Dream Time
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- 20 Jul 2003
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Originally posted by wan pak hin
well dream time indeed you are right!! as you are chinese i am sure your grandparents have told you many stories about what the japanese did to our people! as a matter a fact their have been many films elaborating how the japanese and chinese people hate each other, their was a really good bruce lee film which elaborated this perfectly!! and a jet li film called: once upon a time in china, that film also elaborates about, the problems china had with foreigners wanting to take over china, and all the problems the foreingners brung to china, and takeing chinese women etc.., hmm.... dream time are you a han chinese or a yue chinese?? because han chinese people look down upon me and my family, as we are not "pure chinese" to them!!, and yep we indeed do call china "MIDDLE KINGDOM" hmm.. let me try and romanise the character, i guess it would be ZUNG GWOK maybe in romanised cantonese hmm.. i am not 100% certain though so if my romanised chinese is no good please tell me??, and indeed my grandparents have not forgot what japanese people did to our race, and even my mother gives me warnings about japanese women, to tell the truth i have not got a problem with japanese people as most of my freinds here are japanese, and my girlfreind is japanese, but if i ever want to get married to my g/f, my mum and grandparents will definetly not approve, and dis own me!!, my fatehr has no problems with japanese people either, it is just my mum's side of family, well.. to tell the truth i agree we should just let it be history but i think an apology from japanese goverment would be nice!! and about taiwan, mainland china does not like taiwan as it is called a "REBEL STATE!" so their is even problems with our own race dream time!
Originally posted by kirei_na_me
Well, that's not what some of the Japanese people I know say. That might be the true meaning, but they mean it more in a metaphorical sense. In other words, they think China is too arrogant, hence saying that about the center(middle). I have found out in the past years that Chinese people think they are superior to Japanese and the Japanese think they're superior to Chinese. Obviously, there is no right answer. Both are entirely different and I find neither to be any more superior than the other.
Originally posted by Dream Time
I think it is a serious problem that one race thinks they are superior than another race.
from what I've read from history,Japanese people actually started to think they are superior than the Chinese like more than 500 years ago,I don't know why
actually there are many people of the strong countries being too arrogant,Chinese,Japanes,Americans...
Originally posted by wan pak hin
their was a really good bruce lee film which elaborated this perfectly!!
you are right. Actually, I can't really be objective about anything that has to do with America since I dislike usa (i still have friends there). usa is everything but not perfect. But anyway, I better stop talking about usa since then it might happen that I can't stop. Oh, and usa and possibilities? That's a joke. if that would be true, then the following things wouldn't be facts:America isn't such a happy place as everyone imagines it. Sure there's more opportunities and stuff, but there's still racism almost everywhere you go. But the racism has improved, and everyone
Originally posted by Navi
rascism disgusts me. i don't even know why it exists. a person is a person.
Originally posted by wan pak hin
well.. dream time great you know the bruce lee film, and ohh.. your grandparents passed away! i am sorry to hear that and COOL!!! you are yue chinese!! great my family originally come from SAI KUNG!! which is a little villiage in NEW TERRITORIES dream time do you know of this place?? it is near SHA TIN etc.. , well... actually my great nan passed away in june!! but my nan and grandad tell me all things she did in her life etc.. on phone and in HK when i went their recently for 3 days to go to funeral etc.., and indeed we do get looked down upon, my mother got arrested in beijing when she was like 21 because she was talking cantonese, well i still want taiwan to be apart of china although i think it should have a separate goverment like HK, and nope dream time it is NOT TRUE!!! if i want to i could change my family name to my girlfreinds in that case i would become ROBERT MAEDA (english name now is ROBERT WAN) but i tend to use my chinese name more!, and also if my girlfreind wanted to she could keep her family name and not take mine, but it is custom for me to take japanese family name which i will not do!!! i am proud of being chinese! and wish to keep my family name! and infact my giflreind KAORI would prefer to have my family name she said to me if we ever wish to get married!!, hmm.. koreans are cool people dream time but they tend to stick to their own race or english people i know from freinds! well dream time it is nice to have a fellow HK person on this board who has lived in western country!, and wow you lived in HK for a while cool!! i lived their for maybe 6 months max! due to some problem my family had in england!
