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Originally posted by Ami
alright Moring Musume ROCKS! weee I'm a supporter now!What's their best song so I can get into their music?
Originally posted by Meiji Lythtis
No my friend, u r the one that have to read everything before answer coz u didn't read or u did not understand... u said MM r copies, if u think dat it's ok, but what hayashi said (btw, welcome to the forum hehe) is and i agree: Every group, singer, band, etc, derives their style from another one... so, there rn't any totally original nowadays, and if u call copy to Morning Musume, u must say the same to every group,singer, etc...
Originally posted by Meiji Lythtis
i do know MM fans from all over the world, and i haven't known anyone with pedophile... and i'm not pedophile, r u? those other ppl that remark that, r they MM fans?
Originally posted by Meiji Lythtis
and why a lot of ppl will argue if i said that MM the BEST that JPop can offer? ... i know it's not true, there r a lot of stuffs JPop can offer, but also for me MM is one of the best, and u can do nothing to change that, and if ppl argue is not my problem, they can say whatever they want as i do...
Originally posted by Old School
It's been a month since I asked the question and still nobody has named anything "new and creative" that MM has done. The fact remains that Morning Musume copied the Onyanko Club formula and you come-latelys are too ignorant to know the difference.
It's not that we don't know the difference. We just don't know the Onyanko Club. One thing is that MM is lasting longer than OC did, and it is still here now. MM graduates such as Natsumi Abe, who's been with MM for the last six years, touched the hearts of many, even to fans less than for half a year. You can like your old and past things, like Elvis or whatever, when you weren't that old (that's for calling us ignorant), and we'll like ours, while it's here, original or not. Then later when we're old, we can bother the next third generation about how great our old artists were while they don't give a rat about what we say.Originally posted by Old School
Ok genius, name one Japanese pop group that had the same formula as Onyanko Club before them. I'm talking about Morning Musume and Onyanko Club here, not "every group, singer, etc." It's been a month since I asked the question and still nobody has named anything "new and creative" that MM has done. The fact remains that Morning Musume copied the Onyanko Club formula and you come-latelys are too ignorant to know the difference. Yeah, I can call you a come-lately because I've been listening to Japanese Pop for over 20 years, probably longer than you've been alive. And SEEN more live Japanese pop concerts than you have (in Japan, not Puffy live in the US).
Originally posted by Eternal Wind
Any pics of MAKI??
Originally posted by hayashi
I'm not going to agree or argue with you about the MM/Onyanko similarities, primarily because I've never heard of Onyanko before seeing them referred to in your posts
Originally posted by hayashi
Copies aren't bad just because they're copies.
Originally posted by hayashi
Look at The Monkees. They were designed to be American copies of The Beatles. That doesn't mean there's nothing to like about The Monkees. They had some good songs and personalities and developed their own fan base. It's not fair to call their fans "ignorant" just because they liked a group that was modeled after The Beatles.
Originally posted by hayashi
If you only like music that's "new and creative," I guess you're not a Hikki or an Ayu fan either, since you can hear music just like theirs on any American radio station. Most people, though, don't decide how much they like something on how "new and creative" it is. They just go by what sounds (and, in the video age, looks) good.
Originally posted by Keiichi
It's not that we don't know the difference. We just don't know the Onyanko Club.
Originally posted by Keiichi
One thing is that MM is lasting longer than OC did, and it is still here now.
Originally posted by Keiichi
You can like your old and past things, like Elvis or whatever, when you weren't that old (that's for calling us ignorant), and we'll like ours, while it's here, original or not.
Originally posted by Timsan
Old School you are the most pathetic ethug/nerd I have ever come acrossed in my life. Your some American debating over the legitimacy of some fking pop group in Japan of whom you have no relation other then envy and obsession? God you need to get a life or some help man.
"oOoOo I know everything about some Japanese pop group because I wish I was Japanese and knowing everything about them will make me Japanese and cool."
Sorry but your not winning anything here your just losing at life.
Originally posted by Keiichi
Man, Old School, you gotta relax more.You're actually the one flaming. And you're personally attacking us by calling us ignorant for like the 20th time, calling me a kid, etc. And you're provoking and insulting us with lines like "The bootleggers will LOVE you!," "Now stop embarassing yourself. Quit while you're behind." That's not even a clean argument and not worth participating in either. I don't take what you're saying half as serious as you probably do or what me to.
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Originally posted by Old School
Wow, now you probably feel much better about yourself trying to put me down in turn, right ("ethugging" me back?)? Did I every in any way try ever to present myself as wanting to be Japanese? You also assume too much.
I replied to the posts towards me point for point and pointed out what people misunderstood about my posts. It's not my fault that some people here can't seem to understand simple English.
And by the way, you should never refer to yourself in the honoriffic "san" - it's considered rude and arrogant. It's something people learn in their first week of Japanese class. Ignorance again...
Originally posted by Old School
Ok I've calmed down. And you're actually right, some of what I've said was uncalled for. Apologies to you, Hayashi and Meiji. But I stick by my points (people, please read carefully before responding!). I guess it got way out of hand. If people would just take what I said at face value and not put words in my mouth, I wouldn't explode like this.
Originally posted by Old School
your statements would have more credibility if your grammar and spelling skills were at least decent.
hayashi said:Lots of them.