Need a word or phrase translated?

[Wanderer]

Hello...
I was trying to understand one sentence. In Aikawa Nanase's song "Second Wind" first verse is:

Narekitta kuuki sore nari ni igokochi warukunai futari
なれきった空気それなりに居心地悪くない二人

I can't understand this sentence at all. There is a translation in the net, and it says:

"The familiar atmosphere makes us feel at home"

But I can't understand why this sentence has such meaning. Especially this word "narekitta". What is this? I can't find anything similar in dictionaries I use, and I think these are good dictionaries . The same is with "igokochi"... Nothing in dictionaries... :/
Anyway. Is there someone who could explain me the whole sentence word by word? I'd be grateful

 

[Elizabeth]

Hello...
I was trying to understand one sentence. In Aikawa Nanase's song "Second Wind" first verse is:
Narekitta kuuki sore nari ni igokochi warukunai futari
なれきった空気それなりに居心地悪くない二人
I can't understand this sentence at all. There is a translation in the net, and it says:
"The familiar atmosphere makes us feel at home"
But I can't understand why this sentence has such meaning. Especially this word "narekitta". What is this? I can't find anything similar in dictionaries I use, and I think these are good dictionaries . The same is with "igokochi"... Nothing in dictionaries... :/
Anyway. Is there someone who could explain me the whole sentence word by word? I'd be grateful

なれきった means became completely familiar with
いごこち = cozy or comfortable

Try looking up the rest yourself first.

 

[Wanderer]

Ok thanks, Elizabeth. It looks more clear for me now. Could you tell me one more thing? What means this phrase "sore nari ni".

Thanks

 

[Trapt]

Thanks for the help, Elisabeth. It would be [Insert-name-here]-pu, would it not? Freedict's translation of "video game" is "bideoke-mu".

 

[Elizabeth]

Thanks for the help, Elisabeth. It would be [Insert-name-here]-pu, would it not? Freedict's translation of "video game" is "bideoke-mu".

No, it is the name of the company + guru-pu. Like Va-jin guru-pu.

And bideoke-mu is bideo ge-mu ("video game," get it ? ).

Ok thanks, Elizabeth. It looks more clear for me now. Could you tell me one more thing? What means this phrase "sore nari ni".

"In itself" or "in its own way."

 

[Trapt]

Yes. Thanks again, Elisabeth

 

[ruth~route]

Do I say Sumimasen/Gomen too when I'm in a crowd and needs people to give way to me?

 

[K-Young]

なれきった空気それなりに居心地悪くない二人

I would translate it like this.

The two are tired of the place, though they have found some good points of being there.


それなりに is like, "you can get what it is worth, or can find something good however bad it may be."

 

[ハダカ]

How should I translate いいくせよ or ゆきせよ? If I could handle it myself...

 

[Buntaro]

ruth~route,

Say sumimasen when you want to squeeze through a line of people. If you really cause them trouble (like you cause them to drop something) then you say gomen nasai.

 

[augne]

hello...

just wondering, what does "kanaiyo" mean..? like in "meil kanaiyo..."

and how do you say "weird/strange" in japanese? like um... "its weird how i always think about you" or "something seems strange when i met him this morning"
i know "henna" is weird. but can you use it for other than a person?
"henna gaijin" "henna no ona"... like its always people related...

thanks so much in advance!!

 

[ruth~route]

oh. thx Buntaro

^^

 

[Elizabeth]

oh. thx Buntaro
^^

Normally you don't say anything squashed amongst a crowd. Just reaching around one person I would use "shitsurei (shimasu)."

 

[Buntaro]

augne,

I do not know the word "kanaiyo."

If something or someone was strange or wierd, I would say, "Okashii desu ne...."

"its weird how i always think about you"

--> Watashi wa anata no koto o, itsumo kangaete imasu yo. Okashii desu ne.... (How romantic!)

 

[Charles Barkley]

へんな is fine to use for things aside from people. 変わった or 変わっている （かわった、かわっている） would also be a good choice. As would おかしい.

 

[Elizabeth]

へんな is fine to use for things aside from people.

just wondering, what does "kanaiyo" mean..? like in "meil kanaiyo..."

Like what ?? "Kanaiyo" could be a typo but "meil" is not close to being Japanese.

and how do you say "weird/strange" in japanese? like um... "its weird how i always think about you" or "something seems strange when i met him this morning"
i know "henna" is weird. but can you use it for other than a person?
"henna gaijin" "henna no ona"... like its always people related...

thanks so much in advance!!

Henna onna ??


おかしい is translated more broadly into funny, odd, wrong, unusual, ridiculous, etc. If anything, perhaps a bit lighter sounding in the right context than 変な、変わっている。

 

[ruth~route]

Normally you don't say anything squashed amongst a crowd. Just reaching around one person I would use "shitsurei (shimasu)."

wat does shitsurei means? is it e removal of the -masu for shimasu and replace with -tsurei?

 

[undrentide]

wat does shitsurei means? is it e removal of the -masu for shimasu and replace with -tsurei?

