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[OoTmaster]

When I learned 方 I think that is the correct kanji. Anyways when I learned that I was told a more literal translation might be "side". For example. この方はperson's nameです。 This side person's name is. But can it only be used for people? Or is it more like a little side? Like on this side we have this on the other side we have this. Just curious. ^-^

 

[Kofy Determan]

@LloydVincent
thank you for the clarification .

今は is for right now ?

a last translation about this subject please, to say :

sorry but, leave me alone.

 

[OoTmaster]

今 is for now. The は is a particle used for directing a sentence.

 

[LloydVincent]

@Kofy: Yes, 今は could be translated as "right now" or "for now" or (super-literally) "as for now,"

"sorry but leave me alone" -> すみませんが、放っておいてください。 (sumimasen ga, houtteoitekudasai)

However, I think it would be better to say すみませんが、放っておいてほしいんだ。 (sumimasen ga, houtteoite hoshii nda)
It's less direct because it's a statement of your desire to be left alone, as opposed to giving a command.

 

[Kofy Determan]

@OoTmaster and @LloydVincent

many tanks

(edit , oups), すみませんが、放っておいてください。 is like
sorry, leave me alone please

is there something like sorry but, ... ?

(edit , oups once more) answer to myself すみませんが、= sorry but

 

[Toritoribe]

The polite form すみませんが doesn't fit to the casual form 放っておいてほしいんだ well. I would say 悪いけど/すまないけど/申し訳ないけど、ほっといてくれないか.

When I learned 方 I think that is the correct kanji. Anyways when I learned that I was told a more literal translation might be "side". For example. この方はperson's nameです。 This side person's name is. But can it only be used for people? Or is it more like a little side? Like on this side we have this on the other side we have this. Just curious. ^-^

Basically, 方[かた] is for people, whereas 方[ほう] is for direction/side. Indeed かた originally, and still today, refers to direction/side, and かた as a polite way of referring to a person is derived from the original meaning, but it doesn't imply "direction" anymore.

 

[OoTmaster]

Thanks Toritoribe. That really helped clear things up for me.

 

[Elizabeth]

The polite form すみませんが doesn't fit to the casual form 放っておいてほしいんだ well. I would say 悪いけど/すまないけど/申し訳ないけど、ほっといてくれないか.

ほっといてくれないか. without the formalities has got a "for God's SAKE, Just Leave Me Alone" stalker ex (crazy ex-boyfriend) who follows you everywhere and refuses to allow closure in the relationship tone...

 

[Toritoribe]

Ex-GIRL friend, unless he is a gay, since the speaker of ほっといてくれないか is a male. And I would NEVER say 悪いけど/すまないけど/申し訳ないけど for a stalker...
Anyway, LloydVincent-san explained correctly in his reply, even ほっとけ can work perfectly fine if it's said in an appropriate way for an appropriate situation.

 

[Mike Cash]

What ever happened to plain old あっち行け ?

 

[Elizabeth]

Ex-GIRL friend, unless he is a gay, since the speaker of ほっといてくれないか is a male. And I would NEVER say 悪いけど/すまないけど/申し訳ないけど for a stalker...

I was thinking of a rather angry and bossy woman (depending on many different kinds of intonation). Is もう、放っておいてくれ also acceptable in a variety of informal situations for men ? But no of course not in combination with 悪いけど/すまないけど/申し訳ないけど that makes it sound indirect and humble.

 

[Toritoribe]

What you are referring to seems like ほっといてくれる？ ほっといてくれないか and ほっといてくれ are both male wordings.

 

[Kofy Determan]

What ever happened to plain old あっち行け ?

I'll keep that in mind.

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I'm a little bit lost ...

So, an example > when I'm in a bad mood or I'm doing work that requires concentration, I would say to some persons :
"Sorry but, leave me alone please !"
(polite but with firmness)

May I say : すみませんが、放っておいてください anyway ?
(i like the sorry but ...)

