Do you speak Japanese?
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Yusupov
ﾂ”ﾂ静や?堋｢窶堋ｱ窶堙娯?ｹﾃｳ窶堙娯?ｰﾂｺﾂ”
- 8 Feb 2007
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話せることは話せるんですがまだまだだね。もっと練習した方がいいと思うよ。でも、練習すると人がいないん。
I speak a little Japanese, but there really isn't anyone to practice with so I'm not as good as I'd like to be obviously. I'm taking a language course at school right now though so hopefully that will help remedy the problem somewhat.
I speak a little Japanese, but there really isn't anyone to practice with so I'm not as good as I'd like to be obviously. I'm taking a language course at school right now though so hopefully that will help remedy the problem somewhat.
bexchurnside
Kouhai
- 5 Dec 2006
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Deborah, it seems tough to us, many of having BA's in Japanese couldn't best them, if we even tried. If these folks go to cram school and work their best in their mother tougue vs us, well, you can guess. But then, you go to Japan, and see that these so called English teachers have a terrible command of the English language. I know many high school students would draw circles over them. So the same is simply reversed. They would think what are we doing with an entire BA with less than what the Japanese get for their minimum educational requirement. These kids have it in their bones to learn.
You know, many envy our English skills that are recongized worldwide. Japanese on the other hand is pretty much useless outside of either Japan or in situations outside of Japan, outside of Japanese corporate environment.
Even in Sao Paulo or Hawai'i, the Nikkeijin do speak English adequately enough that we really don't need to learn Japanese to get around.
The Japanese also do not ever expect us to try taking them on in the language sparing game. I talk here in competitive terms, as that is their way of thinking. Only the Kikokushijo is made to play catch up, and in some cases, the Nikkeijin who have citizenship. Many of them do go through the daunting task of playing catch up, but we need not envy. My boyfriend said that he was forced into the game where he is made to learn to not get socially outcasted, and have a good job. And many of them learn Japanese out of necessity and duty, and not out of interest like many of us do, choosing this culture. Theirs being choiceless, or almost choiceless makes the task while apparently easier to do than for us, less enjoyable, with the love of it more often than not, absent. When your hair is strawberry blond like mine, even slightly unnatural but so so well spoken Japanese is only applauded by them.
So let them be, and we do what we do in our own category.
jackkrone
後輩
- 25 Feb 2007
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i'd like to learn more Japanese, the kanji is not a big problem for me, i just can not understand the katakana well currently. Mastered hiragana already, i'd like to learn more and more.
Luckily i have a Japanese teacher in Shanghai now, she comes from Saitama.
I found it's easy for me to learn negative words when i initially approached a foreign languages.I learnt Bakanasalu,kuso,chikuchoo,hentai,usou,chibi,etc
Who has better ideas to master Japanese? I'd like to share with you.
Luckily i have a Japanese teacher in Shanghai now, she comes from Saitama.
I found it's easy for me to learn negative words when i initially approached a foreign languages.I learnt Bakanasalu,kuso,chikuchoo,hentai,usou,chibi,etc
Who has better ideas to master Japanese? I'd like to share with you.
nobody to practice with. so even i know the basic grammar structures, probably i will no be able to go to higher level 
just like jackkrone, i mastered hiragana, but i dont understand the rules for katakana. the only problem for learning the kanji and vocabulary is memory matter. can't remember things that fast. must practice everyday. but once again, nobody to practice with so i won't know if i'm making mistakes :?
just like jackkrone, i mastered hiragana, but i dont understand the rules for katakana. the only problem for learning the kanji and vocabulary is memory matter. can't remember things that fast. must practice everyday. but once again, nobody to practice with so i won't know if i'm making mistakes :?
YinginSui
後輩
- 6 Mar 2007
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I do not know much of the words, to tell anyone here the truth. It's a fact that I pick up some words and kanji from friends in Nihon, but I never really learned much of the grammar, but indeed relying on replacing words in sentences I somehow memorize when my Japanese friends are talking in their native tongue. I'd love to learn Japanese and go to Japan one day, as well as learn some from several Japanese people here. ^.^
Ebu Huzeyfe
Noone is perfect!
- 11 Apr 2006
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I desire to learn at least a basic Japanese so much. It seems no way at the moment. I have some books and dictionaries but need to practice with some Japanese through corresponding.
- 7 Feb 2007
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Hi how you guys doing. I desire to improve my japanese conversation skills. I have sub par lvl 4 jplt understanding of grammar, therefore I failed the test by 5%. Plan to take it again this year so if anyone wants to just shot grammar points, vocabulary, questions or just conversation I'm game. Oh and my roma-ji (romanized japanese) is not that great. Ganbatte kudasai.
Tokyofan25
先輩
- 19 Mar 2007
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just a few basic words,that's all
kiedistidus
先輩
- 24 May 2007
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i want to learn japanese but it looks so hard im going next year and i dont want to be a lost tourist
Goldiegirl
先輩
- 10 Aug 2006
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Beginner even sounds to advanced for me! I know some simple phrases. I know how to spell my last name as well. That's about it. I am learning though. 
82riceballs
後輩
- 10 May 2007
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i'm a so/so person. my grandparents speak japanese and claim that my japanese is horrible, but i think i'm improving now that i'm taking lessons from an awesome teacher. i might get a 80% on jlpt 4 test if i'm lucky
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i'm a so/so person. my grandparents speak japanese and claim that my japanese is horrible, but i think i'm improving now that i'm taking lessons from an awesome teacher. i might get a 80% on jlpt 4 test if i'm lucky
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Charles Barkley
TNT Basketball Analyst
- 14 Jun 2007
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Yeah, I thought the same thing. But when you consider that so many of the people who use this site do not live in Japan and are more interested in the culture than serious study, you can see why the poll is heavily weighted towards beginner levels.
I would categorize a low pass of JLPT 3 as lower intermediate. A very high pass as middle intermediate. A just fail of JLPT 2 as high intermediate. And a pass of JLPT 2 as the first step to advanced.
But of course its an entirely arbitrary category.
- 15 Mar 2002
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The phenomenon known as "the soft bigotry of low expectations". Goes hand-in-hand with the study of the Japanese language.
epigene
相変わらず不束者です
- 10 Nov 2004
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I agree with Mike about how the Levels are assessed, at least in this thread. (Can't someone do something about how the levels are described?)
In terms of functionality and practical usage in the native Japanese-speaking environment, I think Level 3 and lower are regarded rudimentary. Level 2 is basic language usage (maybe intermediate, if the word has to be used), and Level 1 is "nearest to native" but not native level YET (unless you score near-perfect or perfect)...
- 19 May 2007
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I don't consider level 1 near native either, there far more to learn after attaining your level one.I agree with Mike about how the Levels are assessed, at least in this thread. (Can't someone do something about how the levels are described?)
In terms of functionality and practical usage in the native Japanese-speaking environment, I think Level 3 and lower are regarded rudimentary. Level 2 is basic language usage (maybe intermediate, if the word has to be used), and Level 1 is "nearest to native" but not native level YET (unless you score near-perfect or perfect)...
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HarajukuxBoy
後輩
- 16 Sep 2007
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Well right now,I'm using "Japanese for busy people Volume:I" and Im like 1/4 of the way through that book,and Im still learning my hiragana and katakana.But I got most of the basics down.
If you ask me all of those JLPT levels there are one too high. There's no way JLPT1 level could be considered native level in my opinion. I didn't know how to answer the poll because I've passed 1, but at most I would just about consider myself at advanced level which is marked as only 2.