No, "shitsurei" is a noun, and literal translation is "rudeness"; we say "shitsurei shimasu" which means "excuse me (for being rude)".
One often say (especially males) says "shitsurei" which is short for "shitsurei shimasu".

You can also use "sumimasen" which can stands for both "excuse me" or "I'm sorry". (And sometimes "thank you" as well, it came from the sense of "sorry for troubling you to do me a favour". )

 

[Charles Barkley]

augne,
I do not know the word "kanaiyo."
If something or someone was strange or wierd, I would say, "Okashii desu ne...."
"its weird how i always think about you"
--> Watashi wa anata no koto o, itsumo kangaete imasu yo. Okashii desu ne.... (How romantic!)

I have not dated anyone in Japanese, so I could hardly be called an expert on what is or is not romantic, but would this really be a natural thing to say? It sounds a bit おかしい to me, but maybe someone else could weigh in. If one were to say something like what is above and hope for it to be romantic, I imagine something lile 不思議 would stand a better chance...

 

[augne]

Thanks everyone!

and oh ung it's actually "meil konaiyo..." instead of kanaiyo...
I would guess that "meil" here means "mail"..
I cant read kanji, so my Japanese friend always write to me in romaji... i'm very much a beginner in jJ this text he sent me, it was like "nanisiteru? meil konaiyo (-_-)..."

不思議 --> is this fushigi? hmm..

and does "omoisugosu" mean like "thinking too much"..?

Thanks again :

 

[undrentide]

Thanks everyone!

and oh ung it's actually "meil konaiyo..." instead of kanaiyo...
I would guess that "meil" here means "mail"..
I cant read kanji, so my Japanese friend always write to me in romaji... i'm very much a beginner in jJ this text he sent me, it was like "nanisiteru? meil konaiyo (-_-)..."

不思議 --> is this fushigi? hmm..

and does "omoisugosu" mean like "thinking too much"..?

"meeru konaiyo" means mail does not come (= I haven't got emails from you).
konai = negation of kuru (to come), yo is just to add feelings.

Yes,
不思議 is fushigi.

omoisugosu : it is more common to be used in noun form i.e. omoisugoshi.
If someone says "sore wa omoisugoshi", that means "you're imagining things".

 

[Elizabeth]

I have not dated anyone in Japanese, so I could hardly be called an expert on what is or is not romantic, but would this really be a natural thing to say? It sounds a bit おかしい to me, but maybe someone else could weigh in. If one were to say something like what is above and hope for it to be romantic, I imagine something lile 不思議 would stand a better chance...

I personally would not say it to someone, but about him...so this is one take on a really freaky guy.

彼のことをいつも考えているなんて変だね。
彼のことをいつも考えているのは変だね。


And this was the explanation ? Or an entirely different example ?

けさ、彼に会った時に、何か変な（ものを）感じがしたよ....

 

[Buckaroo Banzai]

初めまして、どうぞよりしくお願いいたします。 ここ、登録したところです。
Hello, pleased to meet you. I just registered here.

I have a rather specific question. In my class we were recently talking about the difference between 未来 and 将来, and I was saying how I always hear the latter in reference to people and also sometimes countries but that mirai seems more abstract, because it literally means "has not yet come." Kind of like the difference between future, as in future tense of a verb and future, as in the prospects for a given individual's life. Was I right in my distinction? Or was I way off?

 

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Oh, and on various words meaning sorry....
御免（ごめん）なさい While I have not read anything "official" on this, my interpretation is that it means something like "please let me evade."

And another...going off topic now...有り難うございます (arigatou) literally means "it is hard to exist," which is thought to mean something like it is hard for me to exist (after having been shown such kindness), or perhaps it is hard for me to exist (without thanking you).

 

[chickie]

I have a rather specific question. In my class we were recently talking about the difference between 未来 and 将来, and I was saying how I always hear the latter in reference to people and also sometimes countries but that mirai seems more abstract, because it literally means "has not yet come." Kind of like the difference between future, as in future tense of a verb and future, as in the prospects for a given individual's life. Was I right in my distinction? Or was I way off?

Hello, Buckaroo Baizai-san, I think you're right.
And I think mirai is more distant than shorai, for example, we say Doraemon is "mirai no sekai no neko-gata robot", not "shorai"...Sorry I can't take a good example

Oh, and on various words meaning sorry....
御免（ごめん）なさい While I have not read anything "official" on this, my interpretation is that it means something like "please let me evade."
And another...going off topic now...有り難うございます (arigatou) literally means "it is hard to exist," which is thought to mean something like it is hard for me to exist (after having been shown such kindness), or perhaps it is hard for me to exist (without thanking you).

ごめんなさい is mostly means sorry or excuse me.
有難うございます is, like you said, "it is hard to exist". "It" in this sentence is basically something miraculous or something good happened to you.
And just fiy, the characters in the story set in Edo period often says "有り難き幸せ" when they thank someone who has a higher level position.