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I have been watching the Syrian revolution since it started, The Syrian revolution exposed Iran and the United Nations, For the first time since the mongol invasion and Crusades we are witnessing a war that the words can't describe, A War full of haterd, full of blood lust, Iran has finally removed the mask off the ugly face, A nation is being invaded, Poeple being slaughtered, Men Women & babies being murdered like sheeps while the world is watching without any sense of responsibility.

Iran, After America gave them Iraq as a gift, Started a dirty war on Muslims with direct communist support and indirect Western support.
Weapons from all types, Ammo, Soldiers, plans from Iran, Russia, China, North Korea etc.
Shia Militia from Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and Yemen, Plus All Alawis in Syria are fighting one of the most dirty war ever.

80,194 civilian victims 1400 of them are Palestinians [ Recorded which means more unrecorded ]
Unknown number of injured persons
5.3 Million IDPs [ Internally Diplaced persons ]
Lost persons [ Unknown, Since the revolution started until July 2012 is 220.000 ]
More than 200.000 Prisioners
Unknown number of destroyed/damaged houses and buildings
Destruction is worse than nuclear bomb.

Iran givernment could not hide their plan, They said that After Syria they will invade Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Oman and Yemen.
Iraqi and Lebanese Hizbullah said same, They said their target is Mecca and Madinah !

Until this moment i can't believe my eyes, Whyall this haterd ?
Not Mongol nor Crusaders did like what those people do, I watched a video yesturday for a Syrian man being stabbed and his parts being removed one after another by Assad's militia, It was the most horrible and barbaric thing i have ever seen in my life.

Jabhat al-Nusra rushed to Syria to save Syrians, Then America and the United Nations added the group to Terrorism List Whle the Assad and his Militia are still recognized as a political system !

What do you think about this war ?
- Iran position.
- Iraq position ( Iraqi dictator is supporting the Assad with everything ).
- Russian and Chinese position.
- UN position.
- The United States position.
- Your position from Jabhat al-Nusra.
- Your position from The Syrian Free Army.

Regards
 
Hezam, I have been traveling in Syria three times, and it makes my heart bleed to see the country in shambles, its people and heritage literally obliterated. It's a knee-jerk reflex to support those obviously defending democracy and freedom and opposing tyranny, but after two years of butchery I am no longer certain who's on which side. While the world is perturbed by Iran's and Hizbollah's involvement in the conflict I have my doubts in regard to the Syrian Free Army.

What do they stand for? How far have they been infiltrated by radical forces such as the Jabhat al-Nusra? What do the Syrian people actually want? Is there any faction with aims beyond confessional barriers?
 
thomas said:
Hezam, I have been traveling in Syria three times, and it makes my heart bleed to see the country in shambles, its people and heritage literally obliterated. It's a knee-jerk reflex to support the fraction that's obviously defending democracy and freedom and opposing tyranny, but after two years of butchery I am no longer certain who's on which side. While the world is perturbed by Iran's and Hizbollah's involvement in the conflict I have my doubts in regard to the Syrian Free Army.

What do they stand for? How far have they been infiltrated by radical forces such as the Jabhat al-Nusra? What do the Syrian people actually want? Is there any faction with aims beyond confessional barriers?
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- The Free Syrian Army were part of Assad's amry but after what they saw and how the leaders order them to shoot the protesters and bomb the houses, many soldiers chose to stand against the Assad, The Free Syrian Army first goal is to protect the protesters who wanted freedom and democracy.
- The Free Syrian Army asked for help from the UN and Arab, No one helped them at all but a little help from Turkey, They needed help to stop the mass murder but the UN did not act. After several months The Mujahideen came to rescue the Syrians and the Free Syrian army accepted the help ( why not ? ).
And for information, The Free Syrian army is working separately from Jabhat al-Nusra and the other groups.
The Syrian people wanted Freedom, For 40 years they been under one of the worst barbaric dictatorship in the world, The people could not stand a life with fear, The City Hamah in 1982 revolved against the Assad's father then he destroyed the city and killed all the people in it ( more than 35.000 civilian ).
- Since the revolution started until few months ago the protesters been calling "No Sunni No Alawi, We are all Syrians" but sadly the Alawis stood with Assad and the created a militia, The Militia commited many massacres, Then Hizbullah entered Syria along with Iraq,Irani,Pakistani, Yemeni Shia and they started cleaning the cities and the villages from the Sunni people, I have seen too many videos for men, women and babies slaughtered by knives like sheeps, Massacres that the toughest person wouldn't stand watching them.

