Translation of Japanese handwriting on a wood plank

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• 23 Feb 2016

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I have a plank of wood containing Japanese Handwriting which I am working on,
Can any one here help me translate into English,



I have been trying it myself not so successfully,
Thank you very much in advance

 

Toritoribe

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？？ハ厚サハコレテ（＝デ）ヨロシク
中(or 巾)？すじまで

I don't agree with 山.
Anyway, seems like an instruction or something, maybe to a carpenter.

 

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Thank you very much Toritoribe !
I agree with you that its possible that the 中 is actually 巾 （幅）
[ from the context, Does this character mean Width or Cloth ?]

I do much appreciate your correction of my translation from すい あぐ to すじまで

The plank of wood above is shorter part of the frame for an Embroidered Cloth depicting landscape scenery, the scene contains mountains thus lead me thought that the two characters are 山

I'm not sure that the image can help in translation of the writing or not, but I hope so
Thanx

 

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Looks like a woodblock printing mold to me. Fill it with paint, press it against a canvas and leave for some time. Then show us the results.

 

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its an embroidery by knitting and sewing assorted color thread

 

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Oh. Nevertheless, soaking it in paint and pressing against a canvas may bear interesting results. Like ruining the embroidery for instance.

 

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yes, I agree

 

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The reason I don't think it's 山 is the (supposed) last stroke (the blue circles in the first picture). I believe the red circles in the second picture represent the same single kanji or 変体仮名. If those are 山, there must be another kana after 山 (between 山 and す in the left column, for instance).

巾 means "cloth" basically only in compound words. It's "width" as a single kanji.

 

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Thank you very much Toritoribe

according to the information obtained so far,
is the following translation correct,

x x x here is the thickness , with regards
width x x x until a quarter.

thank you

 

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Please use this thickness for ?.
width ? until ?

すじ can't mean "quarter".
It's impossible to interpret the meaning without knowing the context/what is written there correctly.

 

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can すじ mean "Line" (refers to the meaning No.2 in the website link) ?

「すじ」の英語・英語例文・英語表現 - Weblio和英辞書

So the translation becomes...


Please use this thickness for ?.
width ? until the line ?


notes : I was confused with the English meaning "Quarters" in the meaning No.9 (refers to the website link above) thats why I at the beginning translated すじas a quarter,
Thanx for correcting my mistake

 

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すじ can be a part of a word "？すじ". That's why I said It's impossible to interpret the meaning without knowing the context/what is written there correctly.

 

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ok

Thank you very much for your advice

 

Hoge

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Sorry for necroposting, but it seems to be:
此ぢハ厚サハコレテヨロシク
(この地はあつさはこれでよろしく）
巾此すじまで
(はばこのすじまで)
though I'm not absolutely sure about 地.
The red circled letter is not 山 but 此.

 

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Don't know about the 山 or 此 but I thought to word directly after it is うら (meaning: reverse-side)

 

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Hmm, it doesn't seem like 此 even in cursive script to me.
The second (or maybe third) character in the right column could be 分 in cursive script.

 

Hoge

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The left side of 此 is sometimes written like 山, as in
電子くずし字字典【文字一覧画面】
The second character could be 分, I agree.

 

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Actually, I consulted the same site and got 分.
The problem is that I once checked all the 936 examples in the site you linked, and got a result that there is no example that the two vertical strokes(the second and fifth stroke) are both omitted like the one in the picture. The most common 崩し字 is more likely close to け.

 

Hoge

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Toritoribe said:

Actually, I consulted the same site and got 分.
The problem is that I once checked all the 936 examples in the site you linked, and got a result that there is no example that the two vertical strokes(the second and fifth stroke) are both omitted like the one in the picture. The most common 崩し字 is more likely close to け.

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Actually, I checked them too.
But this plank seems to be not that old, and there may be difference of style
depending on times and person.
It makes sense if 此分 means something like "this part", and the extraordinarily long line of じ may be to indicate "this line".

 

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thank you very much everybody,