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The Langage departments need to make language acquision more level, and this game of golf handicaps are only put on the native speakers, and Nikkeijin. This I feel is not good enough.
Mikawa, so how many Nikkei did you beat out in your class? You must have had a tough time in a class that has all Japanese. But I doubt a Japanese majoring in Japanese would not get much respect. You know the jump they make from second to third year really messed me up as there should be two grades or so in between. When I see that, I wonder to myself if these programs are designed for the Japanese or Nikkei students who want to take courses in their own mother tounge rather than lets say study french. I see many Japanese coming in as first year students taking Japanese at the third year level if they speak Japanese. Many begin by knowing less Kanji, but their vocabularies are often exceptional. I have heard many times, when this is the case, that because they are only needing to work their kanji and learn the terminology for grammar (In english and Japanese) the teachers have told them to go to the bookstore and learn the Kanji on their own time and catch up the 2 years that we had to learn. Amazingly, by the end of the term, most have not only caught up, but write kanji more naturally than I could after 7 years (counting high school).In the classes I took, everyone was treated the same. There were no nikkei in my classes; everyone was Japanese except for myself. I'm sure you know my opinion of using the gaijin card.This would never have worked anywhere I have worked.
I see you strive for mediocrity. Godspeed, sir!
Morever me,i haven't known yet 'bout kanji letter,i've just known 9 kanji letters,,ha..ha..i've been joining japanese course and i've already learned 'bout hiragana and katakana and will move kanji in the next level.If "knowing kanji" means to know their meanings - I know about 300-400.
But if you ask me about kanji readings - muuuuch less.
About stroke order and ability to write - only a few.
I know and recognize no kanji. And I wish to keep it that way. Hiragana first.
Of course, I'll have to learn some kanji eventually...but seriously. 40,000 useless symbols that you could easily write in hiragana with a few more strokes? Lazy kanji-makers.
About the same for me. I'm getting there....Maybe... 50? Not really sure.