Dir en grey
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Nana007
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Popularity Of Dir en Grey In Japan
This is a conversation I had about 6 months with somebody. At my school there was this Japanese exchange student there and we were having a conversation about J-Rock, and while talking I mentioned Dir en Grey and she was like "Oh, you like them?" and she told me that she was never really a fan, but that they are ok at times, but that in Japan they really aren't that popular or even well known. And that most people stopped liking them when they changed their image.
I'm not sure if this is true or not, and I know that they still are doing good cause WTD did pretty good. But really from someone who knows what is the status of their popularity in Japan. Also Miyavi too (although this should be posted in the Miyavi thread). She said that Miyavi was like a one hit wonder sort of ( I know THAT is not true)
This is a conversation I had about 6 months with somebody. At my school there was this Japanese exchange student there and we were having a conversation about J-Rock, and while talking I mentioned Dir en Grey and she was like "Oh, you like them?" and she told me that she was never really a fan, but that they are ok at times, but that in Japan they really aren't that popular or even well known. And that most people stopped liking them when they changed their image.
I'm not sure if this is true or not, and I know that they still are doing good cause WTD did pretty good. But really from someone who knows what is the status of their popularity in Japan. Also Miyavi too (although this should be posted in the Miyavi thread). She said that Miyavi was like a one hit wonder sort of ( I know THAT is not true)
Kinsao
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- 8 May 2005
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Well, Furan said that when she went to Japan and talked about music to people, Dir en grey were not so well known. More people had heard of Kagrra, *dances the love Kagrra, dance* 
*coughcoughsorry*
My Japanese ex had never heard of Dir en grey until he met me
and although he'd heard of Malice Mizer and Kagrra, (vaguely ) he did point out to me that none of the bands I was into weren't mainstream in Japan and weren't especially well known...... with the exception of Gackt. 
*coughcoughsorry* My Japanese ex had never heard of Dir en grey until he met me
and although he'd heard of Malice Mizer and Kagrra, (vaguely ) he did point out to me that none of the bands I was into weren't mainstream in Japan and weren't especially well known...... with the exception of Gackt.
Nana007
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I know that most Visual Kei is underground. So not alot of people will know of it. And I did know that Dir en Grey was sort of obscure, but not that much. But to say they aren't that well known when they do pretty good on the oricon charts is baffling.
I know here in the U.S.A, even if you dont like a band, if they make it anywhere near the top 20 list, you will here of them like alot, until they either make it BIG or fade into obscurity. And it baffles me, that even if you dont like Dir en Grey or any other band, how even with they years they have and the top 10 singles they have people dont know them.
And on a side note go Kagrra, *joins you in Kagrra, dance*
. Become extra popular so that you can get enough american fans to come here.
I know here in the U.S.A, even if you dont like a band, if they make it anywhere near the top 20 list, you will here of them like alot, until they either make it BIG or fade into obscurity. And it baffles me, that even if you dont like Dir en Grey or any other band, how even with they years they have and the top 10 singles they have people dont know them.
And on a side note go Kagrra, *joins you in Kagrra, dance*
. Become extra popular so that you can get enough american fans to come here.
Nana007
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But the point I really wanted to know *coughKagrra,gotmeoftopiccough* is are they loosing fans, in Japan. We already know the split between western fans, but was it really bad in Japan. Cause my friend she basically said its not cool to listen to Dir en Grey anymore. (I dont care about being cool I'm already not cool cause I listen to J-Rock). And I know what she said about the Miyavi being a one hit wonder is not true because since signing with universal he's been getting even more fans in the U.S and . (I even got my bestfriend who used to say That's a Girl to listen to him, although he still grumbles about his looks)
juvi
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- 8 Jun 2005
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I think it's wrong not to like a band or stop liking a band because they changed their image. You should like a band because of their music and not their style. That's my opinion! :box: I hope it's not true what you guys are telling about Dirus suport in Japan. I LOVE DIRU
Placebo
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- 6 Dec 2005
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For an unknown band its amazing that they have fans all around the world and even play shows in germany.
