1階, 2階 / どうすか / どうなさいますか... / 小さくても...

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Hello,


1. An estate agent is describing an apartment:

新築だし、1階はコンビニで便利だし、2階で南向きだし、いいと思いますよ。

Is this saying that the apartment itself is on the floor above ground level, and is south facing, and that there is a convenience store at ground level of the same building?


2. Is どうすか a valid shortening of どうですか? I thought at first it was a typo, but in the audio it also sounds like どうすか.


3. An estate agent has just been showing a client around an apartment:

不動産屋: どうなさいますか。
足立: そうですね。じゃあ、お願いします。
不動産屋: はい。
足立: で、あの~、手付け金は。
不動産屋: いや、あの、いくらでもいいすけど、まあ、2万ぐらいで。
足立: はい、わかりました。

My translation:

Estate agent: How about it? [i.e. Would you like to take the apartment?]
Adachi: Hmm, well, yes, thanks, I'll take it.
Estate agent: Right.
Adachi: Um ... what about the deposit?
Estate agent: Well ... any amount will be OK ... um ... it's about 20,000 (yen).
Adachi: OK, I understand.

a) Is this OK? Amongst other things that may be wrong, it seems odd to me that an estate agent would say "any amount will do". Also I am not clear if いや in the penultimate line means "well..." or "no". At first I thought the last two lines meant "Is any deposit required?" / "No ... (um) ... [then estate agent changes his mind]."

b) I assume いくらでもいいすけど is short for いくらでもいいですけど, so is this a general rule that です can be shortened to す wherever it occurs?


4. Talking about an apartment:

小さくても、テラスかバルコニーがあればもっといいですが、あまり贅沢は言えませんね。

My translation: "A terrace or balcony would be better, even if it's small, but (we) can't talk of (i.e. can't consider/ can't countenance) anything too luxurious."

a) Is this OK, especially the last part?

b) Is 小さくても likely to refer to the terrace/balcony or to the apartment? (There are no obvious other indicators from context.)
 
1)
The room where the estate agent is recommending to the client is on 2階.

2)
Yes. It's rather colloquial expression.

3) a)
Yes, your translation is perfect. As for 手付け金は, indeed it can mean "Is any deposit required?" depending on the context.

b)
Right. It's also often written っす, as in いいっすよ(=いいですよ).

4) a)
贅沢を言う is a set phrase, meaning "to ask/expect too much".

b)
The former. I would say 部屋が小さくなっても、テラスかバルコニーがあるほうがもっといいですが for the latter case.
 
Thanks.

Is 1階 the floor at ground level? In other words, when you walk into a building from the street you are at 1階?

(This may seem like a daft question, but in the UK the "first floor" is actually one floor above ground level, which is part of why I was getting confused.)
 
Yes, it is. I've learned in junior high school that what "the first floor" means is different between in the UK and in the USA. That's why I wrote 2階 instead of "the second floor". ;)
 
ground floor = 1階
1 floor = 2階
2nd floor = 3階
etc... ? am i right about this..? btw how do u read this "階" word
 
ground floor = 1階
1 floor = 2階
2nd floor = 3階
etc... ? am i right about this..?
Yes in the UK, but no in the US. The first floor means 一階, i.e., the ground-level floor in the US.

btw how do u read this "階" word
That's "kai", except 3階[sangai]. Although some people read this "sankai".

While kai 回 (occurrences) and sen 銭 (0.01 yen, now rarely used) follow the euphonic changes listed above, homophones kai 階 (storeys/floors) and sen 千 (1000) are slightly different as shown below, although these differences are not followed by all speakers. Thus 三階 ("third floor") can be read either sankai or sangai, while 三回 ("three times") can only be read sankai.

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