What do you think about Arab people ??

[Hezam]

and science proved that it has a dab effect on humans.

I heard that rumer,it's not true...It's Allah's order and because pig is one of the Animals witch has Tusks,pigs eat the Cadavers.

 

[Mai chan]

Alright then.But since it's forbidden I don't have to question that coz I have other sources of meat more delicious ^_^.

 

[Mycernius]

It couldn't be,God is every where:?

I could be rude on this, but I shall pass this by

;if the person in Japan or in any other country in the world he must stick to his beliefs and standards.Eating pork is not acceptable at all in Islam

Beliefs are up to the individual. I know Muslims that drink and smoke, the same with Sikhs. I used to work with Gurkhas. Most of them are Hindus, still didn't stop them from eating beef. Once of of the Gurkha chefs was cutting beef off roast and eating it. His excuse was that it wasn't a Nepalese cow.

science proved that it has a dab effect on humans.For me,this man is mistaken,he should not eat pork at all.All of us make mistakes and I wish he could correct himself before it's late.

Please cite the relative scientific papers on that rather bold assertion.

Muslims do not eat pork because it was in the jewish tradition, and islam is partially based on the jewish tradition.

I heard that rumer,it's not true...It's Allah's order and because pig is one of the Animals witch has Tusks,pigs eat the Cadavers.

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Be warned, some strong langauge, but funny as hell.

 

[RolandtheHeadless]

I always thought that pork was banned in the Koran and Old Testament Bible (Jewish Torah) because of the risk of getting trichinosis if the meat is not thoroughly cooked. It's interesting to me that there are still a lot of Americans who will tell you that every word in the Bible is literally true and God's law, but who will eat pork.

The mass-produced, cage-raised chicken found in modern supermarkets has little taste. But free-range chicken is quite tasty, if you can get it. Free-range beef is also much better than the regular stuff. I prefer wild game meat (moose, caribou, sheep) I hunt myself. While on that subject, bears can also carry trichinosis, and must also be thoroughly cooked.

 

[Mai chan]

I could be rude on this,

Why is that? I didn't say anything that makes you rude,am I not free to believe in anything as you are free too? and I do respect all beliefs of all people


Oh God is that youtube true?

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Regards

 

[faraj]

free to belive

arab peaple respect any beliver however his religion; but in the other hand....they ahven' t thir freedom in some countries

 

[RolandtheHeadless]

What countries don't allow Arab people to practice their religion?

 

[Putrefaction]

Kick his as$ ...If he really did.

Yeah, I kind of do work in a pharmacy.

 

[aki yuki]

hahaha. hate is abig word what do you mean by hate i wonder how could someone hate somebody without knowing him and belive me or not ...we are not jealous from any body . for example we the egyptian dosn't treat any people in abad way there are alot of people from anther country and ask them they will tell you we love the egyptian and we HATE just who said bad things about our beloved country no matter where he or she comes from.i my self don't have time to hate

 

[AJBryant]

The only thing I hate about Egypt is it's SO FAR AWAY. My mother loved Egypt, and I would love to spends a few weeks there, and would LOVE to have a cup of coffee with Zahi Hawass.

 

[Yukiko chan]

Yeah, I would love to visit the pyramids and the ancient temples in Egypt some day...

 

[Mycernius]

Why are you talking about the Pyramids in an Arab thread? They were bulit by the Egyptians, not Arabs. Egypt is populated by Egyptians, not Arabs. Just because they speak Arabic doesn't mean they are arabs. like saying the Australians are English because they speak English.

 

[Hezam]

Why are you talking about the Pyramids in an Arab thread? They were bulit by the Egyptians, not Arabs. Egypt is populated by Egyptians, not Arabs. Just because they speak Arabic doesn't mean they are arabs. like saying the Australians are English because they speak English.

WTH !! Where is the Egyptians now ? did we kill them ? come on man this is the most stupid post from you...! why all this hate ?

 

[Haruspex]

WTH !! Where is the Egyptians now ? did we kill them ? come on man this is the most stupid post from you...! why all this hate ?

Hey, you have to admit that the word Arab has been widened to include quite a few nations. A more radical example would be the blokes from Sudan who are considered Arab, but if you employ just a bit of sense you'll conclude: 'Bullshit, that's bollocks.'

 

[Hezam]

Sudani people are Arab,Sumali people,Djibouti people are Arab....

 

[Hezam]

Arabistan or Al-Ahwaz is an Arabic region occupied by Iran in 1925 :

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[Mycernius]

WTH !! Where is the Egyptians now ? did we kill them ? come on man this is the most stupid post from you...! why all this hate ?

I didn't say the Arabs killed the Egyptians, just that the people in Egypt are Egyptian not arabs. The were conquered by the arabs, same as they were conquered by the Persians, Romans and Macedonians, but they are still Egyptians. I think you mis-understood my post.

