The Hunt has started & so has the chase!

[centrajapan]

RESOLUTION ON THE SAFETY OF VESSELS ENGAGED IN WHALING AND WHALE RESEARCH-RELATED ACTIVITIES

This resolution came due to Greenpeace using violent tactics against the Japanese whaling vessel in the IWC meeting.

 

[Chi65]

I don't understand what that amount has to do with scientific research.
That really finally does it to me now!
And killing for that reminds me on other real bad methods, with other animals plus humans. Combined with using a word like "harvest" it only makes me vomit.

to repeat myself. . . . . . . . .

 

[Rose Selavey]

Just so you know, those ugly youtube movies (from both sides) are getting quite a lot of attention in Japan, especially among younger people. Nobody in Japan had really seen those brutal kangaroo slaughter videos, and hardly knew that they were killed in millions every year until the naive Prime Minister started talking like the head of anti-whaling NGO/NPOs. That really hurt the public image of Australia, which I am sure will have a negative impact on tourism.

I thought I should let you know the slaughter of Kangaroos has been getting a lot of press in Australia too, and the situation in some states (in which a lot of illegal killing was happening), will be coming to a stop/under investigation. The public in Australia (the majority live in the Suburbs not the outback) once aware are against the slaughter of kangaroos. This is all because of pressure from people who care, things like petitions, and international outrage is healthy and a good thing. It is about time that people all around the world think more critically about what they eat and where they go for a holiday, maybe this would help stop over consumption.

 

[kame]

The youtube video war is now being covered in the mainstream media in Japan. As far as the propaganda war between Australia and Japan, it's kind of funny that the make-shift low quality video uploaded by some anonymous citizen is practically having as much if not more influence than the governments.

As far as the propaganda goes, I think the youtube video is far more successful than the comments made by the Australian officials. It shed light on the darker side of Australia that Japanese people hardly ever care to notice. Combined with other media coverages like the angry protests at Japanese consulates in Australia and its PM publicly attacking Japanese whaling, I know for sure that Japanese people will think twice before traveling or go studying in Australia. They are very sensitive to safety when it comes to traveling overseas.

On the other hand, it has been no secret for more than a decade that Japan hunts whales in oceans around the world. Damage caused by the naive Australian government is relatively minimal. If anything, it actually helped to fuel the intensity of the pro-whaling sentiment in Japan.

 

[Kyoto Returnee]

Why do you support violence? You said you support Greenpeace. Please explain.

C'mon - Torturing and ultimately slaughtering 1000 whales in the name of "Scientific Research" is hardly violent, I think it points more towards genocide.

 

[Chi65]

Like the "harvest" of the jews and native indians etc., just a very small step further and you have the according mentality. well, I am informed about certain things in Korea, or better Manchukuo, it equaled our german genocide in more than one point. . .
By the way, the original culture(!) in Taiji said, that a certain very small amount of whales for own use would be alright, but if more, it would bring bad luck, so they said in the video and that I can very well believe. . .it will fall back on them, one way or another, thats for sure. Its a natural law. And they cannot say, that they did not know it.
But thats not only for the whaling, nor only for Japan.
But additionally regarding the very bad slaughter-habits, its completely out of proportion there now, and thats the theme here.
To relate it all to eating habits or offence to racism is a big bad joke. I just can't believe it any more.
(That does not go towards Japanese people in general, not to confuse things)

 

[centrajapan]

Are you guys vegeterians? I would say it is much worse to kill 1 million cows a month than a thousand whales a year. Not to mention. Australia´s leading environmentalist says the japanese whale hunt is sustainable and whale meat is more eco friendly than producing beef, pork or lamb.

To mix Holocaust with Whale hunting shows what a racist mind set some people have.

Fanatics.

 

[centrajapan]

Chi. You seem to know very little about whalig and seem to have a very judgemental attitude towards whaling. I wonder why it is worse to eat whales than pork or beef?

