Japanese Rap

Well Golgo, you think that is bad... you wanna hear something ironic? My fiance is Japanese as you may or may not know from some of my posts... Anyway, she can't stand it when I curse like a sailor (something I have quite a great deal of proficiency at, mind you), but yet she can pop in 'insert random rap act here' and they curse up a storm with a fury not seen in history and it is perfectly acceptable.

What are you gonna do?

So now, when she yells at me for cursing, I simply tell her that I'm rehearsing for my rap debut :p


Ant
 
I'm surprised she recognizes cursing and that it bothers her. Where did she get the sensitivity from? "Bad" words don't usually sound that bad when they're in a foreign language.
 
antantrevolution said:
Well Golgo, you think that is bad... you wanna hear something ironic? My fiance is Japanese as you may or may not know from some of my posts... Anyway, she can't stand it when I curse like a sailor (something I have quite a great deal of proficiency at, mind you), but yet she can pop in 'insert random rap act here' and they curse up a storm with a fury not seen in history and it is perfectly acceptable.

What are you gonna do?

So now, when she yells at me for cursing, I simply tell her that I'm rehearsing for my rap debut :p
Ant

Speak like Popeye the sailor: "Yak yak yak yak yak. Well, blow me down."

It's not the cursing perse that bothers her. She wants you to be a gentleman.
 
in the US,hip hop is a culture
in Asia,hip hop is a trend,packaging

ask those Asian kids who dresses and talks like hip hop : 'what is hip hop?'
many of them can't even answer you,or they have misunderstood the hip hop culture

if you dress like a rocker,punk,hip hop,or whatever
if you don't truly understand the culture
you clothes are just empty shells
and you are just a pretender
 
Golgo_13 said:
I can't stand rap if it's in English.

When I hear that done in Japanese I just want to pull my hair out, oops can't do that . . . I don't have much left. I wanna Vomit!

:mad:

They were playing it in a Japanese book store in LA.

Don't these young'uns realize how pathetic they sound?

Mind you, they say "mother f__ker" and "b!tch" and such phrases in English.

Just another example of the Japanese trying to imitate something from a different country/culture.

I have a couple of J-Rap "music" videos that I keep solely for their comic value. It's hilarious to watch a bunch of guys throwing up faux gang signs. As for the idea of Rap in Japanese, it's bogus as hell if you ask me. Why? Because they don't have to rhyme anything.

A few months ago, while standing around an AM-PM convenience store in Tokyo waiting for my bento to be zapped in the microwave, I walked over to the magazine rack and thumbed through a Hip-Hop magazine.

It was basically 99% advertisements on hip-hop fashion, some of which were very thinkly disguised to look like articles. And you should see the exorbitant prices the Japanese kids pay so that they can dress like economically deprived American street urchins......
 
Hip Hip originated from Bronx where black and latin kids talk about stories from everyday life to music

I wonder what do the Japanese kids have to rap about.

as I saw someone said,the Japanese kids who got into hip hop into the last 2,3 years,only see the 'bling bling' image of hip hop, and those gangsta rap,
they don't understand the hip hop culture nor they do care
they just think it is 'cool'
 
Yeah, I agree that some of these J-rap cats are wannabe ganstas, but at the same time they aren't necessarily rapping about being a gansta(You know, Murder, Murder). If they have a dope beat to go with their flow, then it's on. Man, they are a lot of American rappers who lyrics are not really up to par, but if they have a good beat then they are going to be able to sell albums. I'm still a fan of Dragon Ash, Rip Slyme, because they sound together as a group. For Rip Slyme, they all have their own unique voice, so you can basically tell who's rapping. I don't know, it seems like this generation is more apt to curse than previous generations. Either way, if it's got a dope beat, and the lyrics aren't total crap, it will more than likely become a hit.
 
mikecash said:
I have a couple of J-Rap "music" videos that I keep solely for their comic value. It's hilarious to watch a bunch of guys throwing up faux gang signs. As for the idea of Rap in Japanese, it's bogus as hell if you ask me. Why? Because they don't have to rhyme anything.

A few months ago, while standing around an AM-PM convenience store in Tokyo waiting for my bento to be zapped in the microwave, I walked over to the magazine rack and thumbed through a Hip-Hop magazine.

It was basically 99% advertisements on hip-hop fashion, some of which were very thinkly disguised to look like articles. And you should see the exorbitant prices the Japanese kids pay so that they can dress like economically deprived American street urchins......

I've heard plenty of artists that sound better than most Western hip-hop by tenfold.

