角から vs 交差点から

Lomaster · 22 Jun 2017

I was confused by an explanatory picture in a textbook today. It looks like this
My questions are:
1) Is 角から３軒目 the same as 交差点から４軒目?
2) If the assumption above is correct, then how does one call a 交差点から１軒目 using 角?

Mike Cash · 22 Jun 2017

It's the same house either way. Third from the corner or third from the intersection.

The explanatory note on the right should clarify it.

Lomaster · 22 Jun 2017

Then it was the picture as a whole that confused me. I imagined the white birdie believing his loved one is in the third house from the intersection, and also misread "入れて" as "除いて".

By the way, how do i say "skipping/not counting''? 角の家を除いて or perhaps 角の家を抜かして?

Mike Cash · 22 Jun 2017

A closer look at the picture instead of just going by your question reveals that the black bird is correcting the white bird's mistaken counting method. The white bird means 4軒目 but isn't counting the first house.

To exempt something: xxx を数えないで yyy or something like xxx だけを数えて yyy

Lomaster · 22 Jun 2017

I must have overthinked the picture a bit initially. The way i saw it was the white bird had been given directions to his crush's home as "角から３軒目" and he is about to pay a visit to the third house from the corner, while his more fluent friend explains that "角から３軒目" is actually the fourth house.

Toritoribe · 22 Jun 2017

Lomaster said:
his more fluent friend explains that "角から３軒目" is actually the fourth house.

No, 角から３軒目 refers to the third house from the corner, thus, it's the house where the smoking black bird is in in the picture.

Mike Cash · 22 Jun 2017

Toritoribe said:
No, 角から３軒目 refers to the third house from the corner, thus, it's the house where the smoking black bird is in in the picture.

...and why the other black bird is pointing out the error in counting, as the sweetheart is obviously the cute white bird with a ribbon in the fourth house.

No?

Toritoribe · 22 Jun 2017

I don't know about the story, but anyway the house of the white bird with a ribbon is 角から４軒目, not ３軒目. I believe the correction the white bird (with no ribbon) got is that it should be 角から４軒目.

Lomaster · 22 Jun 2017

Thank you Mike, thank you Toritoribe.
I guess not counting the first house on the corner wouldn't make sense in any language.

Mike Cash · 22 Jun 2017

Lomaster said:
Thank you Mike, thank you Toritoribe.
I guess not counting the first house on the corner wouldn't make sense in any language.

I think we have all probably known someone who does it that way anyway.

Lomaster · 22 Jun 2017

Mike Cash said:
I think we have all probably known someone who does it that way anyway.

Must be the reason for that birdie sketch being printed in the textbook.

角から vs 交差点から

Lomaster

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Mike Cash

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Lomaster

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Mike Cash

骨も命も皆此の土地に埋めよう

Lomaster

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Toritoribe

松葉解禁

Mike Cash

骨も命も皆此の土地に埋めよう

Toritoribe

松葉解禁

Lomaster

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Mike Cash

骨も命も皆此の土地に埋めよう

Lomaster

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