Think on this. The British conquered and occupied a quarter of the globe, the largest empire that has ever existed. This included parts of the middle east. Yet you are not British, as the Indians are not British. Just because a country has been conquered by another does not make the native people the same as the people who occupy them. I'm sure you agree that Palestinians are not Israeli, despite the area being under Israeli control.

 

[Hezam]

Think on this. The British conquered and occupied a quarter of the globe, the largest empire that has ever existed. This included parts of the middle east. Yet you are not British, as the Indians are not British. Just because a country has been conquered by another does not make the native people the same as the people who occupy them.

We are talking about the race not the language.....it seems that you have no idea what the different between conquered and race !
for example,Arab ruled the persians for 500 years but we don't call them Arab,their race is not Arab.
And another example,the Turk ruled Arab and persians,Kurd,Indians,Greec,and 35% of europe,they were the biggest Empire and greatest Empire ever existed,it lasted 600 years...BUT we still are Arab and Persians are persians,Europe...etc.

I'm sure you agree that Palestinians are not Israeli, despite the area being under Israeli control.

dude,there is nothing called Israel ever,it has been created by joining thousands of different people from different places so please don't fool your self with that thing called Israel.
Do you know what Israelian people is ? Russians,Arab,Europeans,Asians,Africans....etc.
No more about Israel.

It's about the Race.

 

[AJBryant]

There isn't an "eyeroll" emoticon strong enough....

 

[Hezam]

Mycernius,I will leave the answer to the Egyptians.

 

[Yukiko chan]

Why are you talking about the Pyramids in an Arab thread? They were built by the Egyptians, not Arabs. Egypt is populated by Egyptians, not Arabs. Just because they speak Arabic doesn't mean they are Arabs. like saying the Australians are English because they speak English.

I know that Mycernius! I was just stressing AJBryant's post about Egypt being a good place to visit.
In fact, most of the so-called Arab populations nowadays are non Arab ethnically speaking, and Arabic (meaning the classical language) is rarely spoken in daily conversations, if ever. Its use is restricted to formal writings and religious matters, much like Latin in Europe in the middle ages. Most people either use a vernacular form of Arabic (mostly unintelligible with the stem language) or an indigenous language, usually of low prestige and unrecognized officially, despite being the original language of the region (take Aramaic and Assyrian in Iraq, or Berber in North Africa).

That being said, I would still consider "Arab" as a cultural rather than an ethnic denomination. If someone speaks one of the Arab languages, or belongs to one of the Arab cultures and wants to call themselves Arab, that's fine by me, I would dub them so.

 

[Yukiko chan]

Sudani people are Arab,Sumali people,Djibouti people are Arab....

Hezam, that's a political map, not a cultural or an ethnic one. By no means does it reflect the will and the reality of the populations dwelling in those regions.

dude,there is nothing called Israel ever,it has been created by joining thousands of different people from different places so please don't fool your self with that thing called Israel.
Do you know what Israelian people is ? Russians,Arab,Europeans,Asians,Africans....etc.
No more about Israel.

*blink blink* If you go back enough in history you could always argue that the people living in some geographical area are none but a mixture of populations from different world regions. Of course Israel still didn't reach the homogeneity of other countries, but the fact is, our world is probably heading towards a state of more and more heterogeneity of ethnicities and cultures, wherein mono-culturalism and monolingualism will be, and are in fact already perceived as a great disadvantage rather than something to be proud of.

It's about the Race.

What race? Can you really affirm to no doubt that you're genetically a descendant of the original camel riders of the Arab desert from the 7th century and earlier? And even if you are, you may also have Greek, Persian, Indian, Zulu, or who knows, Japanese or Scandinavian ancestors as well!! (As does anybody in your area)

 

[Hezam]

OK ok i am not Arab then,i will try to ride a camel to test my blood wether it's Arabic or not.
I'm telling you as Arabic man about my culture/ethnic witch i know better than anyone else,But to see Brittish man and American man saying No that's not ture...! the planet is really changed.
Egypt is so-called Arab mother,It's Arabic 100% with no doubt.

*blink blink* If you go back enough in history

I met Solomon Prophet in Palestine and he told me ( This is not Israel,this is my kingdom you dumb..).
Palestine is Kanaan Land,Kanaan are Arab.
Israel is a colony created by England so it will stay Arabic no matter what the occupier did.

Arab worl is Arab,Europe is for europeans...china for chinese...Japan for Japanese.

What happend to your minds guys ??!!

 

[Yukiko chan]

OK ok i am not Arab then,i will try to ride a camel to test my blood wether it's Arabic or not.
I'm telling you as Arabic man about my culture/ethnic witch i know better than anyone else,But to see Brittish man and American man saying No that's not ture...! the planet is really changed.