 

[Toritoribe]

Yes, it works. I would say 申し訳ありませんが邪魔しないでください。 for the latter case, though.

 

[Kofy Determan]

Yes, it works. I would say 申し訳ありませんが邪魔しないでください。 for the latter case, though.

Sorry, don't disturb please .

Thank you Toritoribe

 

[Rei Yahya]

I have a quick question. How would I say something like, 'I did my homework for Japanese class.'? It's the FOR part of the sentence I find tricky. I would think 日本語の授業のために宿題をしました。But I feel like I'm still off.

 

[LloydVincent]

I have a quick question. How would I say something like, 'I did my homework for Japanese class.'? It's the FOR part of the sentence I find tricky. I would think 日本語の授業のために宿題をしました。But I feel like I'm still off.

Think of what you mean when you say "I did X for Y". Typically, this would be equivalent to something like "I did X in order to help or positively affect Y." In other words, you'd be saying that your completed homework somehow benefits the class as a whole, which is strange. (and that's the impression your Japanese sentence gives)

It's not that your translation is wrong, it's just that Japanese is more strict about meaning of "for" in this case.

I'd say just translate "homework for Japanese class" as 日本語の（授業の）宿題 (I parenthesized 授業の because I think it sounds more natural to leave it out)

 

[Mike Cash]

I have a quick question. How would I say something like, 'I did my homework for Japanese class.'? It's the FOR part of the sentence I find tricky. I would think 日本語の授業のために宿題をしました。But I feel like I'm still off.

Since your Japanese class doesn't benefit from your having done the homework, that wouldn't be appropriate. If you think about it, there are two ways to take the meaning of "for" in that sentence. The other way to think about it is as sort of possessive in a way: the homework which belongs to, comes from, or is otherwise associated with your Japanese class. That being the case, all you need to do is leave out のために and your sentence is fine, although as Lloyd correctly points out, it could be shortened even further as "homework" is obviously from a class. The presence of the word "homework" negates the need for mentioning class.

 

[Rei Yahya]

Thank you so much! I understand better now. Is it almost always certain that the 'for' of 'tame' is a positive effect? Like 母のためにスープを作りました。I made soup for my mother.

 

[Mike Cash]

Thank you so much! I understand better now. Is it almost always certain that the 'for' of 'tame' is a positive effect? Like 母のためにスープを作りました。I made soup for my mother.

I would have to say that is the case. Consider that ため is also used in the expressions ためになる and ためにならない.

 

[Rei Yahya]

Thanks a bunch!

Also, I'm bound and determined to translate a Japanese box for ニンテンドーパズルコレクション.

ニンテンドーゲームキューブＧＢＡケーブルでゲームボーイアドバンスでも遊べる！ With the Nintendo Gamecube GBA cable, [you] can play with Gameboy Advance too! (or '[you]' can play even with Gameboy Advance)

ジョイキャリーしょう! No idea. 'Joy carry'?

ゲームボーイアドバンスにゲームをダウンロードして、持ち歩いて遊べる「ジョイキャリー」ができる！ダウンロード用の３つのゲームを楽しもう！！Downloading a game from a gameboy advance, you can carry and play 'joy carry'! Enjoy with three people!

Yea my translation is definitely full of holes.

 

[Mike Cash]

Look again real hard at the part where you got "three people" out of it.

 

[Elizabeth]

What you are referring to seems like ほっといてくれる？ ほっといてくれないか and ほっといてくれ are both male wordings.

I have no idea really whether ～ないか is ever used by women speakers (particularly young women), but didn't it somehow originally belong to female language 「～だよ、～じゃないか」（本来女性言葉） ? ほっといてください alone is I think for sure 乱暴 whether done by either sex.

 

[Mike Cash]

There's nothing particularly 乱暴 about anything phrased with ～て下さい

 

[Rei Yahya]

Look again real hard at the part where you got "three people" out of it.

Oh, well that was terribly silly of me. 'Mittsu' being the general counter for 3. Doi.