I have never seen a band that keeps the same sound and look. Sometimes bands do lose fans i.e Korn but thats just because they changed their sound for the worse. Even though DEG sound and look is drastically diffrent from their early days their new sound and lyrics are still awesome and I hope they stay around for another 10 years.
As for my fav member I like them all they are all special and cute in their own way.
I have never seen a band that keeps the same sound and look. Sometimes bands do lose fans i.e Korn but thats just because they changed their sound for the worse. Even though DEG sound and look is drastically diffrent from their early days their new sound and lyrics are still awesome and I hope they stay around for another 10 years.
As for my fav member I like them all they are all special and cute in their own way.
Nana007
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Yea but what I hear Japanese fangirls can be rabid, even more so than the west. I mean Gackt divorced his wife because the fans were hackling her so much. Does anyone remember when DIE changed his hair, if you dont remember don't worry you didn't miss anything. He changed it back cause they bitched so much. And how everyone bitched when Toshiya cut his hair. And the only reason Kyo has the abs he has now (if you look back he wasn't ripped at all) was cause fans said he was getting fat.
Riyko
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- 28 Nov 2005
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Dir en grey lost ALOT of fans in Japan after they released Vulgar because their music style was alot different from the previous albums and the fans didn't want them to change their style of music, but they also gained alot of new fans with the release of Vulgar.
About what your friend said about Dir en grey not being popular over in Japan, When I went to japan earlier this year all of their concerts we're sold out and you couldn't find any of their cd's, dvd's or things like that in stores because the we're all out of them. They might not be as popular in the smaller area's of Japan, but in the big area's their well known mainly by school kids.
About what your friend said about Dir en grey not being popular over in Japan, When I went to japan earlier this year all of their concerts we're sold out and you couldn't find any of their cd's, dvd's or things like that in stores because the we're all out of them. They might not be as popular in the smaller area's of Japan, but in the big area's their well known mainly by school kids.
Placebo
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- 6 Dec 2005
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I got this off of wikipidea.com
"Their latest album is Withering to death. and the support tour is called It withers and withers. Separately of Withering to death's promotion, Dir en grey visited Germany and France to perform at Rock im Park and Rock am Ring on May 28th, June 3rd, and June 4th 2005.
On September 21, 2005, Dir en grey released a new single, CLEVER SLEAZOID, which also contains three live songs from the album "Withering to death," which was released in 2005.
It is worth noting that Dir en grey also played a live by themselves in Berlin in May 2005, selling out 3,500 tickets to Columbia Hall in 3 days.
After 'Clever Sleazoid' was released, it made it's way to #15 on the Official Finnish Single Chart. Withering to Death made its way to #31 on the Official Finnish Album Chart, TOP40. Note that this was the second time Dir en grey appears on a non-Asian chart, the first time being the WTD-album at #31."
Kind of amazing for an unknown band that has little fans dont you think?
"Their latest album is Withering to death. and the support tour is called It withers and withers. Separately of Withering to death's promotion, Dir en grey visited Germany and France to perform at Rock im Park and Rock am Ring on May 28th, June 3rd, and June 4th 2005.
On September 21, 2005, Dir en grey released a new single, CLEVER SLEAZOID, which also contains three live songs from the album "Withering to death," which was released in 2005.
It is worth noting that Dir en grey also played a live by themselves in Berlin in May 2005, selling out 3,500 tickets to Columbia Hall in 3 days.
After 'Clever Sleazoid' was released, it made it's way to #15 on the Official Finnish Single Chart. Withering to Death made its way to #31 on the Official Finnish Album Chart, TOP40. Note that this was the second time Dir en grey appears on a non-Asian chart, the first time being the WTD-album at #31."
