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Comfort Women What do you think?

Which side do you believe regarding the "Comfort Women" issue?


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That's not true.

Elizabeth, this is the only part of Pipokuns statement that I agree with, (The rest however is once again well.........) I know that they teach more than just;

They didn't teach the kids at that time what really happened, only about the two A-Bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

When you say "at that time", what time are you refering to? There were no textbooks dealing with WWII in Japan until well into the late 1950's if what I am told is correct. Plus the atrocities committed by the Japanese Imperial Army were hidden from public record for many years after that as well. This issue while known about earlier, by the women themselves of course, only came up in the late 1980's

The devastation that the Okinawan people suffered at the hands of both the Japanese and Americans is well documented and taught in schools not only now but in the past as well. Well at least here it is.


I agree with you here Elizabeth and this is where the problems stem from, it has been noted on a number of occasions here about the destruction of records, so there is no "proof" other than eyewitness accounts.


Well said, and I think you will agree with me that this is the world over as well, not just Japan.

But alas, there were also war criminals and war crimes! There were thousand of young women and young girls who were no prostitutes at all, but misused by the Japanese army overseas. That should be admitted and then we can all shake hands.

Finally this is a fact as well, but when will the day come that Japan finally acknowledges this? I have my doubts, hence I fear that future generations of Japanese children will live in ignorance and continually wonder why neighboring countries mistrust and "hate" them because of their past.
 
about Unit 731.
there is a propaganda pic that they said japan did..
Here is a korean museum propagande pic.
http://koreaphoto.hp.infoseek.co.jp/image/731_6.jpg
herer is chinese one
http://park6.wakwak.com/~photo/image/731_1.jpg
those pics are incident of ツ催鞘?愿ャナス窶毒陳渉(seinan)in 1928 on japanese Shimpo journal
these victims were Japanese lady and civilian.
why do they use these one as a propaganda.
and foreigner believe them like a fool.

there are prejudice and victory rule that japan was an evil
and their excuse is they were worse than ours

 
why do they use these one as a propaganda.
and foreigner believe them like a fool.

Caster making accusations or calling foreigners fools is not a great way to get your point across.

What is your goal here? What point are you attempting to make?

Also now who is the one putting propaganda here?
 
What is your goal here? What point are you attempting to make?
it is not about me.here...LOL
here is not religion things that want to belive
just try and bring a objective evidence.
 
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this is an original of Report No. 49: Japanese Prisoners of War Interrogation on Prostitution: La Segunda Guerra Mundial


Original
 
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Origina is correct one.
I think that was written by nikkei soldiers
 
so, a spanish knows anout it well?
it is a good information
Time will tell, and to be honest with you I have a hard time on occasion "trusting" your sources of information.

However I give you credit for finding them.
 
Time will tell, and to be honest with you I have a hard time on occasion "trusting" your sources of information.
why?
because Japanese is evil and inferior?
Oh poor man!!
are you chinese or Korean agent.
Your nature has revealed itself.
if so ,I consent it
 
why?
because Japanese is evil and inferior?
Oh poor man!!
are you chinese or Korean agent.
Your nature has revealed itself.
if so ,I consent it

Caster whatever, this gets tiring on occasion and this is one of those occasions.....:smoke: :gulp: :smoke: :gulp: later.
 

The document is not nothing new at all.
I told you before that you could even find the victor's documents in the AWF.

http://www.awf.or.jp/program/index.html

As I said before, the 5th volume contains lots of the victor's documents in English.
 
The document is not nothing new at all.
I told you before that you could even find the victor's documents in the AWF.
http://www.awf.or.jp/program/index.html
As I said before, the 5th volume contains lots of the victor's documents in English.
Does it justify the actions of the Japanese Government at the time?

Can you honestly tell us here that the Japanese Government is without guilt in regards to this issue?
 
Does it justify the actions of the Japanese Government at the time?
Can you honestly tell us here that the Japanese Government is without guilt in regards to this issue?
Nobody justifies it at all. It is only the activist who claims Japan did nothing.