The IWC emerged to make sure that countries could utilize whales and make sure whales would not go extinct. To make sure the hunt was sustainable. How many whales should be hunted should be according to scientific findings. Stock numbers. The greater the uncertainties is stock the less whales should be hunted.

Due to uncertainties in stock numbers Japan agreed to stop hunting whales. The whaling ban came in effect in 1986 and would be reevaluated after 1992 or 3. By that time it was clear that the whales Japan wanted to hunt were not endangered.

In the 90s Japan decided to launch a scientific research programme. What Japan researched on was how many whales Japan can hunt and make sure the population does not decrease and the effects it had to the eco system.

All countries who conduct a commercial hunt conduct a scientific research programe first. Once they find out that it is possible to carry out a hunt without making the stock decrease countries start hunting whales using a whale management scheme called RMP.

Since the whole point of IWC is to let countries harvest whales at the same time make sure the population does not decrease. By voting against Japan those countries are not doing their jobs at IWC. They are sabotaging the IWC because they look at whales as some special animals.

As far as the environment is concerned there is no reason for why Japan should not be able to take 1000 whales from a stock of 1,000,000 whales.

Despite Japan hunting 1,000 minke whales the population is increasing each year. And producing whale meat is more environmental friendly than producing beer, lamb or pork.

 

[Sarapva]

This is from Greenpeace.org - the Greenpeace ship "Esperanza" plans to use peaceful interception methods to keep the Japanese whalers from harpooning whales.

Activists will drive inflatable boats between the whaler's harpoons and the whales while using high-powered water pumps to create a curtain of icy water, obscuring the harpooner's view.

We will never do anything to endanger the Japanese vessels or crew. We will, however, use all peaceful means at our disposal to stop the killing of any more whales.

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/greenpeace-confronts-whaling-f

 

[centrajapan]

Its a lie. Just like everything else on this whalng issue presented by Greenpeace. Had they not been endangering lives of the whalers would IWC never have come with a Resolution in the first place. IWC consists of anti whaling countries too. ANd the resolution was passed on by 24 votes to 2. Something like that anyway. There were 2 voted against and the rest voted in favour. My bet is that the 2 countries voted against were Australia and New Zeland. 2 anti whaling fanatical countries.

 

[Kyoto Returnee]

This is from Greenpeace.org - the Greenpeace ship "Esperanza" plans to use peaceful interception methods to keep the Japanese whalers from harpooning whales.

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/greenpeace-confronts-whaling-f

Fantastic!

The world needs more organizations like GREENPEACE.

Hope the whale killers don't turn violent and start to harpoon the Green Peacekeepers.

 

[Chi65]

Are you guys vegeterians? I would say it is much worse to kill 1 million cows a month than a thousand whales a year. Not to mention. Australia´s leading environmentalist says the japanese whale hunt is sustainable and whale meat is more eco friendly than producing beef, pork or lamb.

To mix Holocaust with Whale hunting shows what a racist mind set some people have.

Fanatics.

Back to sender, who started the racist theme fanatically, do you have a mirror over there?

And the other post needs no answer, since you constantly ignore my points plus have been lying yourself so often now.. .
I am 100% sure, Greenpeace would not. I know some VERY honest ones here for years too and their stories and points.
And they will not give up at all, worldwide.

 

[Chi65]

Disgusting ones may fit more here for those extreme whalers and dolphin-killers.
They violated their very own culture of staying in harmony and respect towards the riches of the sea.
And their own elders said themselves, that it would bring bad luck, if not. . .
Its finally their own problem to have to face them to be right.

 

[centrajapan]

Thanks to modern Japanese technology the whale killers are able to kill whales more huamanly than before. Compared with any wild animal the whale hunt has much stricter guidelines. Why dont you just say. I think whales are magnificent animals so they should not be killed. But the Japanese can still kill deer, cows and pigs because we in Germany do it too.

 

[Chi65]

Blind yourself, not others, who have seen already.