Learn Japanese Fast
- Thread starter Adam J
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I am here in the U.S., I am a serious student of Japanese culture, history, society, and what have you, and a student of the language, having been so for a few years so far.
My saying so will show how unknowledgeable I am, but I was under the impression that the longest I would ever get to stay in Japan (assuming by miracle I ever do get there) would be 90 days, and if I wanted to stay longer, I would have to leave the country and then reenter for up to 90 days on another visa (or via whatever red tape is required).
(I am taking no issue with what you say. I am not doubting it or challenging it.)
What you say here offers some hope of a longer stay.
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I think if you have the chance to speak to someone in Japanese as apose to learning from a book etc. It's easier and faster to leave out the particles when you're not sure and just say the words. Eventually you will naturally pick up the order and positioning of as you did with English.
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You can get a working visa for a year to start and extend it indefinitely if you can organize a job first. Most Americans come on a working visa teaching English which is not so hard to attain as long as you have been to college. People under thirty and hailing from Australia, New Zealand, Canada, England and probably others can get a working holiday visa for 18 months. Or you could marry a native
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Putrefaction
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I think if you have the chance to speak to someone in Japanese as apose to learning from a book etc. It's easier and faster to leave out the particles when you're not sure and just say the words. Eventually you will naturally pick up the order and positioning of as you did with English.
I tried this but...it's really hard to think on the spot and make sure your sentence isn't so jumbled! Especially when you're rusty. Opposite of our native language, obviously.
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Mike, when you were learning, were you in Japan?
Great news, that. Till now, I had thought it would be harder than pulling teeth to get to live in Japan.You can get a working visa for a year to start and extend it indefinitely if you can organize a job first. Most Americans come on a working visa teaching English which is not so hard to attain as long as you have been to college. People under thirty and hailing from Australia, New Zealand, Canada, England and probably others can get a working holiday visa for 18 months. Or you could marry a native
srintuar
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- 2 Jul 2006
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Thanks for sharing.
that matches closely to what I suspected: Parents alone cant really control what their kids will choose to acquire. The individual personalities of the kids themselves, and the greater society/environment around them have a predominant effect.... perhaps
Being 17 and 15, they must have english classes in school. Do they ever come to you for help with those?
tomhogers
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- 3 Feb 2006
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Hi Adam, I`ll take you up on your offer.
As a Japanese language learner not living in Japan, and therefore with little contact with Japanese native speakers to offer advice, I found the most difficult thing was learning the readings of Kanji Words.
I think your program should present the different pronunciations of Kanji, and give plenty of example sentences (preferably with native recordings) to show the differences, as used in context.
Cheers,
Tom
As a Japanese language learner not living in Japan, and therefore with little contact with Japanese native speakers to offer advice, I found the most difficult thing was learning the readings of Kanji Words.
I think your program should present the different pronunciations of Kanji, and give plenty of example sentences (preferably with native recordings) to show the differences, as used in context.
Cheers,
Tom
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Hi Tom, thanks for your input. That's a very good point. However, the course I'm putting together at the moment is called SPEED JAPANESE and it is a beginners course focussing almost completely on conversation. I do plan though on producing more advanced courses later on and will keep your advise in mind when doing so.
Thanks again, Adam.
Thanks again, Adam.
nellie1208
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Learning to speak Japanese could not be that fast. It depends on the person. On how determined they are when it comes to practicing.
I am currently practicing my skills on speaking Japanese, and I could say that I am halfway of my learnings. i do want to be fluent that's why I'm practicing it very well!
If you want, I could share with you were I am studying Japanese language, here at Learn Japanese for free | Rocket Japanese trial you could be able to practice it briefly.
Good luck,
I am currently practicing my skills on speaking Japanese, and I could say that I am halfway of my learnings. i do want to be fluent that's why I'm practicing it very well!
If you want, I could share with you were I am studying Japanese language, here at Learn Japanese for free | Rocket Japanese trial you could be able to practice it briefly.
Good luck,
Alonely
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- 13 Dec 2005
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Very true. I'm quite far along already and I've only been seriously studying for a couple of months, despite having been interested for many years.^^^u can get to a basic conversational level in less than six months. I did. It's achievable
A question I have about Japanese is if information I've gotten from a site is correct.