Arata, Shakkazombie, Buddha Brand. Those guys are pretty talented, IMO.
 
mikecash said:
And you should see the exorbitant prices the Japanese kids pay so that they can dress like economically deprived American street urchins......
ROFL,
Anyone ever visited the jeans shop in the Prince Plaza at Karuizawa? I was amazed to see some worn out old threads selling there for upwards of Y80,000!
And they weren't even mouldy or covered with 50 weight hog juice! I wonder what I could have got for my old 'going outs' had I brought them over from Aus. with me.
Is it possible there is a shop here somewhere where I can trade my 'rebel without a clue' guise for a 'bad-assed homie street attitude', or maybe put one on lay-buy? Maybe I can get some tuition from the local 'Yankee Boys'!
I reckon the Hell's Angels could make a fortune here. They could franchise some 'Hog's Breath Institutes', and make a killing (read;a fortune).
 
Japanese hiphop culture started in the 80s...and has blown up in the past few years, producing the big amount of mainsteam pop rap groups such as kick the can crew, rip slyme, heartsdales etc, and also causing some rappers to change their style to cash in on the new trend (eg zeebra). but if u dig deep there are many rappers and producers who stay true to the hiphop culture. Japan in fact has the biggest underground hiphop scene outside of the US next to France. you should not make ignorant statements if you didn't even do any research on the history of japanese hiphop culture.

Da pump is pop, why are they even mentioned here? i guess many people tend to think one verse of 'rap' = hiphop?

sure a lot of Japanese kids are misguided into thinking that bling and baggy pants are hiphop, but which country doesnt have kids like tat?

my bf has been listening to japanese hiphop for the past 10 years, perhaps i will get him to come share his views here. ^^
 
k...i find asian hiphop/rap (well mostly japanese and korean), extremly funny and entertaining, and i listen to it at times...and thats saying something...cause i REALLY dislike american hiphop/rap ><
 
for rapping, Jay Chou from taiwan is quite gd. although i'm not his fan. He is really popular in Singapore.
 
I draw the line at Japanese rap. I took a chance listening to J-rock. I still don't care too much for J-Pop. But J-Rap? God, that is so ridiculous. It's like me seeing an Asian Santa Claus... not right.
 
december said:
I draw the line at Japanese rap. I took a chance listening to J-rock. I still don't care too much for J-Pop. But J-Rap? God, that is so ridiculous. It's like me seeing an Asian Santa Claus... not right.

So now Asians aren't allowed to Rap? Oh dear, Someone better tell Jin.. He hasn't realized he can't rap yet.. He's going to be terribly disappointed..

Since when are certain types of music restricted to certain races? Let the Japanese do what they want.

And why can't their be an Asian Santa Claus? There is no Santa, so whoever is believing in him can make him any race he wants. Deal with it.
 
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i've heard japanese rap before, this is so ridiculous. It doesn't even sound good. And japanese people being gangsta? No.. i don't think so. I accept mexicans, south americans, and others rapping, but people who don't seem to have constant crime waves, i don't like their rap. thus this reminds me, didn't japanese people act like mc hammer back in the day? i see it as copying americans.
 
King of Tokyo said:
So now Asians aren't allowed to Rap? Oh dear, Someone better tell Jin.. He hasn't realized he can't rap yet.. He's going to be terribly disappointed..

Since when are certain types of music restricted to certain races? Let the Japanese do what they want.

And why can't their be an Asian Santa Claus? There is no Santa, so whoever is believing in him can make him any race he wants. Deal with it.

An Asian boy rapping is about as ridiculous as Vanilla Ice trying to make a come back.
 
december said:
An Asian boy rapping is about as ridiculous as Vanilla Ice trying to make a come back.

Well, seeing as I clearly cannot congratulate you on your impressive intelligence, I'll congratulate you on not backing down from your blatantly discriminatory view.

***.
 
Maybe we should congratulate him on his outstanding selection of vocabulary ..?
 
Suki-Yaki said:
Maybe we should congratulate him on his outstanding selection of vocabulary ..?

HER!!

I'm a woman, thank you. :-)

King of Tokyo said:
Well, seeing as I clearly cannot congratulate you on your impressive intelligence, I'll congratulate you on not backing down from your blatantly discriminatory view.

***.

It's quite funny how people are so sensitive that they get all pissed cause someone disagrees with them.

To anyone here that likes Japanese rap - Yippie. It's your right to like it. But that doesn't mean I have to like it. These forums are here for people to state their opinion and I stated mine. And I'll state it again:

Asian boys rapping is a ridiculous notion. It's just all wrong. To me, it doesn't sound right and it's not something I would support or listen to. In fact, I think Japanese rap is stupid and Asian "wannabe" hiphop boys are not cool in my opinion. Though there was this one guy.... But getting back to the point, I do have certain prejudices and that does affect my opinion on certain issues - such as Japanese rap.

