We are either feeding the world's greatest troll or we have descended into mocking someone who is genuinely mentally challenged...
I'm no troll but I do have aspurgers.
@The OP, I ask you as a moderator to begin a blog and post the ones regarding your making "script" such like
this one there.
Here's the blog section.
Author Blogs | Japan Forum
I'll try the next time I update the upload
Personally, I hope you still remember your previous statement
I'll just come back after I have bought and received the genki book in
this post...
Plans do change but as I will probably spend quite some time on filling the database and breaking down the examples (I still need that long one btw) it will probably be the case that I will have bought and recieved the book by the time I next update the upload.
Did you look at that ridiculous and useless thing he created?
It's not useless for people like me who find too much detail without decent examples to be useless.
I mean, learning all the ways to use a verb is a better plan than anything else that zxuiji has suggested this far.
However, learning *every* way that 食べる can be used only covers ichidan verbs, and completely ignore godan verbs, and suru verbs. Oh, and a couple irregular verbs
I didn't realise I was missing some, I thought I was getting them all by using the "go" verb set as well. Thanks anyway
Asking us to write out sentences for all the basic uses of every kind of verb and explanations of how and why is...
Not looking for you to say the how and why, I just need the table to have the english and japanese side by side so I can then build my own sentences using those examples, the exaplanations I search for myself and link the document to
Which brings us back to just get a textbook.
Got the bookmark on my toolbar, just waiting for payday.
Every iteration of 'improvement' in the learning plan is just bringing it closer to a textbook course
Will never go that far, closer to a dumbed down reference with links to the detailed ones
There are already at least two people that have basically web text books (tae kim and imabi), and a slew of printed textbooks.
imabi is a new name to me, I'll look him/her up, thanks.
There are also already multiple good flashcard programs that use SRS programs, there's no need to write your own scripts to review a fixed set of sentences. I know zxuiji is already using memrise, but apparently it's too much trouble to learn how to create a custom lesson in memrise... but not too much trouble to write a custom program? ... I don't even know.
memrise is good for memorisation because it keeps switching between text input, flashcards and audio testing but when it comes to learning to build a sentence correctly there is simply to much switching around hence the need for a specialised script, if I eventually fill the database with everything from alice in wonderland then at that point it would be very difficult to simply remember the sentences and instead force one to build the sentence using the transferable elements they've identified, that is my goal with this script.
I mean, there is value in drilling every conjugated form of an ichidan verb, but I don't know why you wouldn't use already existing platforms to create your drills. Even doing so with just a single ichidan verb isn't terrible, because if you can recall the one than you can conjugate any other ichidan verb.
That's not to say the plan as proposed makes sense... it doesn't make sense to drill every grammatical construct a single ichidan verb can appear in before learning the other forms of verbs or the other principles of grammar used in those constructs.
Well, at least the current path involves actually learning some Japanese instead of spinning wheels, even if it's an awfully lopsided and awkward path.
This script isn't meant for drilling conjugation, that is merely a side action in the process of identifing if user input is wrong or only partly right. Here's roughly an example of what the out put will look like:
Correct version: He
was eat
ing right
Your version: He
has eat
en right
The basic idea of the script is to point out where the differences occured and nothing else, the user would then have to check what they need to work on and whether they are identifying where the elements go correctly, that is also the reason I want an example table with each usage of verb type.
As far as the godan and suru verbs go if you could give me a couple of examples using past tense I should be able to infer the rest with the help of the ichidan verbs and some searching of the tae kim guide and wikipedia
