As was mentioned above, war is profit and it is the same people who start these wars and sell arms to both sides as has been going on for hundreds of years. America and England are just great at it these days. They create a bogyman (Saddam, Khadaffi, Castro), spread lies (WMD, etc), the press, being on their side, prints and reports it and the gullible public who does no research on their own believes it!
Is it any wonder that all the militaries of the world recruit teenagers? It is because they are the most easily brainwashed and trainable. A 30 year old may be just as physically fit and able, not to mention smarter, but they are wise and mature and thus not as easily brainwashed and can sometimes see through the lies they are being fed. A teenager not so. They will swallow hook, line, and sinker what they are being fed and will go out and fight to the death for these lies. I know because I was one of them and believed everything my "wise and learned" leaders taught me when I was 17 about the evil Vietnamese. Today I know better and that it was all a farce to keep the military industrial complex in full swing. What a fool I was. Which is why I am ineligible for military service because of my age. Not to fight, but even for desk work. They know older people are more wiser.
Today I believe nothing, know they are lying, and have found more proof than not that it was, is, and always will be a lie. War is for profit and nothing else. Nothing!
Would I fight today in Iraq if called or even for desk work? Not on your life. However, I would fight to the death to keep my freedom (what's left of it), my home and family.
karlyboo said:
In my case probably wipe away the whole damn lot and replace it with something resembling the Roman Republic where all state decisions are made by specialist elected assemblies and on majority vote with no central leader/figurehead except in times of crisis when a leader with executive power is voted into office for a fixed six month term and some essential state positions which are shared by a dependency of two individuals, each with power of veto over the other.
Sounds to me like you are speaking of the original American government as the US was really designed as a Constitutional Representative Republic and not a Democracy as many believe and say. A Democracy, in effect, is just mob rule.
America fought a war with England to escape the tyranny of King George and when they defeated the "mother land" they set up a constitution and a Representative Republic to ensure that people could actually live free (as God intended) without fear and never again be ruled by a dictatorship. Today, sadly we have a new dictator with a new King George who, thanks to the Patriot Act, have taken away most of our rights in the name of fighting terrorism (the new bogyman).
That is the main reason why we have the 2nd ammendment granting the citizens the right to keep and bear arms so that a dictatorship and it's military may never again oppose the will of the people. Why do you think that the US is the only country where this is a right? To stop tyranny thats why.
A representative system was set up so that the local citizens could elect a representative from the community to go to Washington to work for them and vote the way they, the people, wanted and believed. The rep would serve a limited short term and then another would be selected. It wasn't ment to be a full time job with a pension and such.
It didn't take long for the elite of England and their offspring to infiltrate the US government and gradually, over the last 200 years, begin to take some of that power back and away from the people so that it is only the wealthy and the elite who now run our government and George Washington et al are probably turning over in their graves at what has become of this country, our constitution and our rights. It is so bad that the Supreme Court will hear in March of this year weather it is actually constitutional for the citizenry to keep and bear arms. If we lose this one we are finished as a country and I'm sure many around the world do hope we lose this all important right.
Read here (Please, no arguments on gun control in this thread)
The elites have succeeded over the past 25-30 years of getting "their people" into the supreme court and we may just lose this one. It is said that the major obstcle to a quicker One World Government is the US constitution and it's 2nd ammendment. And for all those Americans who naively believe that the NRA (National Rifle Association) will protect their rights are sadly misled and mistaken as they are now part of the elite and have made far too many concessions to the elite.
Iron Chef said:
And the funny thing is... a lot of the people who say they wouldn't fight for their country because of so-and-so CAN SAY AND DO SO because of the freedom and liberties they and their generation now enjoy that others in the past have fought to secure for them.
Soon that will be a thing of the past as a new
Executive Order passed in July can now land me in jail or the forfeiture of all my property as a threat to the government for what I have printed here and believe about our "efforts" in Iraq. Reading between the lines, and listening to lawyers on this "vague" EO it is sad but true. It can be considered an
"act threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic and political reform in Iraq..." Freedom of Speech, our First and most basic Ammendment Right, is sadly being taken away from us by King George. Freedom of the Press? That's already gone.
The only bits we'd need to alter would be the inclusion of universal suffrage and the outlawing of slavery.