It's my opinion. So, deal with it because the whole world doesn't worship everything that Japan spits out. It's a fact of life and it's rather immature to result to insults just because someone disagrees with YOUR opinion.

How's that for a vocabulary?

Have a nice day. :p
 
december said:
It's quite funny how people are so sensitive that they get all pissed cause someone disagrees with them.

To anyone here that likes Japanese rap - Yippie. It's your right to like it. But that doesn't mean I have to like it. These forums are here for people to state their opinion and I stated mine. And I'll state it again:

Who said I even liked J-Rap, I am not really a big fan of it, although some does have good beats, most of it I have heard I only mildly took an interest to.

december said:
Asian boys rapping is a ridiculous notion. It's just all wrong. To me, it doesn't sound right and it's not something I would support or listen to. In fact, I think Japanese rap is stupid and Asian "wannabe" hiphop boys are not cool in my opinion. Though there was this one guy.... But getting back to the point, I do have certain prejudices and that does affect my opinion on certain issues - such as Japanese rap.

That is simply ignorant discrimination. I don't really need to say anything more because you basically said what I would have said about you. Your ignorance is astounding. Just because I am not a huge fan of J-Rap doesn't mean I would actually insult it and claim that Asians shouldn't even be rappers. They are allowed to do any type of music they like, and it is good for Japan because it gives variety, so you don't have to like what someone else does. You have shown and admitted to your blatant prejudice, and that says enough about you.

december said:
It's my opinion. So, deal with it because the whole world doesn't worship everything that Japan spits out. It's a fact of life and it's rather immature to result to insults just because someone disagrees with YOUR opinion.

How's that for a vocabulary?

Have a nice day. :p

I don't like everything Japan spits out, as I have said, but I am still not an a**hole enough to say that they shouldn't be able to "spit out" certain things. I said it once and I'll say it again:

***.
 
King of Tokyo said:
Who said I even liked J-Rap, I am not really a big fan of it, although some does have good beats, most of it I have heard I only mildly took an interest to.


I didn't specifically say you - I said: To anyone that likes Japanese rap...

King of Tokyo said:
That is simply ignorant discrimination. I don't really need to say anything more because you basically said what I would have said about you. Your ignorance is astounding. Just because I am not a huge fan of J-Rap doesn't mean I would actually insult it and claim that Asians shouldn't even be rappers. They are allowed to do any type of music they like, and it is good for Japan because it gives variety, so you don't have to like what someone else does. You have shown and admitted to your blatant prejudice, and that says enough about you.

First and foremost, since when has it been ignorant discrimination to not like something? There are Asian females who won't date white males just because they're not Asian. Isn't that ignorant discrimination? Or does it only apply when someone thinks Asian rappers are ridiculous? Would it make a really big difference if I said all rap is ridiculous instead of just singling out the topic of this thread, which happens to be Japanese rap....?

I didn't say that Asians shouldn't or couldn't be rappers. I said it was ridiculous, wrong, and that I wouldn't support it. Point out where I specifically said, "Asians shouldn't be allowed to rap." What? Did you think I meant Asians shouldn't be allowed to rap because I said it's wrong? I also think it's wrong for a parent to have a child out without shoes on but I'm not out there screaming for parents to stop taking their children out without shoes on their feet. Why? Because its their choice. Just like it's an Asian's boy choice to rap. But will I support it? No, I won't. But by no means does that mean an Asian boy shouldn't be allowed to do as he pleases. That's what freedom is all about - the right for people to do as they please as long as no one else is harmed and the right for people to either accept it or not accept it.

You read a bit too deeply into my statements and took it far too personally. And why you picked my statement, I really don't know cause I wasn't the only one that stated Japanese rap as being ridiculous. But really, I don't care. All the arguement in the world won't change my opinion. It's just pointless debate and obviously, you just want to argue a point which in my opinion doesn't even exist.

You think what you want and I'll think what I want. In case you didn't know, it's called "Difference of Opinion." And believe or not, not everyone thinks and feel the same as you do. I know it's hard to digest but once you remember that not everybody is you and not everybody was raised as you and not everybody developed the sames views and morals as you... well, you get along with a lot more people and pointless arguements like this are avoided. So, one last time, you think what you want. And I'll think what I want.

King of Tokyo said:
I don't like everything Japan spits out, as I have said, but I am still not an a**hole enough to say that they shouldn't be able to "spit out" certain things. I said it once and I'll say it again:

***.

And again, I speak of people who can't accept others opinions and result to petty insults.

Have a really nice day. :p
 
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