Originally posted by wan pak hin
well personally dream time i think indeed their are many arrogant people from all other the world!!, but some japanese people here are really annoying towards me and my girlfreind they call my girlfreind things like "traitor" and "white washed" even though i am not white! and some people call me things like "lord of the dogs" and yep i get called stupid things like "chinky" which is what i got called once before, when i heard that here i was very surprised that japanese people even know that word!, one person explained the line of so called country greatness to me! he said it goes like this "japan, english, korean .......... and at very bottom CHINA", well i do not stoop to their levels but some times i give insults in cantonese as japanese think i am saying something worse then i actually am saying! usally i say "DIU LEI LOU MO POK GAI" or something like that dream time hehe.. surely you know what that means huh..., and yep me is also SUPER PROUD of being chinese, my parents and my grandparents have taught me to be proud of my culture, and history! and even be proud of what MAO TSE DONG accomplished for mainland china, that is only slight thing i argue about!, and like you i do not think i am supiror to any other race, i prefer treating everybody EQUALLY!! but some japanese and other people in the world tend to think differently!, and at times i am surprised japanese people can tell the difference between japanese and chinese as i look pretty much same as a japanese or a korean and chinese! really only difference i notice between chinese and japanese is their eye's are sometimes slightly bigger, and their cheeks are more puffed out! but still the bottom line is EVERYBODY IS EQUAL!! AND SHOULD NOT FEEL OR THINK AS IF THEY ARE SUPIROR IN ANYWAY!!
Originally posted by kaz
I don't think Japanese feel they are better than Chinese. Generally speaking they are not thinking so much about Chinese.
When I started hanging out with Chinese students in America, I felt that they were surprised that I am a okay person despite that I am Japanese. I felt that they were thinking "Oh, Japanese people are not as bad as I thought (or I was taught?)."
Is this a correct thinking or just my misunderstanding? Maybe my kanchigai (misconception)?
Originally posted by wan Pak hin
Japanese message boards are saying how they dislike Chinese??? I wonder if I may have one if you know any?? as I am curious what they say about us!!
Originally posted by maji
saying that one is proud on ones race is already a strange comment imho.
how can you be proud on something that people did you have no connection to at all? be proud on yourself what you accomplished and not what others did. and the "race" thing is silly anyway. after all, we are all just africans that spread over the world and because of us adapting to the environment we moved to and because of mutations the ways we look changed, and because of traditions and experiences and such our behaviour changed.
and beeing proud on a country? i dont know... you can say that you are happy with the way your government deals with and the way your country looks but again the thing is, imho, that borders exist only on paper. if you stand on a border in the landscape you cant point into that direction and say "thats great" then point in the other and say "thats evil" because its exactly the same.
beeing proud on your country and race means that you think that your races is really great and from saying that your race is great its no far step to even think that its better then other races or countries. and then we are back at racism.
sure its just not that way. many people (most people?) dont ponder about what they do, dont have the right values (which again would be another discussion). world is cruel, so find build your nest of friends and such and live with it, well, thats what i try.
I didn't say its equal = the same. I said I see a connection between both. There is no long way from saying that your race as really great and awesome to say that other races are not that good and plain suck. And once you say that people you don't know suck just of their race, then ur a racist.and no, being proud of your race does not equal to racism,
respect is always good, but in matters of pride... well, I guess there might be several reasons why I think differently here. One might be that Germans don't really race. Germany is kind of in the centre of Europe, and people from every country travel through Germany and leaves their genetic material here, so we are a mix (btw I read over and over everywhere that Japanese people can't have a pure race because they are a mix of races themself as well. Neither did I really dig myself into that topic, nor does it necessarily belong in this post)?you can be proud of your race and at the same time respect and be good to the people of other races
Originally posted by wan pak hin
and i guess if taiwan does go independent, they will definetly side with americans and japanese! then taiwan will have many army bases like south korean!