I can assure you that Muslims now are 100% with Jabhat al-Nusra, I heard about thousands of Saudi men went to Syria to join Jabhat al-Nusra including hundreds of Europeans & Americans who joined Jabhat al-Nusra too.
Jabhat al-Nusra in Arabic means ( The Rescue Front ).

Iran has been creating chao in Arab world since the Khomeini revolution in Iran, He made a plan to take over Arab world starting with Iraq then Syria & Lebanon then Jordan then Arab Gulf countries, Morrocco just kicked out the Iranian ambassador because they found out that Iran is planning to occupy Strait of Gibraltar, Yemen also warned Iran because of the Houthis movement in the North and their plan to occupy Bab-el-Mandeb strait.
Iran is also threatened many times to close the Strait of Hormuz !
The Iranian regime is the craziest one i have ever seen...

I'm not sure how much you know about the conflict between the Khomieni system and Muslims, If you need further informations please let me know.

P.S If there is any Iranian reading this thread You are welcome to comment.
 
Americans are afraid of supporting the wrong people in Syria. We remember how we did that exact thing when Afghanis were fighting the Soviets. We gave weapons to the people who later committed the 9/11 mass murder. Well, thank you very much.

We've too often supported the wrong people: The Congo, Iran, Saddam Hussein, and the new government of Iraq. Perhaps we should just stop the meddling in other nations' affairs.

But why aren't the other Arab states doing more to help the victims? This is your region of the world, so there is more justification for you to intervene about neighbors who are victimized.
 
RolandtheHeadless said:
Americans are afraid of supporting the wrong people in Syria. We remember how we did that exact thing when Afghanis were fighting the Soviets. We gave weapons to the people who later committed the 9/11 mass murder. Well, thank you very much.
We've too often supported the wrong people: The Congo, Iran, Saddam Hussein, and the new government of Iraq. Perhaps we should just stop the meddling in other nations' affairs.
But why aren't the other Arab states doing more to help the victims? This is your region of the world, so there is more justification for you to intervene about neighbors who are victimized.
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This is just an excuse, What do you mean by the Wrong people ? You could say " The wrong group" not the wrong people !!
You have to differ between people and groups, People and system.
America did not give Saudi gov the green light to let Saudi people support Syrians, What do you call this ?
From my city, i heard that one thousand volunteers went to Syria to support and to defend Syrians, Saudi government said that they will not be allowed to back home !
ALso European/American Volunteers will not be able to return to their countries.. !
If America want to stop middling then you know there is a very big criminal agent in the middle east that America should stop supporting.

Anyway, the Syrian revolution exposed the very ugly face of the UN and the Free world.
 
During the Israeli War on Lebanon in 2006 All Arab supported Hizbullah, The Syrians who Hizbullah is killing now they supported Hizbullah soldiers, They hosted them in their houses, They shared the food with Hizbullah's soldiers, We prayed for Hizbullah and we asked God to make Hizbullah win.
The Syrians who hosted Hizbullah's soldiers are now being slaughterd by Hizbullah's soldiers, The Syrians houses are being bombed and destroyed on the thier heads !
Hizbullah betrayed us and they chose to their weapons against us, Now Hizbullah's soldiers are being killed everywhere in Syria by the Mujahideen, Thousands of Muslims moved to Syria to show Hizbullah the Nightmares that they never seen before.
It's true that Syrians are in pain, But in the other hand It's going to be the End for Iran and it's emperial plan.
Russia did not learn the lesson from Afghanistan and Chechnya, And instead of hundreds of Mujahideen in Chechnya Russia created hundreds of thousands in many places.