Do you think the activist is fair who forced the victim not to take the compensation and keep agitating Japan did nothing?
 
Nobody justifies it at all. It is only the activist who claims Japan did nothing.


Before I answer this please remember one thing...when you ask a question I do my best to answer it or respond to it, I would appreciate you and others doing the same.


I haven't heard anyone say that Japan has done "nothing", I think the problem is that Japan hasn't done enough.
 
The war was over 60 years ago.

There was a war crimes tribunal, which is well completed.

Japan has made agreements with many of the countries in question.

It's time to move beyond the past and focus on the present and future.

Just my opinion.
 
The war was over 60 years ago....

It's time to move beyond the past and focus on the present and future.
Just my opinion.

I agree with you, however one of the problems is how to present and teach the future generations of children in this region what happened.

The governments' intentions on rewriting history is an issue today. Until an acceptable solution is found there will be no satisfactory closure to this episode from Japanese history.
 
Can you honestly tell us here that the Japanese Government is without guilt in regards to this issue?

It has been settled for ages, so I don't know why we have to be with guilt now.
I answered your question.

Is Korea fair?

Disclosed diplomatic documents

At that time when mysteriously the issue broke out 40 years after the war, or even now, the stablity in the Korean Peninsula was/is more important than mere Japan-bashing there. Therefore, Japan did something unnecessary, the private fund stuff.
The nobel prize winner Kim was great to say Korea would never play the history card in the '90. But even for him, he could not disclassify the diplomatic documents that clearly mentioned Japan did compensate, even suggested she should compensate the victim on private basis, but unfortunately Korea declined the Japan's offer and invested the money for their growth.

Onto rewriting history...
Again, look at the documents in the AWF. Japan does not hide anything at all. You can even find documents in which a soldier killed a women out of jealousy, (they were engaged, but I suppose he did not have any understanding on her job, even after they met each other at a brothel), and of course, he was persecuted in the due process, or women got married soldiers even in the turbulent time.
 

Ok then why does the current PM say differently?
 
Before I answer this please remember one thing...when you ask a question I do my best to answer it or respond to it, I would appreciate you and others doing the same.

Is Korea fair?

why does the current PM say differently?
Nobody denys or justifies the military brothel.

It was really unfortunate for women that the activist does not care about them. All they are doing is just to politicise the issue. Just look at the issues between Japan and Korea;
the territorial dispute (Japan peacefully suggests we should solve the issue at the Hague), the name dispute on the sea (it is just a name, no Japanese think the sea belongs to Japan), etc...
 
Interesting. . . Really interesting. I don't know how to use the multiple quote function, and I'm too ready for bed now to worry about doing all the manual work, so. . . please forgive me.

I rather liked the presentation given by Guinea Pig there.

I agree with you, however one of the problems is how to present and teach the future generations of children in this region what happened.


The way to teach the future generations of children all over the world, here, there and everywhere, would be for one, to teach that war is a crime ! It always has been, and always will be. That's all that needs be done. The detailed arguments of what did or may have happened due to any war mentality are not so powerful when arguing blame. They are powerful when pointing to the thought of human suffering.

For our great grand children's great grand children's world, we should strive to strengthen the value of human in-group bonding. The in-group is the total of humankind--period. War is a crime, and we can only expect crime out of it.
 
I agree with you here yet unfortunately I dont think it will ever happen, there just seems to be something within human nature that makes man want to go out and conquer one another.


@pipokun


Is Korea fair?

I answered your questions about Korea.
 
I agree with Mars Man: We should strive towards making the next generations more peacefull. Actually, both canibalism, incest and peadophelia used to be part of our nature when we were more primitive primates. However, because of what sets us apart from animals (who are 100% nature), we have culture. As we have progressed through cultural evolution we are able to rise above the previous levels. I believe that we are as a species basically social, and now that we are increasing able to interact and communicate across countries and continents, the next step in our evolution could be to make war taboo. It might take some time to arrive at that goal - but: why not try?
 
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