No, I said you were culturally Arab, but you'd need to resort to a DNA test to prove that you're also ethnically Arab... not that that matters much in any case. I don't personally care whether I'm a descendant of Karl der Große or Kamehameha; I am what I am independently from who my ancestors were.

Egypt is so-called Arab mother,It's Arabic 100% with no doubt.

What it is called could be simply the result of ideological propaganda. Egypt is Arab? If that's what the Egyptians want to consider themselves, it's fine. But as far as I know, some Egyptians (at least) view themselves as the descendants of Ancient Egyptians, who speak Egyptian language (note here that it's recognized by the ISO 639 norm, and has an entry in wikipedia). I don't like the nationalistic tone of it myself, but it's up to them to choose the culture they belong to.
"Arab" nowadays is not an ethnicity, it's a panethnicity.

Panethnicity (from Ancient Greek, πᾶν pan "entire", and ἔθνος ethnos "nation") is the grouping together, and collective labeling, of various independently dinstinguishable, self-identified and self-sustained ethnicities into one all-encompassing group of people.
Often labels of panethnicity group together people of different nationalities and/or ethnicities that may in fact be very different from each other. The grouping is often done based on similar physical characteristics, sharing of a common language, or sharing of a common religion.[1]

And concerning Arabs specifically, this wiki article says:

In the modern era, defining who is an Arab is done on the grounds of one or more of the following three criteria:
Genealogical: someone who can trace his or her ancestry to the tribes of Arabia – the original inhabitants of the Arabian Peninsula – and the Syrian Desert. This definition was the definition used in medieval times, for example by Ibn Khaldun,[dubious – discuss][citation needed] but has decreased in importance as more people have come to identify as Arabs.
Linguistic: someone whose first language, and by extension cultural expression, is Arabic, including any of its varieties. This definition covers more than 300 million people. Certain groups that fulfill this criterion reject this definition on the basis of non-Arab ancestry, such an example may be seen in the way that Egyptians identify themselves.[18][19]
Political: in the modern nationalist era, any person who is a citizen of a country where Arabic is either the national language or one of the official languages, and/or a citizen of a country which may simply be a member of the Arab League (thereby having Arabic as an official government language, even if not used by the majority of the population). This definition would cover over 300 million people. It may be the most contested definition, as it is the most simplistic one. It would exclude the entire Arab diaspora outside of the Arab world, but include not only people with Arab ancestry (Persian Gulf Arabs and others, such as Bedouins, where they may exist) or who identify themselves as Arabs, but would also include Arabized groups who do not identify themselves as Arabs (including many Lebanese and many Egyptians, both Christians and Muslims) and even non-Arabized ethnic minorities who have remained non-Arabic-speaking (such as the Berbers in Morocco, Kurds in Iraq, or the Somali majority of Arab League member Somalia).

I met Solomon Prophet in Palestine and he told me ( This is not Israel,this is my kingdom you dumb..).
Palestine is Kanaan Land,Kanaan are Arab.

The land of Canaan was inhabited by several populations including the Israelites and the Phoenicians, starting 3000 BC. Both are semitic (and so are Ancient Arabs), but the first mention of Arabs as a population comes only in the 9th century BC.

Arab worl is Arab,Europe is for europeans...china for chinese...Japan for Japanese.

That's an oversimplification in my opinion. You ignore the myriads of movements of human populations over history, not to mention simple individual choice of where and how to live, and what cultural group to belong to.

 

[Mycernius]

We are talking about the race not the language.....it seems that you have no idea what the different between conquered and race !
for example,Arab ruled the persians for 500 years but we don't call them Arab,their race is not Arab.
And another example,the Turk ruled Arab and persians,Kurd,Indians,Greec,and 35% of europe,they were the biggest Empire and greatest Empire ever existed,it lasted 600 years...BUT we still are Arab and Persians are persians,Europe...etc.

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That is what I was talking about. Nothing to do with language, but of race. An Egyptian is an Egyptian, not an Arab despite speaking the language and having Arabic culture imposed on them by a conquering army. You have totally missed the point of my original post and following posts. You are running around in circles creating an argument that wasn't there.

dude,there is nothing called Israel ever,it has been created by joining thousands of different people from different places so please don't fool your self with that thing called Israel.
Do you know what Israelian people is ? Russians,Arab,Europeans,Asians,Africans....etc.
No more about Israel.

It's about the Race.

Never has been? I think you ought to read up on your history. Israel existed as an independant country in various forms from about 1200 BC until the arly first century. It is mentioned as a conquered nation in the Stele of Merneptah in 1207 BC.
Modern Israel is a created state, but them again most of the borders in the middle east were set out by Europeans during the 20th century. Yes, it is also a mixture of many ethnic groups from around the world, I'm not disputing that. I just used Israel as an example of how an oppressed people living in Israel are not Israeli. This has nothing to do with politics, religion or language. No need to fly off the handle just because I used the word Israel. You know you have a tendency to lose perspective when you even see that word?