This War on Syrian people teachs us that if you worry about what the UN will say you will loose, And it apprears that joining Jabhat al-Nusra is our Best and Only choice.
Jabhat al-Nusra are the true fighters, The true men, they help without asking anything in return, They sacrifice their souls for a Justice case, They showed us that complaining to the UN or the Hypocrite world will not grant you victory, It will make you only a slave to someone else.
So Fighting for your self and defending your Home with your own hands is the only way to get your rights back.
 
RolandtheHeadless said:
The UN won't act. Russia and China both sit on the Security Council, and have vetoes over UN action.
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Yeah that's why there is a Legal terrorism, Like targeting the Russian/Chinese military bases and government institutions in their soil.
 
No, I think Obama really will arm the Syrian rebels, and maybe provide air cover too. It's on all the news channels here today. Obama will look like a fool if he does nothing now.

Some might say a bigger fool. . . .
 
Today News,
Thousands of Volunteers from Arab countries are on the way to Syria, More from Indonesia and Pakistan.

Obama said the weapons will not include heavy weapons and Man-portable air-defense ! Can you imagine a man with a gun against a Tank or aircraft ?
Do you know what the Syrians had to do ?
Look :
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They also had to make their own Canons :
Hell Canon V3
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Jihad has not declared like this since the Soviet Invasion in Afghanistan.
 
I don't think the Obama administration is going to do anything, Hezam. I know it should. I hope it will, but there is this lurking fear that they are going to stay out of this conflict as it might be deemed to not be beneficial to the United States. They should have gotten involved by now if they were going to do anything. I'm disgusted by my country and it's government. This is horrific. :/
 
Nuala said:
I don't think the Obama administration is going to do anything, Hezam. I know it should. I hope it will, but there is this lurking fear that they are going to stay out of this conflict as it might be deemed to not be beneficial to the United States. They should have gotten involved by now if they were going to do anything. I'm disgusted by my country and it's government. This is horrific. :/
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Honestly it's not the US problem to deal with, Arabs suck, The turn will come to all Arabs soon, It's more disgusting to see Arabs ( including me ) doing nothing to the Syrians, our governments won't let us donate to Syrians.
 
Hezam said:
Honestly it's not the US problem to deal with, Arabs suck, The turn will come to all Arabs soon, It's more disgusting to see Arabs ( including me ) doing nothing to the Syrians, our governments won't let us donate to Syrians.
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You're right, it isn't the US's problem. It's just so assumed that they must get involved, you know? Imperialism is awful like that. It's hard to shake from your mind at times.
 
Salam, just a brief intro. I myself am a Lebanese Sunni, and I have family scattered about Asia (Japan, China, UAE, Saudi Arabia) as well as quite a few in Syria, my second-uncle was taken hostage by the Syrian Government and I have very heavy feelings on this topic. So let's begin shall we?

- Iran position: Besides Israel, I find Iran the mother of problems in West Asia, the Syrian government is no more than Iranian puppets.
- Iraq position ( Iraqi dictator is supporting the Assad with everything ): Personally, Iraq is in no position for war negotiations, they need to focus on rebuilding, nothing else.
- Russian and Chinese position: Russia and China are like Iran's big brothers, they will support Iran no matter what.
- UN position: With Russia and China supporting Iran, the UN won't be of much help.
- The United States position: Send Aid, thousands are dying yet no action is being taken. Yet this isn't necessarily the U.S' business, that ideology is hard to swallow...
- Your position from Jabhat al-Nusra: ---
- Your position from The Syrian Free Army: Best of luck to them, I just wish they could be given more support but the sad truth is that they cannot, the countries around them need to worry about themselves at the current moment...
 
