For whom is it easier to live in Japan; foreigners or Japanese?
foreigners ..
That's a pretty general statement. Are they actually living better lives because they are non-Japanese living in Japan? Or would their skills and connections earn them a comfortable existence anywhere in the world they could practice their trade?tokapi said:Yea,my Americanized Japanese language exchange partner thought so too as he explained to me that ( exclude struggling gaijin English-teachers ) legal resident foreigners of Western-background live better than average local middle-class & working-class Japanese.
This style of salary has nothing to do with race or geography--it's about choice of employer.JerseyBoy said:A typical Japanese are paid by the salary scale pegged at his/her age.
Nowhere. Overall the question is too subjective to have an objective response. Others may feel differently, however, and the question is undoubtely an interesting piece of "lateral thinking" in a way.
foreigners..
they have many options.
they can use a gaijin card
Professional foreign nationals ( of certain ethnic background & specific trade ) are not subject to this type of work lifestyle,right ?!
If one works in a Japanese company one is subject to the same stresses as Japanese... probably worse.
anyway,why did you chose it in Japan such like a racist country as you said?
and you hava an option that you go home if you dont like it.
i can say it easier while you are complaining
If one works in a Japanese company one is subject to the same stresses as Japanese... probably worse.
With the question of whether it is easier for foreigners to live in a country like Japan, are we talking about people who live there on long term holidays or people that live there as full citizens? 'Cos i think this is an important factor to take into consideration when answering the question (if it can be done so to any extent).
Is this more of a question of "are foreigners happier living in Japan than Japanese?"? Such a question could never be answered.
Happiness aside, i would imagine its easier for Japanese to live in Japan simply because they are probably less likely to encounter barriers in their day-to-day lives like language and cultural problems, and they are probably more likely to be accepted in general and not made to feel like an outsider etc.
As usual, I disagree 100%.foreigners..
they have many options.
they can use a gaijin card
I would be fully willing to argue, if I really had the time to properly do so, that it is easier for Japanese nationals to live in Japan than it is for non-Japanese nationals.
My reason for arguing such is a simple demographical cross-section taken by random choice over the entire national geographical boundry.
To refute my conclusion, one will have to refute the applicable necessity of the definition of 'easy' that I have chosen to appeal to in my working premise.
Also, one would have to refute the conclusion I have arrived at regarding what state is most practically determinably as that of 'foreigner.'
That being the case, there is no room for discussion of cultural differences of any kind.
Perhaps Chit Chat & Miscellaneous might have been the better choice of location?
Japanese know the language and customs. They are used to the life of "gaman", "honne" & "tatemae", etc. Whether they like them is moot. Just because they are used to these things automatically makes life easier for them than for foreigners.
Of corse they don't want to deal with these factors ,but as Glenski said, they are better equipped to deal with them than a foreigner, which brings us back to the original question that it is harder for foreigners to live here.Is that true? I seem to often run into dissatisfied Japanese who wish they didn't have to deal with these factors. Of course I also run into their alter egos, people who couldn't even envision living anywhere else and can't fathom a Japanese national preferring to live somewhere besides Japan.
Furthermore, foreigners can learn the language and the customs of Japan, so I'm not sure that would make living in Japan much easier for Japanese.
I would be fully willing to argue, if I really had the time to properly do so, that it is easier for Japanese nationals to live in Japan than it is for non-Japanese nationals.
My reason for arguing such is a simple demographical cross-section taken by random choice over the entire national geographical boundry. To refute my conclusion, one will have to refute the applicable necessity of the definition of 'easy' that I have chosen to appeal to in my working premise. Also, one would have to refute the conclusion I have arrived at regarding what state is most practically determinably as that of 'foreigner.'
To this, I respond with a strong, 'Please do!' So far you have only taken 'pot shots' from a somewhat disengauged postition in an evident attempt to weaken others' comments.
My oppinion is that it is a lot harder for a foreigners to live here long term than a Japanese. On the other hand the short term foreigners could have it easier due to the fact that they know they will be going back to where they come from and not have to worry about their long term future.
As said, I was looking for some discussion or opinions offered first before rolling out my 'grand' theory. Don't worry, it will be forthcoming.