Kind of amazing for an unknown band that has little fans dont you think?
hebiichigo
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- 7 Feb 2005
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It's not that Dir en grey have little fans, but they are not well known in the mainstream. Even if their CDs reach high positions on the charts. The majority of people I've asked about them, have either not known them at all, or said they have heard of them but don't know much about them.
The exception I guess is actual fans of Visual Kei. The ones I've met.. know Dir en grey. Visual Kei is not considered "normal", I think most people don't like it, think it's stupid, and not cool, etc.. So they don't know the bands, of course (even if Dir aren't considered 'visual' anymore... I still get "oh, Dir en grey.. they are a Visual Kei band"..) And it's true many fans stopped liking Dir when they "changed".. But I think they've gained more fans who like them for what they do now.
I don't worry about how many other people like something or know about this or that.. Just like what you like!
The exception I guess is actual fans of Visual Kei. The ones I've met.. know Dir en grey. Visual Kei is not considered "normal", I think most people don't like it, think it's stupid, and not cool, etc.. So they don't know the bands, of course (even if Dir aren't considered 'visual' anymore... I still get "oh, Dir en grey.. they are a Visual Kei band"..) And it's true many fans stopped liking Dir when they "changed".. But I think they've gained more fans who like them for what they do now.
I don't worry about how many other people like something or know about this or that.. Just like what you like!
Placebo
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- 6 Dec 2005
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I have not heard all of DEG since im a new fan I have only seen some PVs. I have alot of catching up to do!
They are really good live as well. I love when they do mushi live. When I first saw it I thought kyo was seriously crying and hurt. I felt so sad and hell I was about to cry. I have never seen a band perform a song like that.
They are really good live as well. I love when they do mushi live. When I first saw it I thought kyo was seriously crying and hurt. I felt so sad and hell I was about to cry. I have never seen a band perform a song like that.
it's more like the sayin...you gain some, you lose some...well, dir en grey have gain my love for them even more when they changed...i mean i love them how they used to be but i love them even more now cause they are, from my point of view, being what they want to be.
it's very hard to change and well, they did. therefore they are hella strong. not a lot of people are willing to change when society is right behind them.
it's very hard to change and well, they did. therefore they are hella strong. not a lot of people are willing to change when society is right behind them.
Nana007
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- 10 Nov 2005
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There is a time in every mans life when he gets tired of PVC, Bondage Gear, Dresses, and Make Up. And as much as I loved my Diru wearing the following, alas they have outgrown such things. But I will always have my memories, pictures, and PV's. Everyone lets have a moment of silence for the loss of visual diru...
Okay moment of silence up I love their new look and their new sound. I think most fans are stuck in the cage era. And while I absolutely love Cage, you have to move on everything and everybody evolves, and it is only natural that Dir En Gray move on. Each album had a different sound. But if you go back and listen you can see that the change in their sound wasn't as sudden as most people say it was. Most people are like Boom Overnight Dir en Grey changed. But I say it was very gradual. I mean if you take the time and listen you hear it.
And I love what they are doing now. I think that it is just awesome.
Okay moment of silence up I love their new look and their new sound. I think most fans are stuck in the cage era. And while I absolutely love Cage, you have to move on everything and everybody evolves, and it is only natural that Dir En Gray move on. Each album had a different sound. But if you go back and listen you can see that the change in their sound wasn't as sudden as most people say it was. Most people are like Boom Overnight Dir en Grey changed. But I say it was very gradual. I mean if you take the time and listen you hear it.
And I love what they are doing now. I think that it is just awesome.
Riyko
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- 28 Nov 2005
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Something else alot of people don't realize about Dir en grey is the older they we're getting the more they matured with their music. No one's music will never stay the same because without changes music will get boring after a while. I love all of their music from the beginning to now because they have so many different and unique styles to all of their songs, it's not something you hear alot in music.
![Diru [Ando Daisuke]](/data/avatars/s/16/16666.jpg?1412559903){kind=avatar}