So to summarize, if the U.S. gets involved in a foreign conflict such as those raging in the Middle East, they are "imperialistic." If the U.S. does not get involved, it is because they don't see a benefit for themselves, and are choosing to be selfish. Interesting.
 
alecgraham said:
So to summarize, if the U.S. gets involved in a foreign conflict such as those raging in the Middle East, they are "imperialistic." If the U.S. does not get involved, it is because they don't see a benefit for themselves, and are choosing to be selfish. Interesting.
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I am confused as to who or what your are summarizing.
 
The aspect of US (lack of) involvement in Syria in the conversation so far.
I was being sarcastic.
 
China has been attacted by Muslim terrorism recently. Why do you do this to us.
You should know these minorities have been living in China peacefully for quite a long time even before they became muslim.
Now of them make west of China begin to become dangerous. should you responsible for this? If not, who should.
Just ask.
By the way, it seems there are 3 kinds of Muslim in China. One is Iran style, safe. Another one call themselves Jews with blue hat, safe. Third kind, likes to turn themselves into bombs, really dangerous.
 
dsvlee said:
China has been attacted by Muslim terrorism recently. Why do you do this to us.
You should know these minorities have been living in China peacefully for quite a long time even before they became muslim.
Now of them make west of China begin to become dangerous. should you responsible for this? If not, who should.
Just ask.
By the way, it seems there are 3 kinds of Muslim in China. One is Iran style, safe. Another one call themselves Jews with blue hat, safe. Third kind, likes to turn themselves into bombs, really dangerous.
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And I really cannot see different between Muslims. Who can teach me. Even two years ago I believe Muslim are a special kind of great human cultures. But lask week, 10 muslim terrorists killed 16 uygurs ,2 mongolians ,2 Hui ppl and 4 han ppl in China. This totally changed my opinion about Muslim. That is really horrible.
 
dsvlee said:
And I really cannot see different between Muslims. Who can teach me. Even two years ago I believe Muslim are a special kind of great human cultures. But lask week, 10 muslim terrorists killed 16 uygurs ,2 mongolians ,2 Hui ppl and 4 han ppl in China. This totally changed my opinion about Muslim. That is really horrible.
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The Chinese government reported that a police station and government building was attacked. Sorry, but that is NOT terrorism. That is people rising up against the government. And they did not do it because they are Muslim. They did it because the Chinese government wont take its grubby paws off them.

When people don't want to be your friend any more, do you beat them to a pulp and tell them they cannot leave? Now mind you, I am well aware of that sort of stupidity even by my own country. But its still stupid. You try and force people to stay in any sort of partnership arrangement, and its not a partnership, its slavery. Places with Uyghur majorities that want to leave China should be free to go. Anything else is like beating your wife to prevent a divorce. Its nuts and horribly selfish.

Besides, there are 1.5 BILLION Muslims in the world and only 0.5 percent of them are ethnic Uyghur Muslims in China. It was only 17 of them behind that attack.

If that changed your mind about Muslims, I wonder what you think about the Chinese. Have you ever seen this? China's massacre in Tibet. Shooting at Tibetan pilgrims - YouTube

Its a video of chicken turd Chinese snipers shooting unarmed pilgrims heading to Tibet. Have you any concept of the level of depravity and cowardice that takes?? Its a far cry from attacking the police who oppress you.
 
alecgraham said:
If you think "those that call themselves Jews with blue hat" are one kind of Muslim, you might be unteachable at this point.
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The guy thinks Japanese are Nazis, and has stated so many times. Not worth the trouble.
 
dsvlee said:
China has been attacted by Muslim terrorism recently. Why do you do this to us.
You should know these minorities have been living in China peacefully for quite a long time even before they became muslim.
Now of them make west of China begin to become dangerous. should you responsible for this? If not, who should.
Just ask.
By the way, it seems there are 3 kinds of Muslim in China. One is Iran style, safe. Another one call themselves Jews with blue hat, safe. Third kind, likes to turn themselves into bombs, really dangerous.
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If you want to discuss East Turkistan issue make another thread.
 

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