu
Karate
Muay Thai
Aikido
Arnis/Escrima
Savate (French kickboxing)

Kung Fu, and Karate, might make good actual arts, as in the katas. Kung Fu failed miserably in actual fighting events, and Karate, beyond a very few prodigies, hasn't done too well either.

Muay Thai and Savate, as entries into a striking free for all, might be a great addition to an event with rules much similar to those of boxing.

Aikido would simply be a no-no. With all the potential for permenant damage as a result of all the small joint manipulations that take place....

Arnis/Escrima, don't know much about it, but definitely dispense with those sticks.

Submission wrestling would be an interesting sport to add. It has a lot of techniques that originated in Judo, but evolved into a fight finishing system.

 

[pipokun]

I practiced in Karate and Judo, not now, but I am not sure if I can enjoy them after I get old, say, 60 or 70 yrs old.

How about Tai Chi, one of Chinese Kung Fu? I think it is a good idea the Olympic has a sport or martial arts friendly for the elderly.
I don't know how the competition should be handled, but it must be a fun to see 80 yrs old guy winning his/her gold medal after beating youger guys.

 

[Davey]

K1 would be nice *wink*... nice extra medals for the dutch gna gna

 

[Jack]

thai kickboxing would be ruined in the olympics, so nothing really should be put in the olympics.

 

[Index]

Aikido would simply be a no-no. With all the potential for permenant damage as a result of all the small joint manipulations that take place....

You have about as much chance doing permanent damage with Aikido movement as you have choking someone with cottage cheese :banghead:

 

[Revenant]

You have about as much chance doing permanent damage with Aikido movement as you have choking someone with cottage cheese :banghead:

In the MMA world, where they allow as many techniques as possible, they banned many traditional Jui-Jitsu and Aikido moves, cause the moves manipulate small joints such as the wrist, and fingers. These joints could be permanently damaged, while the larger ones, such as the elbow, knee, and shoulder have a lot less chance of the same happening.

The pics on the net probably take place in practice, where people are carefully practicing. I can't imagine people competitively doing this without breaking a few wrists and fingers. Broken wrists have been career enders for some boxers.

 

[Index]

In the MMA world, where they allow as many techniques as possible, they banned many traditional Jui-Jitsu and Aikido moves, cause the moves manipulate small joints such as the wrist, and fingers. These joints could be permanently damage a joint, while the larger ones, such as the elbow, knee, and shoulder have a lot less chance of being permanently damaged.

The pics on the net probably take place in practice, where people are carefully practicing. I can't imagine people competitively doing this without breaking a few wrists and fingers. Broken wrists have been career enders for some boxers.

The reason the guy in the picture is flying through the air is because he doesn't know how to counter an omote gyaku. Aikido is a watered down version of an effective martial. It's really an exercise in self delusion. Anyway you don't have to make it sound impressive by saying the moves 'manipulate' joints-the point of what the guy is (attempting) to do in your picture is to break (or at least really damage) the wrist. Same goes for fingers. It's like saying a boxer manipulates your face when he gives you a right hook

 

[Revenant]

I'm sure there are counters, but even those that know counters or blocks aren't always going to be able to exercise those. I didn't know the purpose was actually to break the wrist or fingers, I just thought it was way of getting leverage, so I thought manipulate was the best word for that.

 

[Index]

I agree, when you can't counter then you go with ukemi, but to forget reality and always throw yourself for the uke's benefit is bad training practice. In any case, leverage is easier when the wrist is broken or damaged, or the pain factor get's the opponents attention thereby forcing him to open up and perhaps give you an opening. Leverage for its own sake is useless and will probably agitate the guy more, perhaps leaving you open for a hit.

 

[Index]

Martial Arts != Sports

Sports=martial arts?

 

[sabro]

I would like to see some form of Kata. There will always be judging controversies, but to have kumite without kata seems wrong.

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Martials arts are a refined form of fighting made into an art and not just a type of sprt that you ue to tone up your body or lose weight, otherwise they'd be called martial sports. Somhow i just don't think they'd fit well into the olympics.
There are already huge tornments and competecians held for these arts wordlwide and they fit best into these catagorys i think, leave it at that. Plus there are hundreds of types of martial arts, i don't think it would be fair if only a selected few were allowed in the olympics.

 

[Reiku]

The reason the guy in the picture is flying through the air is because he doesn't know how to counter an omote gyaku. Aikido is a watered down version of an effective martial. It's really an exercise in self delusion. Anyway you don't have to make it sound impressive by saying the moves 'manipulate' joints-the point of what the guy is (attempting) to do in your picture is to break (or at least really damage) the wrist. Same goes for fingers. It's like saying a boxer manipulates your face when he gives you a right hook

I'm going to take a wild guess here and assume you don't believe in ki--that or your only experience with Aikido was with a fake McDojo version.

Aikido is a powerfull martial art, placing it's emphasis on the use of ki (called chi in China) to resist attacks and improve the effectiveness of your own. It is entirely defensive, which is the only reason I haven't taken lessons in it myself--it simply would not work for me, as I cannot entertain such a passive state of mind.

Frankly, a true master of Aikido is the most dangerous opponent anyone could ever face--they are experts at redirecting the entire force of your attacks back at you, while constantly maintaining a flawless defense. Attacking one is like attacking yourself.

Back on topic: Kenjustsu.

Not kendo, which is a watered down version of an effective martial art--but true kenjutsu.

While it's true that even a bokuto (wooden sword) can kill in the hands of a master, with the advent of modern plastics it should not be impossible to create sparring swords that would posess the proper weight and balance but be impossible to kill with...

...and besides, if you can't control your attacks sufficiently to prevent injury to your opponent, you aren't good enough to be in the Olympics.

 

[Uchite]

NONE!

:samurai :

Putting any Budo in the Olympics will change that particular Budo for the most part and change its essence. Look at what happened to Judo! It is now more of a sport than a Martial Art. Some of the Europeans are now even wearing Blue dogi instead of the traditional white one. Maybe the Japanese are doing this too!