As I've been learning Japanese, I notice that the people from the materials I use and videos I watch say a slight "sh" in front of "hi" (e.g. I say "shitori" with a soft s instead of "hitori", etc.). I've also heard that this is an aspect of Kanto-ben. I have adopted this and want to know if this is actually common in Tokyo or Japan in general at all so I don't sound like a blimey fruit. Any help appreciated.
Also, if anyone wants a recommendation on a fanTAStic language learning software (including Japanese of course), it'd have to be that of the Michel Thomas Language Learning Method.
Glenn
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It's common, although it's not quite the same as the English "sh". The sound is produced at the velum (in the back of the hard palate) and is a fricative (the same sort of sound as "sh"). Basically, the difference between the two is where it's produced. The English "sh" is alveo-palatal, and is produced with the tongue restricting airflow right behind the lump of gums behind your top teeth, with the hi of hitori being produced where I described above. Depending on your flavor of English, you may actually produce this sound when you say "human".
Not only films but a lot of the normal TV is subtitled and I've learned a lot of kanji that way but only because my listening is pretty good. Won't help you write them mind you, but at least with a computer it helps.
After reading this thread I wonder what makes the op think he's the right person to teach Japanese.
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Because I've been doing it successfully for a decade maybe. Because I run my own language school. Or maybe because I learnt Japanese well enough to have a normal conversation in under six months. You choose..
That could describe a lot of people here including myself but I wouldn't say I'm qualified to teach Japanese. You might have a great product, but honestly, just reading this thread I wouldn't buy it. So that should tell you that you got to work on your presentation or something.
Have you ever written text books before this attempt? Do you have a degree in Japanese? Have you taught Japanese in a high school or college before? Have you ever published anything?
You don't have to answer, I'm just throwing these out as things that at least for me would make more sense than claiming that you learned Japanese quikly.
If anybody wants to learn Japanese quickly there is a great series of texts called "Learn Japanese" by John Young and Kimiko Nakajima. Anybody should be able to get through the first few volumes and have the basics down. They cost between $12~$20 a volume and are used at many universities to teach Japanese. There might be better ones out there but these would give anybody a good fundation to grow on.
You don't have to answer, I'm just throwing these out as things that at least for me would make more sense than claiming that you learned Japanese quikly.
If anybody wants to learn Japanese quickly there is a great series of texts called "Learn Japanese" by John Young and Kimiko Nakajima. Anybody should be able to get through the first few volumes and have the basics down. They cost between $12~$20 a volume and are used at many universities to teach Japanese. There might be better ones out there but these would give anybody a good fundation to grow on.
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Thank you you for clarifying. Unfortunately I cannot answer yes to all of the above questions. However in putting together the course I employed the help of my Japanese wife, the owner of one of the largest Kumons in the Kansai area, and the principal of a cram school specializing in Japanese language.
I learnt Japanese very quickly and consider myself quite proficient in everyday conversation. I don't however by any means consider myself an expert in all areas of Japanese. My reading and writing of kanji is quite poor compared to a lot of people I've seen on this forum and while I have a sound understanding of Japanese grammar, I'm probably not the best at articulating some of the more difficult or finer points. That's why I created a course aimed at learning everyday Japanese conversation as fast as possible. I hope this sets your mind at ease and sorry for not giving a better explanation to begin with.
I learnt Japanese very quickly and consider myself quite proficient in everyday conversation. I don't however by any means consider myself an expert in all areas of Japanese. My reading and writing of kanji is quite poor compared to a lot of people I've seen on this forum and while I have a sound understanding of Japanese grammar, I'm probably not the best at articulating some of the more difficult or finer points. That's why I created a course aimed at learning everyday Japanese conversation as fast as possible. I hope this sets your mind at ease and sorry for not giving a better explanation to begin with.
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What's the price going to be? 'Cause I really want to learn (or should I say, continue learning) Japanese as fast as possible to beat the two & 1/2 year timeline I have on me.
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docs.nieves-and-company.com/Minna no Nihongo & Practicing Nihongo/
If it loads for you, then you can all see what material I've been using.
If it loads for you, then you can all see what material I've been using.
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